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#81
Public Discussion / Re: Help us promote our Kickst...
Last post by frvge - May 28, 2014, 11:11:07 PM
Good idea. I just posted something like it on the FB page.
#82
Public Discussion / Re: Our Kickstarter: discuss i...
Last post by frvge - May 28, 2014, 11:08:15 PM
Up till now, we've got 2 articles and 1 upcoming interview because of them. And tips for the KS page. The effect thusfar isn't what I expected of course...
#83
Public Discussion / Re: Help us promote our Kickst...
Last post by NeoSuperior - May 28, 2014, 07:59:39 PM
You should repost the same thing on facebook. Even though you have a kickstarter running, the FB account was asleep for like 2 days... that is like suicide in such a short 30-day campaign!
#84
Public Discussion / Re: Our Kickstarter: discuss i...
Last post by NeoSuperior - May 28, 2014, 07:57:40 PM
You overestimate the willigness of people to pay for something. That about 10% of the known community are actually willing to donate something, is actually quite a lot. The problem is simply that I don't have a credit card and I want to be careful not to accidently tap into any cost traps from using a prepaid-online-credit-card. I am sure there are a lot of people who got a similar problem and may or may not pay much later or at the last second. I actually forgot that tomorrow is "Ascension of Christ", which means I actually got 1 more free day than I expected to have, so I guess I am lucky enough to deal with this by tomorrow. My point about PS, or rather PS's kickstarter not being well-known enough still stands though. Going by the donations so far I am a bit worried about the size of the community that the size of the donating community and the amount these numbers must reach...

I am glad to see that frvge is calling out to the community to spread the word around. I am still wondering about where that "external PR firm" is right now... because as of yet I saw NOTHING of these people (unless they are the guys who control the facebook account).
#85
Public Discussion / Re: Help us promote our Kickst...
Last post by RaDRoacH - May 28, 2014, 11:00:52 AM
I've already tried to send a news tip to IGN (THEY EVEN HAVE A DEDICATED SECTION FOR THAT HERE http://www.ign.com/support/editorial?category=newstips) but they didn't released anything!

If you can try! Good Luck.


BTW i'm trying to post on their forums.
#86
Public Discussion / Help us promote our Kickstarte...
Last post by frvge - May 28, 2014, 10:48:41 AM
Hi,

There are many gaming forums and communities on the internet. We'd like to get exposure, but I think making a new account for each of them only to post about PS is spammy.
I'd like you to make a post about PS and our Kickstarter if you already happen to have an account on these sites.
If you've done so, please post a link here so I can update the thread. If there are multiple boards/topics where PS would make sense, then multiple topics for PS are fine IMO.

www.reddit.com
www.gameSpot.com
www.ign.com   
www.tigsource.com
www.computerandvideogames.com
www.indiegamer.com 
www.indiedb.com
www.unity3d.com
www.pcgamer.com       
www.rockpapershotgun.com
www.videogamer.com
www.screwattack.com
www.toucharcade.com
www.penny-arcade.com
www.retrogamer.net
www.eurogamer.net
www.polygon.com
www.gameinformer.com
www.destructoid.com
www.giantbomb.com
www.vg247.com

Thanks,

Frank
#87
Public Discussion / Re: Our Kickstarter: discuss i...
Last post by Roberto1223 - May 28, 2014, 04:54:03 AM
Quote from: NeoSuperior on May 27, 2014, 10:53:36 PM
Granted, I didn't donate yet either, but I will still have enough time to do that after my early exams. The point is that PS will never reach its funding goal if most people don't even know of the existence of Project Stealth. And even from the people who know Project Stealth... they may not know that the kickstarter started!


You are contradicting yourself. I said this not to start a flame war or to offend you, but because you implied that you plan on donating to project stealth either way (whether the kick starter fails or not). All I am saying is that nothing good can possibly result from us (long-time PS fans) slacking off and donating at the last minute, and that we lose nothing by acting early. Our attitude towards this kick-stater is manifested in our pledges. The pledge statistics shown on the site, in turn form a sort of collective morale, which will surely influence the newcomers' perception of PS and their subsequent actions (pledge and follow, or forget forever) the second time around a kick-starter is launched.

Of course you can do what ever you want in the end, and we all know that this kick starter may have not been handled the best way possible, but I am saying that our support as a community of PS is important so that this project has a higher chance of succeeding in future attempts if not this one (trying not to be too negative).

For sure, there are at least 780 people who have heard (at least vaguely) about this game (Facebook page likes).
With simple math we can calculate all probabilities and get technical about everything. We won't like what we see, but the ugly truth is not only that, but also the fact that of those 780 people only 70 have pledged due to attitudes such as yours. ("This is irrelevant, that's irrelevant, fix this! Fix that! Bleh bleh bleh!")

The best thing we can do at this point is work hard during this kick-starter to promote it as much as possible so that the second attempt has a higher chance of being successful. If we slack off now and say "oh okay we we'll get it right next time" it will be the same story all over again.

Like I said we need to be more Machiavellian about this; if we want it to succeed, we need to disregard "our" mistakes and do our best to keep this project moving forward even against all probabilities or odds.


Notice, I am not saying "have faith and it will magically happen" or anything superstitious like that. I am saying the more we do now, and the sooner we act, the higher the probability that this project will succeed in a near future. Lets not all just point our fingers at the devs and blame them for everything.

All of us here claim ourselves to be hardcore SCCT fans and all of us have known this project for a very long time and very few of us are actually pledging! Look at the numbers!

Lets stop this hypocrisy and negativity and lets start helping so that this game finally becomes a freaking reality! There is no point in waiting for anything to happen.
#88
Public Discussion / Re: Our Kickstarter: discuss i...
Last post by NeoSuperior - May 28, 2014, 01:40:04 AM
Quote from: Roberto1223 on May 27, 2014, 11:42:15 PM
I see that there is a very poor understanding of how Kickstarter works.

We must emphasize to the people that their money is not taken until the kickstarter ends only if the goal is met.

Neosuperior, you must back PS NOW. Why? Because the more backers there are, the more promising the project looks.

Yes, the progress is slow, and the probability is low, but you have nothing to lose! And, if newcomers get the sense that this will not succeed then they will not bother to back PS.

They must understand that their money will not be taken in the worst case scenario in order to motivate them to donate.

As long as no one knowns about this project, that is irrelevant. That issue must be solved first...
#89
Public Discussion / Re: Our Kickstarter: discuss i...
Last post by Roberto1223 - May 27, 2014, 11:42:15 PM
I see that there is a very poor understanding of how Kickstarter works.

We must emphasize to the people that their money is not taken until the kickstarter ends only if the goal is met.

Neosuperior, you must back PS NOW. Why? Because the more backers there are, the more promising the project looks.

Yes, the progress is slow, and the probability is low, but you have nothing to lose! And, if newcomers get the sense that this will not succeed then they will not bother to back PS.

They must understand that their money will not be taken in the worst case scenario in order to motivate them to donate.
#90
Public Discussion / Re: Our Kickstarter: discuss i...
Last post by dYnAm1c - May 27, 2014, 11:35:47 PM
If something must happen it should happen fast, the Kickstarter is already around 16,000$ behind its schedule.