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Started by Splinterfactor8, April 20, 2008, 01:13:38 AM

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Farley4Fan

Haven't played it on PS3, but on 360 controls are fluid and simple.

InvisibleMan999

I generally like the feel of a controller better than a mouse and keyboard. It's just more relaxed, despite being less precise.

Hyrage

Quote from: InvisibleMan999 on April 26, 2008, 12:19:23 AM
I generally like the feel of a controller better than a mouse and keyboard. It's just more relaxed, despite being less precise.
I totally agree, but a lot of players actually prefer the mouse/keyboard. I admit that console games become more and more popular thought.

But despite of being less precise I just can't agree lol. For sure, a thumbstick is more difficult to master than a mouse, but less accurate? The way I play Halo 2-3 (br, snipe) and Rainbow Six Vegas 2 with a MK.23... I just can't say it's less accurated.

Unfortunately for Console games, we can't deny the fact that a console game also need a great thumbstick setting to feel confortable what not so many dev has been able to achieve. I even try to better set my controller settings on UT3 and I just messed it up lollll.

If PS wins the "Make Something Unreal" Contest, is the PS Dev Team palnning to bring the mod on 360? It would just be funtastic.
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Let's first try to win it, before making comments about stuff that most likely wont happen anyway, eh? :P
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Quote from: frvge on April 26, 2008, 12:47:18 AM
Let's first try to win it, before making comments about stuff that most likely wont happen anyway, eh? :P
For sure, but I didn't know if you already planned to port it for console later.
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Quote from: Hyrage on April 26, 2008, 12:40:22 AM
Quote from: InvisibleMan999 on April 26, 2008, 12:19:23 AM
I generally like the feel of a controller better than a mouse and keyboard. It's just more relaxed, despite being less precise.
I totally agree, but a lot of players actually prefer the mouse/keyboard. I admit that console games become more and more popular thought.

But despite of being less precise I just can't agree lol. For sure, a thumbstick is more difficult to master than a mouse, but less accurate? The way I play Halo 2-3 (br, snipe) and Rainbow Six Vegas 2 with a MK.23... I just can't say it's less accurated.

Unfortunately for Console games, we can't deny the fact that a console game also need a great thumbstick setting to feel confortable what not so many dev has been able to achieve. I even try to better set my controller settings on UT3 and I just messed it up lollll.

If PS wins the "Make Something Unreal" Contest, is the PS Dev Team palnning to bring the mod on 360? It would just be funtastic.

Yea its not less accurate at all, people just think it is because its harder to use. Its not like if you shoot in the same spot with a mouse and a analogue stick they will go in different places, because they wont. It's just harder to master. And yeh good xbox halo 2 players could easily have gg's with good pc halo 2 players. Bringing the mod to other platforms would be like the best thing that could happen to PS. Anyone who disagreees is retarded. Also cross platform gaming Xbox360/WindowsVista is possible too, they've already done it with shadowrun.

Cyntrox

Quote from: Hyrage on April 26, 2008, 12:40:22 AM
Quote from: InvisibleMan999 on April 26, 2008, 12:19:23 AM
I generally like the feel of a controller better than a mouse and keyboard. It's just more relaxed, despite being less precise.
I totally agree, but a lot of players actually prefer the mouse/keyboard. I admit that console games become more and more popular thought.

But despite of being less precise I just can't agree lol. For sure, a thumbstick is more difficult to master than a mouse, but less accurate? The way I play Halo 2-3 (br, snipe) and Rainbow Six Vegas 2 with a MK.23... I just can't say it's less accurated.

Unfortunately for Console games, we can't deny the fact that a console game also need a great thumbstick setting to feel confortable what not so many dev has been able to achieve. I even try to better set my controller settings on UT3 and I just messed it up lollll.

If PS wins the "Make Something Unreal" Contest, is the PS Dev Team palnning to bring the mod on 360? It would just be funtastic.
It's a matter of preference. I can't possibly imagine a thumbstick being as accurate as a mouse, but if it's your thing...

Farley4Fan

Accuracy?  Come on now, it's not like you get less recoil with a mouse.  It's the same, it's just preference.  It's real easy to get used to a mouse though.  It's not that easy to get used to an analog stick.  But once you've mastered the analog stick there isn't much of a difference.

Hyrage

Quote from: Cyntrox on April 26, 2008, 12:57:17 AM
Quote from: Hyrage on April 26, 2008, 12:40:22 AM
Quote from: InvisibleMan999 on April 26, 2008, 12:19:23 AM
I generally like the feel of a controller better than a mouse and keyboard. It's just more relaxed, despite being less precise.
I totally agree, but a lot of players actually prefer the mouse/keyboard. I admit that console games become more and more popular thought.

But despite of being less precise I just can't agree lol. For sure, a thumbstick is more difficult to master than a mouse, but less accurate? The way I play Halo 2-3 (br, snipe) and Rainbow Six Vegas 2 with a MK.23... I just can't say it's less accurated.

Unfortunately for Console games, we can't deny the fact that a console game also need a great thumbstick setting to feel confortable what not so many dev has been able to achieve. I even try to better set my controller settings on UT3 and I just messed it up lollll.

If PS wins the "Make Something Unreal" Contest, is the PS Dev Team palnning to bring the mod on 360? It would just be funtastic.
It's a matter of preference. I can't possibly imagine a thumbstick being as accurate as a mouse, but if it's your thing...
Well, I would like to show you a vid I made years ago. It was on mythica.org but the vid has been removed unfortunately. I played on a high level to Call of Duty 2 (pc), highest level on Soldier of Fortune 2 before the gold patch, high level on Quake 3 years ago, high level on Halo 2 and among the best R6 Vegas 2 players that you could see Online on the X-Box 360. I swear that here is no difference in terms of accuracy between a mouse and a thumbstick. However, it's harder to warm up with a thumbstick if you haven't played for a month and mouse would feel a lot more natural in this case.

The only thing you could need is practice ^^.
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One more thing, a lot of the time it's much easier to quickly aim at something with an analog stick because you only have to move it a fraction of an inch.  However, with a mouse it takes much more motion and a lot more muscles, therefore takes a bit longer.  Of course, it all depends on sensitivity, but all it takes for an analog stick is a flick of the thumb compared to a flick of the wrist.

Again, this is all down to preference.  I've been playing off and on with a mouse for years and full time with an analog stick.  I just prefer to use it.  No biggie really.

Gawain

Quote from: Hyrage on April 26, 2008, 01:19:46 AM
I swear that here is no difference in terms of accuracy between a mouse and a thumbstick.
yes there is. and even if you can reach the same accuracy, it is way slower to reach the same accuracy. i'm also pretty sure that most of the games you've mentionened have some form of slight auto-aim or bigger hitboxes in the console version.

Hyrage

Quote from: Rambo on April 26, 2008, 10:23:13 AM
Quote from: Hyrage on April 26, 2008, 01:19:46 AM
I swear that here is no difference in terms of accuracy between a mouse and a thumbstick.
yes there is. and even if you can reach the same accuracy, it is way slower to reach the same accuracy. i'm also pretty sure that most of the games you've mentionened have some form of slight auto-aim or bigger hitboxes in the console version.
I admire your perseverance, but it's quite annoying. Rainbow Six: Vegas 2 doesn't have anything related to "auto-aim" and huge hitboxes. The hitboxes are really small.

I paid attention to mention 2 games to really show it makes no difference betwwen a game with auto-aim [Halo 2] and a game without auto-aim [R6: V2].

So no it's not slower to reach the same accuracy, it's just a bit longer to warm up.
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I wouldn't say the mouse is more or less accurate than it just being plain faster.
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ps3 and XBOX support USB mouse/keyboard peripherals now dont they ?
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Quote from: Rambo on April 26, 2008, 10:23:13 AM
Quote from: Hyrage on April 26, 2008, 01:19:46 AM
I swear that here is no difference in terms of accuracy between a mouse and a thumbstick.
yes there is. and even if you can reach the same accuracy, it is way slower to reach the same accuracy. i'm also pretty sure that most of the games you've mentionened have some form of slight auto-aim or bigger hitboxes in the console version.

Its doesn't take longer to aim with analogue stick. Have you played halo 2 on the highest sensitivity setting? Jesus its fast, faster than a mouse even. And the slight autoaim is only on COD4 I believe.