i am an atheist

Started by Roberto1223, December 15, 2008, 11:08:30 PM

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Blank Man

"Do the research and stop getting these broad ideas in your head that everything falls into your definitions." + "Being an atheist means you don't believe in any God/gods." = Contradiction. and LOL

Take your own advice and stfu.
Oh and btw, faking confusion doesn't get you out of countering someone elses point. "That doesn't make any sense  :-[" awe, you poor befuddled child  :-*

Roberto1223

PAPASKULL: "What the hell is this even supposed to prove?  That God isn't human? Good job.  God works in mysterious ways and in way beyond our understanding of genius.  Leaving slight but not definitive evidence that he doesn't exist sounds very smart to me.  He roots out all the people who only see with their eyes."


no, that proves that the abstract idea of god was created by humans.



well the truth is that we will probably never know how it all began. The only thing im sure about is that many gods and religions have existed and disappeared throughout history and that this one is no exception. science, in contrast will continue to exist until humans become extinct. that is why i prefer science.

and just so u guys know im not a sour/bitter life hater or anything like that. (just in case somebody is assuming that i am) lol












Roberto1223

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WESTFALL "I do know that in 2001/2002 a professor of physics at UConn was one of the first to prove that energy leaves your body when you die. It goes along with the ideas of auras that surround your body. In fact, everything is electron based...perhaps the word matter rings a bell. Put your hands close together and notice how there is a warmth that you feel when they are close but not touching. This is the exact type of energy I'm talking about. I'm sorry that I can't site any of the specific books or online sources that I have read, but many metaphysical sites will state the same thing, if you're into that kind of stuff. However, its not that your energy goes into love and light BS like everyone wants to believe. If you want to think of balance, then you might be a little bit more on track."



westfall. the body produces heat, and heat is conducted by gas too (air), the heat you feel when you put your hands together is produced by your body. this heat is needed to be able to stay alive. yes, you are correct, heat is a form of energy.
we die our body stops functioning, consequetially it stops processing sources of energy and converting them to other forms of energy (like heat).

when we die, the heat is gone (homeothermia stops), because the cycle in our body fails. this equilibrium in our body is known as homeostasis.


"Energy" is a word that not many people understand, and it is a term that is frequently confused with "spirits".

Roberto1223

Quote from: Blank Man on December 23, 2008, 09:03:10 AM
Oh and btw, faking confusion doesn't get you out of countering someone elses point.


i agree with that, i hate it how every time somebody makes a good argument, people intetionaly "misunderstand" it or just completely evade it. lol.

VaNilla

Quote from: Papa Skull on December 23, 2008, 07:13:52 AM
QuoteUntill you explain... you're the ignorant one.
Other than that you're still ignorant because you think that if you type something ironic into a thread you are a bad ass.

Makes zero sense.

Quite right, you do make no sense Skull, if you don't explain something how can you expect people to take it with little more than a grain of salt. Lets take the idea of God, but call him Jelly Beans instead. I'm going to pray to Jelly Beans and Jelly Beans is going to listen to what I have to say. Jelly Beans in Omnipotent and Omnipresent, Jelly Beans created the world. Why does Jelly Beans do this? Well, Jelly Beans works in mysterious ways you see, beyond our understanding of genius.

It's all very fucking silly in my opinion.

Zedblade

There may be a God, there may not be. Who the fucks knows. If there is a God he isn't like anything written in the Bible or any other religious text.

The bigger question is, who the fuck cares. I've not really seen anything exclusivly good come from being a person of faith. It's kinda of pointless.

I can understand when people go to war over resources, land, freedom and the like. But killing because someone doesn't believe in the same invisible person in the sky as you is fucking nuts.

If there is a God, we are nothing to him. He takes a dump on a planet, and moves on without a 2nd thought.

frvge

Zedblade pwns us all with His awesomeness. All hail Zedblade. ;D
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Westfall

I do agree with most of what Zed is saying.

@ Roberto: what do you think heat is? It's all energy man. Everything breaks down into infinitely smaller particles. The same can be send that if things are infinitely small, then there must be infinitely big correct? All of it being energy, which can neither be created nor destroyed....sounds like matter too, which can neither be created nor destroyed.

frvge

QuoteEverything breaks down into infinitely smaller particles.
I disagree on that.
For example, time can't be broken down till infinity. Space AFAIK neither.
AFAIK, leptoms are the smallest particles and it's unlikely we'll find smaller ones, but that's partly what science is trying to figure out with the LHC.
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Westfall

Quote from: frvge on December 23, 2008, 07:09:16 PM
QuoteEverything breaks down into infinitely smaller particles.
I disagree on that.
For example, time can't be broken down till infinity. Space AFAIK neither.
AFAIK, leptoms are the smallest particles and it's unlikely we'll find smaller ones, but that's partly what science is trying to figure out with the LHC.


The LHC is going to do just that by finding the "god" particle. Things can easily be broken down infinitely. Just because we haven't gotten small enough to the "god" particle or beyond because we aren't there yet in terms of technology/science doesn't mean it's not happening. Things can easily be broken down smaller and smaller....take anything that is matter based or dark-matter based for example.

I don't know if you can consider "time" as part of matter. Time is under its own category because of how ridiculously unique it is. Time can be broken down into infinite amounts of random light photons. Einstein knew this and knew plenty leading up to the "god" particle. This is one of the main reasons why time is so hard to define because the light photons act at random. Space is made up of matter and holy-crap amounts of dark matter that we can't even see without using infrared. Even then we haven't had the chance to properly expand our knowledge on dark-matter because we aren't there yet.

You guys might be interested in the magnetic fields that are collapsing around the earth that keep the solar storms at bay most of the time.

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2008/12/081217-solar-breaches.html
http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2008/16dec_giantbreach.htm?list164000

frvge

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Westfall

I could only have a glance at them because I have to run out, but both the space and time paradoxes dealt with infinity.

frvge

Yes, my point is that time and space can't be infinitly divided.
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Farley4Fan

Quote from: Blank Man on December 23, 2008, 09:03:10 AM
Oh and btw, faking confusion doesn't get you out of countering someone elses point. "That doesn't make any sense  :-[" awe, you poor befuddled child  :-*

Man you're just fucking stupid dude.  I was confused as to why you said I was ignorant for posting some stupid ironic phrase!  That makes me ignorant?  That makes zero sense.  That does.  You know what else it does?  Proves to me that you're an idiot.  I didn't evade anything.  Quit twisting words, some people are actually believing you.  You'll get caught in your own friggin mess eventually.

Good day.

Quote from: Roberto1223 on December 23, 2008, 09:28:22 AM
Quote from: Blank Man on December 23, 2008, 09:03:10 AM
Oh and btw, faking confusion doesn't get you out of countering someone elses point.


i agree with that, i hate it how every time somebody makes a good argument, people intetionaly "misunderstand" it or just completely evade it. lol.

I agree with that too.  I even said it on this freaking thread.  Unfortunately people today have no reading comprehension or are too lazy to check back and see that blank man took that out of context to try and down me.  Unfortunately, he failed and is now appearing to be stupid.  I said that it made zero sense that he tried to call me ignorant for posting something ironic.  That's why he called me ignorant, and that's why I was confused.  I was evading nothing.  At all. 

Good day to you too.

QuoteQuite right, you do make no sense Skull, if you don't explain something how can you expect people to take it with little more than a grain of salt. Lets take the idea of God, but call him Jelly Beans instead. I'm going to pray to Jelly Beans and Jelly Beans is going to listen to what I have to say. Jelly Beans in Omnipotent and Omnipresent, Jelly Beans created the world. Why does Jelly Beans do this? Well, Jelly Beans works in mysterious ways you see, beyond our understanding of genius.

It's all very fucking silly in my opinion.

Again, this just goes with the reading comprehension thing.  I'll explain whatever I can.  However, when someone (who is an idiot I might add) takes something out of context and twists it to his liking to make himself look good, and people follow him without getting the details of the statement, it saddens me.  It's laziness.  Don't be sheep.

You can call God whatever you wish.  Doesn't make him any less real.  It only sounds funny if you give God a funny name, don't be dumb.  What is so illogical about God?  I'm sure you'll find the same problems with the big bang, or whatever else.

Oh, and when science finally runs out of things it can explain, look for me.  I'll be the guy waving the "I told you so!" sign.  Many scientists already know this.  The more they look at things.  The more they see how perfectly imperfect it all is, the more it becomes obvious to them that there is no possible way that it happened by chance. 

Quoteno, that proves that the abstract idea of god was created by humans.



well the truth is that we will probably never know how it all began. The only thing im sure about is that many gods and religions have existed and disappeared throughout history and that this one is no exception. science, in contrast will continue to exist until humans become extinct. that is why i prefer science.

and just so u guys know im not a sour/bitter life hater or anything like that. (just in case somebody is assuming that i am) lol

I think we will know.  Eventually.  And again, you are thinking that Science cannot ever have anything to do with God.  In fact it's quite the opposite.  The goal of science is not to disprove God, but to find out how he works.  Investigating the universe that a God created using science is the best way to do it, obviously.  I love science.  Hell yeah.  Learn it all, all that we can anyway.  It only makes it all the more obvious.


Farley4Fan

Quote"Do the research and stop getting these broad ideas in your head that everything falls into your definitions." + "Being an atheist means you don't believe in any God/gods." = Contradiction. and LOL

Atheist.

A - without
Theist - God

Ever hear of monotheism?  One god?
Polytheism?  Many gods? 
now, atheism.
No God.

Atheism can also be the rejection of theism.  No matter what though, the definition is the definition.  Show me one atheist that believes in God.

It's not my definition, it's THE definition. 

More idiocy Blank Man?  You're losing credibility, and fast.