i am an atheist

Started by Roberto1223, December 15, 2008, 11:08:30 PM

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Tidenburg

Do I win at the internet yet?

Wh1tE_Dw4rF

Your spam made my picture gone unnoticed, therefore I shall put it again!






Tidenburg



Tidenburg

You remind me of ivory tower complex. :)

tigaer

Everybody has their own beliefs. If you don't agree, who gives a shit?

Tidenburg

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Sure thing tigaer, in a perfect world. But in crazy places like the middle-east and America, things with actual evidence behind them are not being taught in schools, people aren't given equal rights because of what's "against god" and people can't run for positions of power because some morons use a book from two millennia ago to build their social values.

If people's beliefs are running a so-called "free country" or impede other's rights. Then I give a shit.

Secularism forever. I hate to sound patriotic (I'm not, my country's crap in so many ways) but in the UK, religion is not even taken into account while voting; I can't say I even know what faith any of the people running are. Gay marriage (civil partnership) is legal here and has exactly the same rights as a straight partnering and we teach evolution as fact until another theory is proposed. We're not completely secular, we all have a built in bias so that must go for those who make the laws, but we're hell of a way more there than america.

We're also over-run with muslims. >_>

Aj

Just to point something out in one of your pics: Catholics are the ones that believe in original sin.  Not all Christianity believes in it.

Ion.67

QuoteJust to point something out in one of your pics: Catholics are the ones that believe in original sin.  Not all Christianity believes in it.

See? You already are proving the point that religion is bullshit. You don't believe the same as other people, yet you believe in the same book and same things. Doesn't make sense.

Evolution is taught in America. In my school it is taught and taught well, with the teachers not sounding doubtful or saying "theory" or anything. It is called the theory of evolution, but theory is defined clearly in our books. If I didn't know politics is all bullshit and requires politically advantageous campaigns to win any election, I would love to run for office. Laws that need to be passed in every state:

1) Gay Marriage is alright
2) Universal Healthcare in its raw, correct form
3) When running for office, certain things should not be released to the public, like religion. The public should vote purely based on political views. When trying out for our state orchestra, the contestants are placed in a room with the judges, behind a curtain. That leaves a fair tryout, where only the sound matters. I can only imagine how much better a system of government would run like that.

Atheism is the most underrepresented religion in the US politically if I remember my stats correctly. They also have, on average, a higher IQ. Religion has no basis in government. I hate life.

Wh1tE_Dw4rF

Quote from: Ion.67 on March 29, 2010, 01:21:25 AM

1) Gay Marriage is alright
The problem with gay marriage isn't so much that gay marry, it's also because "marriage" is known for quite long as a lifelong commitment between a woman and a male. I personally don't like the term "gay marriage", although if they would name it differently then that is fine.

3) When running for office, certain things should not be released to the public, like religion. The public should vote purely based on political views. When trying out for our state orchestra, the contestants are placed in a room with the judges, behind a curtain. That leaves a fair tryout, where only the sound matters. I can only imagine how much better a system of government would run like that.
If a candidate doesn't tell me wether or not he is believing in any of the many religions how would I know for sure to vote on him? Even if he has a perfectly fine campaign he might still be a christian for example thus chances are big that when he is selected he will come up with religious based ideas. Say I don't want religious based ideals I would like to know in advance if he has any form of religion.


Roberto1223

Quote from: CurdyMilk on March 28, 2010, 04:56:48 AM
It is quite interesting to even look at the history of the United States.  We were founded on ââ,¬Å"Christianââ,¬Â principles with God (The God proclaimed throughout the Bible) as the supreme ruler of the country.  And how did we gain prosperity and eventually become the most powerful nation in the world?  -by obeying God and trusting in him to provide for our needs.  He blessed America.  Now, we are falling away from these principles quite obviously, and I believe this is the reason we are declining as a nation.



I LOL'ed

Also, good pictures they are funny as well!
i saved those for future lol'ing xD

Tidenburg

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Quote from: Wh1tE_Dw4rF on March 29, 2010, 02:26:55 AM
Quote from: Ion.67 on March 29, 2010, 01:21:25 AM

1) Gay Marriage is alright
The problem with gay marriage isn't so much that gay marry, it's also because "marriage" is known for quite long as a lifelong commitment between a woman and a male. I personally don't like the term "gay marriage", although if they would name it differently then that is fine.

3) When running for office, certain things should not be released to the public, like religion. The public should vote purely based on political views. When trying out for our state orchestra, the contestants are placed in a room with the judges, behind a curtain. That leaves a fair tryout, where only the sound matters. I can only imagine how much better a system of government would run like that.
If a candidate doesn't tell me wether or not he is believing in any of the many religions how would I know for sure to vote on him? Even if he has a perfectly fine campaign he might still be a christian for example thus chances are big that when he is selected he will come up with religious based ideas. Say I don't want religious based ideals I would like to know in advance if he has any form of religion.


I semi-agree with you here. I don't agree with "gay marriage" as such. Christianity may be stupid, but you still gotta let them have their club. Let them be civil-partners, let them CALL it gay marriage, have a ceremony (could even be at a church) and let them have the same rights as a married couple - it's essentially the same thing. No need to storm in on the loonies and force them to change their rules, kinda defeats the purpose. Why would any gay want to be married before God anyway? The bible is quite clear about being anti-gay... then I suppose why would black people marry before him either... or women... or any non-white male.

tigaer

#462
Why do atheists complain about Christians trying to force religion when they do the same thing?

Atheist: "So you're a Christian?"
Christian: "Yes."
Atheist: "Why? God doesn't exist, you'd be so much happier without religion man."
Christian: "God does exist, and you'd be so much happier with him."
Blah blah blah.

This happens all the time, I have tons of atheist and christian friends that do it. It's contradicting and annoying that atheists complain about forcing religion when they do the exact same thing to religious people.

Just a random thought. That is all.

Roberto1223

i watched the zeigheist video you posted
i was intrigued, how it said all the astrology stuff about the christian bible and believed it 90% cause it makes sense, but idk i got a feeling these zeigheist dudes might be a bunch of assholes making shit up

the second part of the video regarding 911 being a conspiracy is kinda harder for me to get convinced on, im very unsure about that...

good video very interesting. so now the question this video raises is:

Did jesus christ exist according to these zeigheist dudes?

Im guessing that a jesus christ impostor did exist indeed and that he was nothing but a poor bum/hippie. and that romans killed him for that reason.

also check this video out its pretty funny, I must admit this rocker guy is kinda good at filtering his mouth at times i think he was just putting on a show at times.

This is a good example of the kind of people who claim they are a god lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7OzPfYcpe8c
theres 2 parts watch em both for the lolz both are funny

Wh1tE_Dw4rF

Well the "jezus" figure could have been true very likely in one way or another. But it's all due to interpretation that people make stuff out that make no sense.

People back then were stupid, they had no education. The only thing they knew is what their parents and surrounding told them when they grew up.

So basicly if a whole group was gasping at something they didn't understand, 1 person yelling it's done by the hands of god it would make perfectly sense to them. As they lacked the ability to think otherwise. (because for example someone with good intentions was killed and it started to rain, they would think the ky was weeping because of this infortune but maybe it was just about to rain?)