Merc -finished!!

Started by goodkebab, May 11, 2007, 11:20:08 AM

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Vega

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I completely agree with spekkio, I too have a negative feeling toward the M4.  The M4 is outdated and while still cool looking - it doesn't seem to represent our game well.  We have a game universe where a lot of shit doesn't make sense; multiple fist-sized grenades somehow compacted into a small launching chamber of a gun, spy bullets, thermal and night-vision in one set of goggles, etc. 

Adding a modern, uninteresting M4 gives our game that "realistic" feel.  Don't get me wrong, I'm all for realistic aspects of this game, but it feels like it doesn't fit our universe or our artistic direction.  It's like taking Team Fortress Classic or Team Fortress 2 and adding in the M16A2 for one of the classes.  It's too serious for a game that isn't serious/realistic to begin with.  Yeah, Chaos theory added an Uzi and a FN2000 Auto, but neither of them actually look like the guns themselves.

goodkebab

It really is about the time and energy it takes to get this done.   I had a highquality M4 sitting around the house and ready to go.  I can modify it,  and maybe tweak the design enough that its not recognizable as an M4, its just a lot of work to do.


and if the the spies can take 2 body shots and keep on running....this gun is  a not much more then a .22

;)

Gawain


Zedblade

Quote from: goodkebab on September 11, 2007, 10:23:20 AM
exactly...People really have a lot of opinions on how they want the characters to look -so better to get a collective feedback.

Still, in the end you can't please everyone and should just go with what you think looks right.

Cyntrox

Quote from: Spekkio on September 27, 2007, 12:44:57 PM
Dude, the M4 is so .... 70's. I think you should render one of the rumored next-gen rifles.
The M4 was made in the 90's.. You must be thinking of the M16.

goodkebab

M4,  visually anyways is,  is almost identical to the M16 except you see it modded with scopes, night vision,  lasers, flashlights, etc etc.  -the kind of equipment you see on our mercs.

Spekkio

Yes, but I still contend that a more futeristic modelled weapon fits the theme of the game better, and looks hell of a lot better than an M4 with 4 different attachments.

Also, the m4 is intended for CQB, so the whole sniper attachment makes no sense on it.

Farley4Fan

Mostly the M16 had sort of a rounded barrel.  M4 doesn't.

I still think that we should go with the XM8 or the MTAR.  They look futuristic enough and they are just awesome guns in general.  They both have a good range, MTAR doesn't never mind, but we could always modify it to look futuristic and more sniper like.  Just give it a bigger barrel and a longer scope and we would be set.

Let's make a poll!  I am gonna go make a thread in the general discussions menu for weapon decision.  Go check it out and vote so we can get more collective results.

Gawain

it's just that the m4 is no good for large distances at all and sucks in general compared to more expensive and later weapons. with the models done this professional, i'm worried that the wrong gun(s) could destroy the general picture.

Westfall

Quote from: Zedblade on September 27, 2007, 07:40:24 PM
Quote from: goodkebab on September 11, 2007, 10:23:20 AM
exactly...People really have a lot of opinions on how they want the characters to look -so better to get a collective feedback.

Still, in the end you can't please everyone and should just go with what you think looks right.

This is correct

Spekkio

Not to mention that it will look silly for the mercs to be carrying an extremely realistically modelled weapon, but when he shoots there is absolutely no recoil.

Gawain

the m4 or g36 has almost no recoil

Farley4Fan

hurry up and post gawain you have 666 posts.

anyways, a g36 style gun with a longer barrel would be a good look for our merc's gun.  Too bad the gun is already in progress, I know it will still be good though...

reason3d

hope this isnt a dead post , but why not use the HK 416 ? its basically an m4 but fully upgraded with RIS and ravamped for durability .

the gL can be easily mounted on the underside of the handguard's rail and and lasers could be mounted there as well .


neth

as far as i know the gun is finished, its presented somewhere here on forum, dont remember where exactly