What should we keep?

[Farley4Fan]

I would love the jump up into the ceiling move in PS.  It was useful and pretty damn slick and spylike.  Another one would be sliding over low hanging obstacles.  ALso diving through glass and over obstacles.  Pretty much all of them I think...

[Gawain]

i don't like variable flashlight because spies need to know the safety range and you could always use the spotlight mode and sway quickly in all directions anyways. maybe it would be balanced with eye adaption so that if it's bright in front of you, you see worse in the dark.
do we plan on implementing the iris adaption from ct? the effect was so little and slow that someone had to pointen it out to me so that i perceived it XD
there's also the underused laser...

i have no problems with some fancy escape moves if they are way slower than in scda. the speed was just ridiculous...

[InvisibleMan999]

i don't like variable flashlight because spies need to know the safety range and you could always use the spotlight mode and sway quickly in all directions anyways. maybe it would be balanced with eye adaption so that if it's bright in front of you, you see worse in the dark.
do we plan on implementing the iris adaption from ct? the effect was so little and slow that someone had to pointen it out to me so that i perceived it XD
there's also the underused laser...

Yeah, right now the laser is sorta like the targetted spotlight in DA. Which is kinda why I suggested maybe a gadget that lets you vary the length of your flashlight, so not everyone has it, but people can take it if they want and it acts much like an upgraded laser.

Taking up a valuable merc gadget slot, I'm pretty sure it wouldn't be overpowered. I mean, I'd rather my foes have variable length flashlights than mines or frags.

[kronf]

Laser is a very useful tool, which I have used a lot and would like it to be kept.

[Spekkio]

Laser is a very useful tool, which I have used a lot and would like it to be kept.

+1

Random off-track thought: there are two distinct quirks between euro and na players:
-Euro players love 3rd party chat programs for a game that has a perfectly clear and functional VOIP. I will never understand why.
-NA players use the laser a lot more than Euro players. I even had Valserp ask me why we [americans] use it so much. I just find it easier to keep track of the spy through smoke, while emf ghosting, and through being blinded by flashbangs.

Oh, and the flashlight would be used a lot more if you could snipe with it like in the Xbox version of CT and all versions of PT + no MT NV seeing stationary spies.

[InvisibleMan999]

Laser is a very useful tool, which I have used a lot and would like it to be kept.

I like the laser, the only issues I have with it are that it hides the SD and reticule. I really don't think it should do that in the new version. The laser just isn't powerful enough to warrant taking away merc features.

Also did you know that if you hold the laser on someone for liek 10 seconds it spytraps him?   

[kronf]

Laser is a very useful tool, which I have used a lot and would like it to be kept.

I like the laser, the only issues I have with it are that it hides the SD and reticule. I really don't think it should do that in the new version. The laser just isn't powerful enough to warrant taking away merc features.

Also did you know that if you hold the laser on someone for liek 10 seconds it spytraps him?   

No way, thats liek hax? And laser IS fine as it is.

EDIT: It is totally useless feature. If you have enough time to hold laser on spy then you probably can kill him as easily.

[InvisibleMan999]

No way, thats liek hax? And laser IS fine as it is.

EDIT: It is totally useless feature. If you have enough time to hold laser on spy then you probably can kill him as easily.

Yeah it is useless, about the only time I end up using it really is when I get a total newb on polar base who sits on top and I get to laser him through camnet. I was just mentioning that because most people don't know that about the laser. It's just a cool hidden feature that is absolutely useless in normal games.

As far as improving the laser, do you think it'd be a big deal if we let the reticule and SD stay on screen while using the laser? Does anyone experienced with the laser know if that would be broken? Offhand it doesn't seem too bad since you can just switch the laser off to see your SD (since the sound still gets recorded you just don't see it), and there are a variety of third party hacks people use to put up a red dot where the crosshair would normally be. So I don't see it as a very big dealt o just normalize the laser.

The big disadvantage of the laser should just be that you can't use it with the flashlight.

[Farley4Fan]

Laser is a very useful tool, which I have used a lot and would like it to be kept.

I like the laser, the only issues I have with it are that it hides the SD and reticule. I really don't think it should do that in the new version. The laser just isn't powerful enough to warrant taking away merc features.

Also did you know that if you hold the laser on someone for liek 10 seconds it spytraps him?   

Umm, I hope to God that was a joke.

It should spy trap him in like 5 seconds or so.

[Gawain]

ct's laser and flashlight are just fine (except while sniping).
the reason why i'm preferring teamspeak over ingame voip is being able to speak while in server browser, in loading screens, or with more people than my mate. it also got an adjustable volume barrier for people that don't like using press to talk. at least the ingame voip is working for me now, i got problems with my old mic and soundcard for some unknown reason.


papa skull, your comment just shows one more time that you need to spend some time on the pc version. i can't see why you mind doing this as you'll have to get used to pc controls for ps anyways...

[QLemont]

No need to be rude....  :-*

[SITHDUKE]

The laser is fine hiding the sound detector and recticle. It doesn't actually make that much of a difference since you still 'hear' the recticle pinging so you just turn it off and wait for the spy to make a noise.

[Spekkio]

As far as improving the laser, do you think it'd be a big deal if we let the reticule and SD stay on screen while using the laser? Does anyone experienced with the laser know if that would be broken? Offhand it doesn't seem too bad since you can just switch the laser off to see your SD (since the sound still gets recorded you just don't see it), and there are a variety of third party hacks people use to put up a red dot where the crosshair would normally be. So I don't see it as a very big dealt o just normalize the laser.

Yes, it'd make a big difference. By using the laser, you sacrifice audio awareness for visual awareness. As a matter of fact, they need to take away the fact that you can still hear the reticle ping while the laser is on (in which case you can switch back and catch the back end of the sound reticle going off).

[InvisibleMan999]

Yes, it'd make a big difference. By using the laser, you sacrifice audio awareness for visual awareness. As a matter of fact, they need to take away the fact that you can still hear the reticle ping while the laser is on (in which case you can switch back and catch the back end of the sound reticle going off).

I dont' know. I mean, I find that the laser just isn't that good to justify that sort of nerf. I mean I could see removing the reticule for CT MT, that would make perfect sense, since MT is uber. The laser just isn't that effective to warrant that treatment.

And right now people can pretty much already hear with the laser on, you've just got to switch it off fast enough once you hear the ping sound. Basically I'd say just make it less of a pain to use, because it's really nothing to write home about. 

[Westfall]

I'd also like to point out adding two speeds while pole climbing would be a good idea too. That way, if needed climbing a pole won't set off MT.

also, won't set off a proxy