The Utility Belt!!!

[Farley4Fan]

What is this?  My third thread in a couple days?!  Kill me before I make another!!!  Just kidding.

So, for spies.  What about like a utility belt?  It's a gadget that takes up a slot but it lets spies bring a couple extra grenades or maybe some extra gadgets.

How about this:

Gives spies 2 more of each grenade type they carry
Gives them 1 more of each security item they carry ( stickies, snares, bullets )
Possibly it could give some extra juice for camo suit or ss?  Maybe not, maybe so.

This could give them a little too much though.  But if it only gave you 2 extra smokes and flashes and one more sticky I'd take it.

What do you think?  Suggest PLEASE!  This is an idea and not the final stage of how it would be balanced or helpful or both!

Oh yeah, it would look like batmans belt except instead of the bat insignia on the buckle it could be like a green light or something.

Would you guys like something like this?  Like a mini version of a backpack for spies?

[Overstatement]

If you need this, it means that you either:
1) live too long (bad)
2) run into the merc too much (bad)
3) love making happy faces on the wall ( :), but bad)

[frvge]

More nades=more aggro. Unless you make it that activating it takes 5 secs of immobileness.

[B1nArY_001]

This is not an opinion on the gadget (not sure, I didn't think the holo through thoroughly so I'll contemplate this one a bit more carefully ;)) but shouldn't we also consider the aggro player? We are creating environments and what not that are stealth based but an aggro player can work with that. What an aggro player can't work with is not enough tools that are aggro friendly. I'll be completely up front here, I love aggro. I'm a bit biased on the subject but I do think that with the way we have made sure not to restrict play styles, we should not shy from giving the player something that an aggro player would benefit from.

[Cyntrox]

I agree, all play styles should be supported.

[neth]

Im for it If we add time required to refill (as frvge said). Not sure if it should be 5 sec or less. Anyway, I support the idea.

[Gawain]

no. there's already enough smoke/flash/chaff/quickcam spamming going on and it had to provide some serious additional amount of stuff that players would give up a slot for it. i also don't like the similarity to backpack.

[Spekkio]

We are creating environments and what not that are stealth based but an aggro player can work with that. What an aggro player can't work with is not enough tools that are aggro friendly. I'll be completely up front here, I love aggro. I'm a bit biased on the subject but I do think that with the way we have made sure not to restrict play styles, we should not shy from giving the player something that an aggro player would benefit from.

This forum is anti-aggro on the whole, but some of the most tense games I've had involved aggro spies and killing one off as one or both of the mercs had just 1 life left.

[Gawain]

good aggro players benefit more from reliably working flash bangs, no funny/lag charges etc than from an equipment belt that does nothing but encourage nade spam.

[Gui Brazil]

We are creating environments and what not that are stealth based but an aggro player can work with that. What an aggro player can't work with is not enough tools that are aggro friendly. I'll be completely up front here, I love aggro. I'm a bit biased on the subject but I do think that with the way we have made sure not to restrict play styles, we should not shy from giving the player something that an aggro player would benefit from.

This forum is anti-aggro on the whole, but some of the most tense games I've had involved aggro spies and killing one off as one or both of the mercs had just 1 life left.

Finally someone that thinks like me...I was starting to feel lonely here.

[Gawain]

the gadget loadout is quite balanced in ct (sadly not the gadgets themself)
stealth gadgets: camo, hbs, snares, chaff, cams,...
aggro gadgets: smoke, flash, chaff, spy bullets, quick cams,...
it's impossible and stupid to make a clear separation, but there's tools for both aggro and stealth players and most gadgets can be used by both in different ways (flash for getting to a hiding spot <> flash for going for necks; chaff to disable mines without removing them <> chaff for keeping merc out of vision modes etc)

[Overstatement]

I'm not going to tweak equipment to completely eliminate aggro (story is suppose to be a little bit of DM and a little bit of disk hunt). But I'm not going to support aggro (by designing equipment specifically for it), it's against the spirit of the game and I certainly don't want half my games against full aggro.

[Farley4Fan]

Well, sure a lot of players would use it for aggro.  I'm not "anti-aggro".  It's not my personal playstyle, but I respect the ones who do it well.  Sure it isn't the designated way to play, but there honestly shouldn't be a designated way to play the game.  It's whatever gets the job done for you.

Most of the time, when I'm out of nades or cams, escape is MUCH tougher!  Almost impossible with good opponents.  I'd like an easier way to get some more other than getting myself killed or asking my selfish partner politely.

[Gawain]

actually it's quite easy not to spam smoke/flash so that you got enough left to escape and it's also quite possible to play without smoke/flash at all.

[Farley4Fan]

Yeah but if you live long enough your gadget supply is going to decrease.  My idea rewards those players who live long enough and it gives them the oppurtunity to live even longer.  The only way to escape without gadgets is to shock the merc and hopefully you can break the line of sight. 

I use flash not for aggro tactics, but for escaping.  If someone uses them for aggro then cool, whatever, good for them.  Like you said, some gadgets can be used for aggro and stealth alike.

This is a gadget to complement all other gadgets, rather than just being a gadget with its own unique use.  It helps the others and gives you a better supply of them.  But the question is rather you'd be willing to sacrifice one of your gadgets for the good of the others.