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[Farley4Fan]

i guess the console players don't have that much time to actually think as they are fighting with the crappy controls all the time  ;D

It may feel crappy to you, but not the people that have spent years on the same controls Gawain.  I don't think about what button I am pushing anymore, I just got used to it.  And since you took one crack at using a controller you say OMFG DIS SUCKS WHAT BUTTON DOO I POOSH!!!?

[Gawain]

dude, it was meant in an ironic way...
thouth there's some truth in it as pc controls > console controls easily.

[Farley4Fan]

Well yeah, if you count the fact that you can assign moves to their own keys then yeah, they are better.  Other than that, they are just different.  It's all about what you are used to.  If you played on console for years like I have then you wouldn't think that they are so much better.

[Gawain]

rofl mao no further comment needed

[Tidenburg]

Thats like saying the PS controller is better than the xbox. They're completely different and its only a matter of preference. Beside gawain, you will be the most biased seeming as you currently the biggest PC fanboy on here ;)

[neth]

And since you took one crack at using a controller you say OMFG DIS SUCKS WHAT BUTTON DOO I POOSH!!!?

Oh man I know that... Got killed in Halo 3 on easy mode cause instead of shooting I was reloading all the time.

[Farley4Fan]

Yep, it's a matter of preference and what you are used to.  The only thing PC has for it is that you can decide what you want the controls to be.  I can just stick to defaults on any game and get good at it and not worry about what button I poosh.  ( I love that word I just made up lol )

[InvisibleMan999]

PC controls actually are better. Better in the sense that they're faster, more responsive etc. It's easier to snipe on a PC for instance than it is on the xbox.

However, faster and more responsive controls don't always mean better gameplay. Especially when you want to get people to focus on tactics, sometimes having controls that are too good means it just turns into a game of twitch skills and no real tactics, because if you just beat everyone via speed. then it may not matter what tactics you use. Also it invariably means host advantage is bigger on a PC, becuase it may just take half a second to get a sniper headshot instead of a full second or 1.5 seconds on a console controller.

So better controls don't always mean a better game.

[Farley4Fan]

Good point.

[Westfall]

Advantage of PC controls are the assignment properties to certain keys and the mouse. Mouse makes joystick(s) look stupid.

[Farley4Fan]

I don't need to change buttons around.  Usually, the controls are decent on default.  Then, I get used to the default and I don't worry about what I'm pressing, I just do it.

[Gawain]

i guess in the pc version is way less place for mistakes on both sides which is not a bad thing.

the problem though is that the mercs gain more advantage from better aim and are not only better against aggro, but also against stealth. with enhanced specialization of the vision modes, a boosted camo and fixed sound there will open up way more stealth opportunities thus creating balance without drastically changing map design.

my point remains that controls shoudln't be the limiting factor and that you (papaskull) probably suck at this game compared to invisibleman. this mod is primarily created for the vets of the pc version of pt/ct and not for some stupid console kids ffs. if you want to be part of the pc communnity, you gotta adapt to it.

[VaNilla]

When I played PT and CT on PS2 I found it almost as enjoyable as i do on PC, obviously it's better on PC as they are more widely played, and more full on the PC than the PS2, plus the controls are actually better.

But the console games are still great :D. I played CT on an Xbox at my friends house one time and it's just as fun.

[Westfall]

These threads always turn into Gawain and Papa bickering back and forth. Talk about uninteresting.

[B1nArY_001]

These threads always turn into Gawain and Papa bickering back and forth. Talk about uninteresting.

Shit, at least Spekkio and I make disagreements entertaining!

Spek care to debate PC vs Console with me? Show these noobs how it's done?  ;D