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[Gawain]

agent may not be that good and act like a nationalistic moron sometimes, but his smurfing-is-bullshit point feels really important to me. one of the unique things of the small svm community is that things aren't that anonyme, and i'd really love to see the social aspect found in pt days return with ps (correct me if i'm wrong, but it felt more personal to me in the short time i played pt). ingame voip is also a good thing for the social aspect...

[Farley4Fan]

Yeah, and he should be able to discuss it and not seem like an asshole about it.  Just ignore the people you aren't really in good terms with if they try and lash at you.  Imo, that's the best solution.

[seefoo.]

you know if people want to smurf let them.  i dont really see what the big deal is in having many online names.  sometimes people just want to be along and game or not talk to anyone or just like having many names.

ontopic:  names showing up joining and disconnecting should show - its like the basics for all the games now isnt it?

[neth]

you know if people want to smurf let them.  i dont really see what the big deal is in having many online names.  sometimes people just want to be along and game or not talk to anyone or just like having many names.

qft

[Guggle]

Yeah, what ever. I'm not gonna offend any opinions, because I want this community to be successful, however, whoever is saying that smurfing is stupid... is probably the people who constantly kick people that are better than them, just because they like winning. That is the only reason I smurf, can't get around any other way. You'll find me on my original name at all times, unless I am in a server where people don't like me  :P

[Farley4Fan]

Or kick people because they cheat or talk shit.  I don't boot people who are better than me, in fact, if they are better than me I'd rather have them in the game.  That way, I can learn from their strategies and it's good practice.  Whenever I kick people it's because I don't like their attitude or they are glitching/cheating...  If someone who is constantly fighting with people or is a cheater, then smurfing becomes a problem for me.  ( even though it doesn't happen much on xbox live because it costs money to change names )

You know, if you really wanted to stop smurfing you could make a system like xbox live.  Where you make playing the game an actual service.  But of course it wouldn't cost as much money.  You have a credit card you enter under your name and charge people to change their name.  Like, I'd make it a dollar.  Just so people wouldn't want to go through all of that trouble just to get a new name.

NOTE that it might be a little too complicated to go in that direction.  It might not even be worth it.  I'd just say forget it and let it happen.  So what.  Someone changes their name, they are still the same person.  If you don't like playing with them then leave or kick them.

[Xris]

Smurfing is not the problem with ppl you dont want in your server.  The problem is it needs to be IP or CDKey bans and not a name ban.  Also kick should work everytime not sometimes.

Also if we can do it, if a person is banned X ammount of times they should be added to a global ban list so no one has to deal with them anymore.

[Guggle]

Or kick people because they cheat or talk shit.  I don't boot people who are better than me, in fact, if they are better than me I'd rather have them in the game.  That way, I can learn from their strategies and it's good practice.  Whenever I kick people it's because I don't like their attitude or they are glitching/cheating...  If someone who is constantly fighting with people or is a cheater, then smurfing becomes a problem for me.  ( even though it doesn't happen much on xbox live because it costs money to change names )

You know, if you really wanted to stop smurfing you could make a system like xbox live.  Where you make playing the game an actual service.  But of course it wouldn't cost as much money.  You have a credit card you enter under your name and charge people to change their name.  Like, I'd make it a dollar.  Just so people wouldn't want to go through all of that trouble just to get a new name.

NOTE that it might be a little too complicated to go in that direction.  It might not even be worth it.  I'd just say forget it and let it happen.  So what.  Someone changes their name, they are still the same person.  If you don't like playing with them then leave or kick them.

I do not hack, and I do not disrespect anybody, other than the people who start me up. Agent kicked me for purely beating him. I tried smurfing on his server, but I ended up getting kicked. So, then, I was a bit vexed with him. He says "I'm annoying" I was just acknowledging how much he feared being beat, and how much he feared unknown people in his server. Besides, is smurfing really an issue here? If you ask me, anti-smurfers just want to gain attention.

[Farley4Fan]

Ok, then I agree with you.  Smurfing isn't so much of a problem imo.  Just find friends who don't frequently change their name and play with them.

[AgentX_003]

Or kick people because they cheat or talk shit.  I don't boot people who are better than me, in fact, if they are better than me I'd rather have them in the game.  That way, I can learn from their strategies and it's good practice.  Whenever I kick people it's because I don't like their attitude or they are glitching/cheating...  If someone who is constantly fighting with people or is a cheater, then smurfing becomes a problem for me.  ( even though it doesn't happen much on xbox live because it costs money to change names )

You know, if you really wanted to stop smurfing you could make a system like xbox live.  Where you make playing the game an actual service.  But of course it wouldn't cost as much money.  You have a credit card you enter under your name and charge people to change their name.  Like, I'd make it a dollar.  Just so people wouldn't want to go through all of that trouble just to get a new name.

NOTE that it might be a little too complicated to go in that direction.  It might not even be worth it.  I'd just say forget it and let it happen.  So what.  Someone changes their name, they are still the same person.  If you don't like playing with them then leave or kick them.

I do not hack, and I do not disrespect anybody, other than the people who start me up. Agent kicked me for purely beating him. I tried smurfing on his server, but I ended up getting kicked. So, then, I was a bit vexed with him. He says "I'm annoying" I was just acknowledging how much he feared being beat, and how much he feared unknown people in his server. Besides, is smurfing really an issue here? If you ask me, anti-smurfers just want to gain attention.

it seems to me you have such a selective memory like blackveldt, you only remember what games you yourself won but buddy I know in my mind I've defeated you plenty of times then you have fingers and toes.

Regardless win or loss , my argument about the whole Anti-smurfing , it just makes me sick that people as papa was saying , talk shit and hide behind different names to cover their ass.. weither people realize it or not , gaming is turning into a sport , and with that being said I expect good sportsman ship from all players.

Also im not afraid to loose on this name , hence why i keep playing on it.

@ papa skull, thats like finding a needle in a haystack.


@Fusion slayer , I totally agree with you 100 %

[Farley4Fan]

If people get another name they are obviously not going to talk shit anymore so you don't suspect them.  So, there is nothing to worry about.  Unless they are cheating or glitching, that is the only real problem I can see with smurfing.

[Westfall]

Regardless win or loss , my argument about the whole Anti-smurfing , it just makes me sick that people as papa was saying , talk shit and hide behind different names to cover their ass.. weither people realize it or not , gaming is turning into a sport , and with that being said I expect good sportsman ship from all players.

Take your own advice.

[Guggle]

Well, first, it's easy for you to say all that stuff about smurfing, because you have the unkickable bug, you hypocrite. Second, do you really think you are impacting this discussion with your little "I've defeated you more times than how many fingers and toes you have"? All you are telling me, is that, I shouldn't take you off my friends list when you win, but you should when I win. You reek with hypocrisy.

[InvisibleMan999]

Anonymity is just a fact of the internet and we have to get used to it. 

[frvge]

Anonymity is just a fact of the internet and we have to get used to it. 

Nice.