Suggestions for PS

[Tidenburg]

Thats because its a way to win. If people want to kill all the mercs for a win then I say go for it, it's usually harder to do than hacking a terminal (in my experience at least) so whatever technique suites you best. I think you need to stop thinking your way of playing is the only way 1337 players play gawain. Just because they kill to win, doesn't make them a noob.

[Gawain]

Thats because its a way to win. If people want to kill all the mercs for a win then I say go for it, it's usually harder to do than hacking a terminal (in my experience at least) so whatever technique suites you best. I think you need to stop thinking your way of playing is the only way 1337 players play gawain. Just because they kill to win, doesn't make them a noob.

killing the mercs should be even harder than playing 100% stealth. the mix of stealth and action is what makes this game so great. if you manage to kill a merc with good teamwork or because he did a major mistake in the fist place, i'm totally ok with it. but the main goal should always be the objectives. the funny thing is that there are some noobs quite decent at getting grabs/quickcams etc but they never manage to take advantage of that situation and get an objective.

how about actually reading what i write before flaming me for no reason?
killing the mercs and winning is quite hard (unless on a crappy server with host advantage), heck the only players i know that play a deathmatch style in story mode at competitive level are havoc+weezer.

[Tidenburg]

OK, sorry. Just to point out though I wasn't flaming you at all, just point out a fact ;D

[Hyrage]

Thats because its a way to win. If people want to kill all the mercs for a win then I say go for it, it's usually harder to do than hacking a terminal (in my experience at least) so whatever technique suites you best. I think you need to stop thinking your way of playing is the only way 1337 players play gawain. Just because they kill to win, doesn't make them a noob.

killing the mercs should be even harder than playing 100% stealth. the mix of stealth and action is what makes this game so great. if you manage to kill a merc with good teamwork or because he did a major mistake in the fist place, i'm totally ok with it. but the main goal should always be the objectives. the funny thing is that there are some noobs quite decent at getting grabs/quickcams etc but they never manage to take advantage of that situation and get an objective.

how about actually reading what i write before flaming me for no reason?
killing the mercs and winning is quite hard (unless on a crappy server with host advantage), heck the only players i know that play a deathmatch style in story mode at competitive level are havoc+weezer.

No reason to flame anyone here anyway ^^

[Farley4Fan]

killing the mercs should be even harder than playing 100% stealth. the mix of stealth and action is what makes this game so great. if you manage to kill a merc with good teamwork or because he did a major mistake in the fist place, i'm totally ok with it. but the main goal should always be the objectives. the funny thing is that there are some noobs quite decent at getting grabs/quickcams etc but they never manage to take advantage of that situation and get an objective.

Lol, absofreakinlutely!  :D  Once my partner managed to kill both mercs and was right by hangar at polar base (one objective to go) while I was on the other side of the map.  He didn't hack hangar.  He ran back up to the merc's spawn and attempted to kill them again.  We never played together after that. >:(

[Hyrage]

Well... the wrong partner lol. ::)

[Westfall]

Thats because its a way to win. If people want to kill all the mercs for a win then I say go for it, it's usually harder to do than hacking a terminal (in my experience at least) so whatever technique suites you best. I think you need to stop thinking your way of playing is the only way 1337 players play gawain. Just because they kill to win, doesn't make them a noob.

killing the mercs should be even harder than playing 100% stealth. the mix of stealth and action is what makes this game so great. if you manage to kill a merc with good teamwork or because he did a major mistake in the fist place, i'm totally ok with it. but the main goal should always be the objectives. the funny thing is that there are some noobs quite decent at getting grabs/quickcams etc but they never manage to take advantage of that situation and get an objective.

how about actually reading what i write before flaming me for no reason?
killing the mercs and winning is quite hard (unless on a crappy server with host advantage), heck the only players i know that play a deathmatch style in story mode at competitive level are havoc+weezer.

Havoc and Weezer didn't play deathmatch style. They reinforced the idea of aggro as spies and they were quite nasty at it. As of today, any good spy will play with stealth + an aggro if its necessary. Obviously you try and stay as quiet as possible throughout, but causing a rucuss out of no where is quite the strategy. Especially when the merc think theres 2 of you, though 1 spy bolted to a completely different room.

[Hyrage]

Thats because its a way to win. If people want to kill all the mercs for a win then I say go for it, it's usually harder to do than hacking a terminal (in my experience at least) so whatever technique suites you best. I think you need to stop thinking your way of playing is the only way 1337 players play gawain. Just because they kill to win, doesn't make them a noob.

killing the mercs should be even harder than playing 100% stealth. the mix of stealth and action is what makes this game so great. if you manage to kill a merc with good teamwork or because he did a major mistake in the fist place, i'm totally ok with it. but the main goal should always be the objectives. the funny thing is that there are some noobs quite decent at getting grabs/quickcams etc but they never manage to take advantage of that situation and get an objective.

how about actually reading what i write before flaming me for no reason?
killing the mercs and winning is quite hard (unless on a crappy server with host advantage), heck the only players i know that play a deathmatch style in story mode at competitive level are havoc+weezer.

Havoc and Weezer didn't play deathmatch style. They reinforced the idea of aggro as spies and they were quite nasty at it. As of today, any good spy will play with stealth + an aggro if its necessary. Obviously you try and stay as quiet as possible throughout, but causing a rucuss out of no where is quite the strategy. Especially when the merc think theres 2 of you, though 1 spy bolted to a completely different room.

Isn't it a.. ninja?  :o

[Westfall]

Thats because its a way to win. If people want to kill all the mercs for a win then I say go for it, it's usually harder to do than hacking a terminal (in my experience at least) so whatever technique suites you best. I think you need to stop thinking your way of playing is the only way 1337 players play gawain. Just because they kill to win, doesn't make them a noob.

killing the mercs should be even harder than playing 100% stealth. the mix of stealth and action is what makes this game so great. if you manage to kill a merc with good teamwork or because he did a major mistake in the fist place, i'm totally ok with it. but the main goal should always be the objectives. the funny thing is that there are some noobs quite decent at getting grabs/quickcams etc but they never manage to take advantage of that situation and get an objective.

how about actually reading what i write before flaming me for no reason?
killing the mercs and winning is quite hard (unless on a crappy server with host advantage), heck the only players i know that play a deathmatch style in story mode at competitive level are havoc+weezer.

Havoc and Weezer didn't play deathmatch style. They reinforced the idea of aggro as spies and they were quite nasty at it. As of today, any good spy will play with stealth + an aggro if its necessary. Obviously you try and stay as quiet as possible throughout, but causing a rucuss out of no where is quite the strategy. Especially when the merc think theres 2 of you, though 1 spy bolted to a completely different room.

Isn't it a.. ninja?  :o

You are becoming wiser. This should be Ninja Stealth...or Project Ninja..lol j/k

[Farley4Fan]

Every good spy will try to stay hidden as a priority but will have to become aggressive at a few points in a match.  But then again, that is just one way to be successful.  Havoc/weezer proved you could be good with 0 stealth.

[BurningDeath]

play a deathmatch style in story mode at competitive level are havoc+weezer.

Umm ... no.

[Cyntrox]

6. A few little details like when the spy is walking in the water, his footsteps are marked by water on the ground would had a lot of immersion.

They may be small details, but they could have a huge impact on balance.

Adding what you said would mean that if there is a camnet cam watching over a pool of water, the spies practically can't move there at all without having their location made obvious.

[Farley4Fan]

If the cam was watching the pool of water that the spy was in then it would see the spy anyways.  Regardless of whether the spy moved or not.

[Cyntrox]

The footsteps would remain for a longer time than the spy would, hence giving the merc using camnet a bigger chance of detecting the spy, depending on how long the footsteps stays.

[Succubus Dryad Of The Undying Comet]

The spies should take toweld with them on missions so this doesn't happen :P