Diversified Mines

Started by AgentX_003, February 18, 2008, 03:14:08 AM

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Farley4Fan

Lol, give them time to program AI then.  :D

If that would be possible, omg, so awesome.  Even though it might tweak the gameplay too much.  I know you were kidding but whatever.

Succubus Dryad Of The Undying Comet

Quote from: Papa Skull on February 19, 2008, 07:04:10 AM
I know you were kidding but whatever.
I wasn't. It would take some serious time to make, but hopefully it could be balanced with mines, eg. if you take mines + robo-spider you only have 3 mines of 5 possible, and you can only plant 2 at a time.
Otherwise it would be normal, 5mines + 3 planted.
The other thing would be how many can be run simultaneusly (spelling??). I say one per merc, but that's a subject of balance, so i'll just stfu.

Farley4Fan

Serious time indeed.  I'm not a dev so I wouldn't know, but that's what I'm guessing.

Daybreak

I liked GoldenEye proxmines. You could throw them. Why not have that ability, then you could throw them onto anything almost anywhere. It would make the ability to move slowly on poles and climbing mandatory and not set the mines off. I wouldn't mind running into a mine in a vent. Hell, you run into enough coming out of them, why not just be careful every where. That's the reason why time travel is impossible. The end.

Ion.67

Why the hell would you even want robo spiders?

Farley4Fan

I thought it was a joke myself.

NO to throwing mines.  Then you could put them places, I don't even care to explain, think about it yourselves.  Throwing them up in vents and such is bad, mmkay?

Westfall

Quote from: Daybreak on February 19, 2008, 11:04:58 PM
I liked GoldenEye proxmines. You could throw them. Why not have that ability, then you could throw them onto anything almost anywhere. It would make the ability to move slowly on poles and climbing mandatory and not set the mines off. I wouldn't mind running into a mine in a vent. Hell, you run into enough coming out of them, why not just be careful every where. That's the reason why time travel is impossible. The end.

I actually like the idea. Maybe as an alternate? They were quite useful.

Farley4Fan

Useful in Goldeneye, probably overpowered in a game like PS, CT, PT, or any SvM game depending on how exactly it's implemented.  One downfall to planting mines is that it disables you for a bit until you plant it, and you have your back turned.  If you could throw mines you could just run around full speed tossin mines everywhere.  No thanks.

Cyntrox

Goldeneye has a way faster pace, therefore throwing mines is balanced there.

psyichic

Also thrown mines would make it impossible for spies to remove them if they were stuck to a ceiling short of shooting them off and raising attention. I say keep it the way it is.

InvisibleMan999

Quote from: Cyntrox on February 20, 2008, 08:19:50 AM
Goldeneye has a way faster pace, therefore throwing mines is balanced there.

I don't even think it was balanced there. Remote mines were semi-balanced, the prox mine duels were just a matter of whoever wanted to start wandering around the level and get killed. If you were playing a 4 player deathmatch, it was basically impossible to even see them.

As far as launchable mines in PS, the big problem becomes how the spy would end up disarming them. I suppose if they always had to go on the floor, it wouldn't be bad. because a spy can always get to it. But putting them on ceilings or above the spy's reach in a room would be really cheesy. It's okay to have a few points like this on a map where people can memorize them, but being able to put them on any wall anywhere, would be crazy.

But I think a launched proxy that looks similar to a frag but doesn't explode immediately could work. The main disadvantage of launched mines is that they'd be very obvious sitting in the middle of the floor, but they'd be quicker to place. Still it's a lot better to set up a mine on the wall around a corner as opposed to just having it sit out in the open. You couldn't get a great amount of precision from the launcher if it worked the same as the frag launcher does now. So long as we've got slow animations and falling doesn't immediately set them off, we should be ok.

MulleDK19

Quote from: Liqu1D_133 on February 19, 2008, 02:46:33 AM
Quote from: Tidenburg on February 19, 2008, 01:38:16 AM
QuoteThat would be totally OP. Totally. And i mean it.
Quote from: Tidenburg on February 18, 2008, 10:50:55 PM
I want to be able to launch mines with my gun to liek totally stickzor them in teh vents!
50rRy, I t0ta11y th0uGh7 7hA7 7h3 1337 5p3Ak gAv3 aWay 7hA7 i wA5 83inG 5aRca57iC. ;)
WHAT THE F*CK?? I only understood the emoticon there...
How about having some kind of robo-spiders that could walk around one specific room when released, and when they spot any thermal signs in front of them, they raise an alarm and lock-down the room?? That would be pure awesome, though there should be a huge nerf to something in this idea...

LOOL!

I understood it all, and I read it like I read normal text -.-


Quote50rRy, I t0ta11y th0uGh7 7hA7 7h3 1337 5p3Ak gAv3 aWay 7hA7 i wA5 83inG 5aRca57iC.
Sorry, I totally thought that the 1337 speak gave away that I was being sarcastic.

If my heart ever heals, I will make sure it'll never break again.

Hyrage

Quote from: MulleDK13 on February 24, 2008, 12:25:28 PM
Quote from: Liqu1D_133 on February 19, 2008, 02:46:33 AM
Quote from: Tidenburg on February 19, 2008, 01:38:16 AM
QuoteThat would be totally OP. Totally. And i mean it.
Quote from: Tidenburg on February 18, 2008, 10:50:55 PM
I want to be able to launch mines with my gun to liek totally stickzor them in teh vents!
50rRy, I t0ta11y th0uGh7 7hA7 7h3 1337 5p3Ak gAv3 aWay 7hA7 i wA5 83inG 5aRca57iC. ;)
WHAT THE F*CK?? I only understood the emoticon there...
How about having some kind of robo-spiders that could walk around one specific room when released, and when they spot any thermal signs in front of them, they raise an alarm and lock-down the room?? That would be pure awesome, though there should be a huge nerf to something in this idea...

LOOL!

I understood it all, and I read it like I read normal text -.-


Quote50rRy, I t0ta11y th0uGh7 7hA7 7h3 1337 5p3Ak gAv3 aWay 7hA7 i wA5 83inG 5aRca57iC.
Sorry, I totally thought that the 1337 speak gave away that I was being sarcastic.
1337 = leet?
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Cyntrox

Quote from: HBW_Hyrage on February 24, 2008, 03:41:23 PM
Quote from: MulleDK13 on February 24, 2008, 12:25:28 PM
Quote from: Liqu1D_133 on February 19, 2008, 02:46:33 AM
Quote from: Tidenburg on February 19, 2008, 01:38:16 AM
QuoteThat would be totally OP. Totally. And i mean it.
Quote from: Tidenburg on February 18, 2008, 10:50:55 PM
I want to be able to launch mines with my gun to liek totally stickzor them in teh vents!
50rRy, I t0ta11y th0uGh7 7hA7 7h3 1337 5p3Ak gAv3 aWay 7hA7 i wA5 83inG 5aRca57iC. ;)
WHAT THE F*CK?? I only understood the emoticon there...
How about having some kind of robo-spiders that could walk around one specific room when released, and when they spot any thermal signs in front of them, they raise an alarm and lock-down the room?? That would be pure awesome, though there should be a huge nerf to something in this idea...

LOOL!

I understood it all, and I read it like I read normal text -.-


Quote50rRy, I t0ta11y th0uGh7 7hA7 7h3 1337 5p3Ak gAv3 aWay 7hA7 i wA5 83inG 5aRca57iC.
Sorry, I totally thought that the 1337 speak gave away that I was being sarcastic.
1337 = leet?
1337 = elite

Tidenburg

Sheesh how do these people even survive on the internet without knowing any 1337 speak?! Seriously guys, urban dictionary is your friend!