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Title: My Sketchbook
Post by: tigaer on April 23, 2010, 04:34:53 PM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v358/tigaer/Concept_Art_4_23_10.jpg)

2-3 hours of work with my new TX2. First time trying to draw something like this. Gonna try and do a new 40-70 min sketch every day.
Title: Re: Speedpaint
Post by: Succubus Dryad Of The Undying Comet on April 23, 2010, 04:44:06 PM
Neat. I'm wondering if I should take out my Bamboo.
Title: Re: Speedpaint
Post by: tigaer on April 24, 2010, 02:22:35 PM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v358/tigaer/Speedpainting_4_24_10.jpg)

Another.
Title: Re: Speedpaint
Post by: Farley4Fan on April 25, 2010, 12:35:31 AM
You couldn't have put these in my thread?  Now my photoshop thread is destined to die. 

 :'(

Cool drawings though man.  I especially like the first one.
Title: Re: Speedpaint
Post by: AgentX_003 on April 25, 2010, 02:56:30 AM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v358/tigaer/Speedpainting_4_24_10.jpg)

Another.

No one has caught on so it seems but to me this looks like concept art for perhaps some levels to come xD
Title: Re: Speedpaint
Post by: tigaer on April 25, 2010, 11:09:26 AM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v358/tigaer/Speedpainting_4_24_10.jpg)

Another.

No one has caught on so it seems but to me this looks like concept art for perhaps some levels to come xD

;)
Title: Re: Speedpaint
Post by: Gawain on April 25, 2010, 05:56:29 PM
i like how you keep geometry simple and play around with the lightning. athmosphere is all about lightning :D
i got a wacom laying around and kinda am in the mood to fool around a little bit again.
which programm would you suggest for landscape/architecture speedpainting and maybe some manga?
so far i've only painted with corel painter. still gotta get used to not seeing what i paint where i paint it xD
Title: Re: Speedpaint
Post by: Succubus Dryad Of The Undying Comet on April 25, 2010, 07:19:08 PM
I'd say PhotoShop, but since I'm on linux I'm using Gimp.
It doesn't make much of a difference, really. It's all in what interface you like more, and what you can afford.
Title: Re: Speedpaint
Post by: Farley4Fan on April 25, 2010, 10:01:28 PM
The second pic looks like concept art for a mix of club house and museum.  The long hallways of Club mixed with the look of museum.  The columns separated from the wall kind of look like Museum.
Title: Re: Speedpaint
Post by: tigaer on April 26, 2010, 02:26:24 PM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v358/tigaer/Speedpainting_4_26_10.jpg)

Small thumbnail to get the overall look of a much bigger concept piece I'm going to be working on for the next few weeks. As for a program, I've been using Photoshop for over 8 years, and always will.
Title: Re: Speedpaint
Post by: Gawain on April 26, 2010, 07:37:20 PM
what resolution do you suggest to paint on?
Title: Re: Speedpaint
Post by: tigaer on April 26, 2010, 08:12:36 PM
what resolution do you suggest to paint on?

For a small speedy, I do 900x600, but for a more elaborate one like the one I'm doing currently, I do 3200x1800. I like wide angle shots the best as you can do much more with your perspective.
Title: Re: Speedpaint
Post by: Succubus Dryad Of The Undying Comet on April 26, 2010, 08:26:50 PM
2 questions:
1. How do you pull up this perspective grid?
2. Do you start from a rough sketch or do you just throw on the colours?

I've got my Bamboo a long time ago and damn I haven't painted anything serious.
Title: Re: Speedpaint
Post by: tigaer on April 26, 2010, 09:58:16 PM
2 questions:
1. How do you pull up this perspective grid?
2. Do you start from a rough sketch or do you just throw on the colours?

I've got my Bamboo a long time ago and damn I haven't painted anything serious.

I created my own perspective grids in Illustrator, then just open the eps file in Photoshop at the size I need. I have 1, 2 and 3 point grids so I always have what I need. They took a few hours to make, but it's invaluble for me to have them.

I usually start with a rough line sketch, then start coloring over the linework untill I get a good color scheme, and progressively adding more detail as I go.
Title: Re: Speedpaint
Post by: Succubus Dryad Of The Undying Comet on April 26, 2010, 10:35:30 PM
I created my own perspective grids in Illustrator, then just open the eps file in Photoshop at the size I need. I have 1, 2 and 3 point grids so I always have what I need. They took a few hours to make, but it's invaluble for me to have them.

I usually start with a rough line sketch, then start coloring over the linework untill I get a good color scheme, and progressively adding more detail as I go.
Hehehe. Yeah, I was looking up some way to pull up perspective grids but it seems there isn't one. It's a pain in the arse to do all of the perspective by hand.
Title: Re: Speedpaint
Post by: tigaer on April 29, 2010, 01:25:04 PM
AH! Base render for my concept piece. Worth noting that this is my first ever 3D model. I'm proud.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v358/tigaer/BaseRender.jpg)

Now the fun begins.
Title: Re: Speedpaint
Post by: Gawain on April 29, 2010, 04:01:50 PM
which program did you use for modelling and rendering this?
Title: Re: Speedpaint
Post by: tigaer on April 29, 2010, 04:21:03 PM
3DS Max.
Title: Re: Speedpaint
Post by: tigaer on May 02, 2010, 12:25:05 AM
Maybe this will turn into a nice walkthrough, cause I'll try to update it with progress pics as I go.

Progress,
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v358/tigaer/Speedpainting_4_26_10-1.jpg)

Detail shot,
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v358/tigaer/Speedpainting_4_26_10-2.jpg)

These pipes are killing me lol but I have to get them done first to light the rest of the scene right.
Title: Re: Speedpaint
Post by: Farley4Fan on May 02, 2010, 12:46:36 AM
Cool stuff.
Title: Re: Speedpaint
Post by: goodkebab on May 02, 2010, 12:49:23 AM
I suggest rendering in a similar way to how 3d software renders.

It will help you break things down into easier segments.
Title: Re: Speedpaint
Post by: tigaer on May 02, 2010, 01:14:13 AM
I suggest rendering in a similar way to how 3d software renders.

It will help you break things down into easier segments.

You mean breaking the painting down into pieces? What I'm doing now is I layed the basic colors down, and now I'm working on the pipes, then I'll work on the sewer area, then the building texture, and doing lighting on everything as I go, detailing will be last.

If not, what do you mean?
Title: Re: Speedpaint
Post by: goodkebab on May 02, 2010, 05:46:49 PM
break it down like this:

Diffuse Pass -self shadowing and accurate light sources of final concept.  Its just a grey scale render.
Spec/Reflection pass  -all the shiny bits

Color Pass-  just the flat color maps without any shadow or light

Shadow Pass.

At the Diffuse Pass,  you just need paint in grey scale and get the composition and lighting correct.

Multiply a Color layer on top of this to give the scene the basic texture it needs.
Use linear dodge layer for all Spec and Reflections for shiny parts
And shadow pass.


Its not the traditional way for paint,  but its very similar.   Its a commmon technique to do a grey scale painting,  and then add tints of color on top and the final stage is the specular and shadows.

The method teaches you to break it down to the basics at the diffuse stage without worrying about the tedious details. 



Title: Re: Speedpaint
Post by: tigaer on May 02, 2010, 09:37:41 PM
Thanks a lot for the tips man. I usually lay the basic color scheme I want down, then recolor it at the end to be exactly how I imagined it. For some reason, I don't like laying down a painting in grayscale first, I like to play with colors a lot while I draw.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v358/tigaer/Speedpainting_3_2_10.jpg)

30 min speedie.
Title: Re: Speedpaint
Post by: Succubus Dryad Of The Undying Comet on May 02, 2010, 10:34:26 PM
The yellow is awkward. It should be a very thin line, just so you know it's there, but can't actually see it clearly. It'd look way better.
Title: Re: Speedpaint
Post by: tigaer on May 03, 2010, 12:29:40 AM
I agree. Looking at it now, I don't like the lower beach area. I might be fix it later, but it was just a quick speedie so it's not a big deal. It's really just a mood piece.
Title: Re: Speedpaint
Post by: Farley4Fan on May 03, 2010, 05:07:11 AM
Maybe you should put the mountain's shadow on the lake, or a reflection of some kind.
Title: Re: Speedpaint
Post by: tigaer on May 03, 2010, 05:43:01 AM
Maybe you should put the mountain's shadow on the lake, or a reflection of some kind.

Good point. lol
Title: Re: Speedpaint
Post by: goodkebab on May 03, 2010, 05:57:12 PM
If the image doesnt work in greyscale,  its not going to work in color (hence the simplifiction of the process)
Title: Re: Speedpaint
Post by: Farley4Fan on May 03, 2010, 09:38:37 PM
Maybe you should put the mountain's shadow on the lake, or a reflection of some kind.

Good point. lol

Yeah it seems like the lighting is a little off.  Make it lighter at the left side of the lake and darker at the right side.  I dig the colors and the drawing though man, looks great.
Title: Re: Speedpaint
Post by: tigaer on May 11, 2010, 02:49:17 AM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v358/tigaer/Speedpainting_5_10_10.jpg)

Eh.
Title: Re: Speedpaint
Post by: Farley4Fan on May 11, 2010, 06:21:56 AM
That's tight man.  But give me cococococonuts!
Title: Re: Speedpaint
Post by: tigaer on May 11, 2010, 06:46:57 AM
Haha I had them in, but ended up scrapping them cause they didn't match the mood at all.
Title: Re: Speedpaint
Post by: Gawain on May 11, 2010, 12:09:00 PM
true art is scrapping the right things...
now get me a pina-colada you nasty teaser ;P
Title: Re: Speedpaint
Post by: Farley4Fan on May 11, 2010, 09:30:49 PM
Yeah but he scrapped the wrong things...

(http://www.scenicreflections.com/ithumbs/milton_wallpaper_215.jpg)

I said no salt, NOOO salt!
Title: Re: Speedpaint
Post by: Succubus Dryad Of The Undying Comet on May 28, 2010, 08:52:52 AM
So, pretty neat. Thanks to tigaer i pulled out my tablet, but since I'm on linux and the Gimp sucks, i fooled around with myPaint. It's pretty awesome. It's a... 1-1,5 hours job, not finished, and I know it will never be. I expect much constructive criticism. Much. TIA

(http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/8628/scrollcrypt.png)
Yes I do realise that about half of the picture is empty, and that the perspective is screwed like a screw. I wish I had more skill and imagination.
Title: Re: Speedpaint
Post by: Farley4Fan on May 28, 2010, 06:37:50 PM
What part of "NOOO Salt!" don't you understand?  It looks like it's sprinkled with salt.

I like your drawing but it's too salty.
Title: Re: Speedpaint
Post by: comicsserg on May 28, 2010, 07:11:56 PM
I don't get what it is  ???
Title: Re: Speedpaint
Post by: Succubus Dryad Of The Undying Comet on May 28, 2010, 08:19:11 PM
Me neither. It was supposed to be a fountain, but then grew into a cursed scroll-holder, and then i wanted to add a tomb underneath, and I didn't paint the water flowing from the hole in the middle. Also there was supposed to be a cyclops in the background that's reaching for the scroll, you can see the general torso position, and it stayed there because i was painting on 1 layer.
Anyone want to give me free painting lessons or tips?
(yes I know there are tons of tutorials, but I don't know which part of the things i draw/paint is the worst, so pointing that out would help, too.)
Title: Re: Speedpaint
Post by: Farley4Fan on May 28, 2010, 09:24:40 PM
It's the Scroll of the Tomb of the Succubus Dryad of the Undying Comet
Title: Re: Speedpaint
Post by: Succubus Dryad Of The Undying Comet on May 28, 2010, 10:02:53 PM
It's the Scroll of the Tomb of the Fountain of the Succubus Dryad of the Undying Comet
fix'd
Title: Re: Speedpaint
Post by: Farley4Fan on May 28, 2010, 10:25:03 PM
There's a fountain?
Title: Re: Speedpaint
Post by: Succubus Dryad Of The Undying Comet on May 28, 2010, 10:35:05 PM
Yes, but it's dry.
Title: Re: Speedpaint
Post by: Farley4Fan on May 29, 2010, 02:06:55 AM
So, The Scroll of the Tomb of the Dry Fountain of the Succubus Dryad of the Undying Comet?
Title: Re: Speedpaint
Post by: tigaer on May 29, 2010, 02:14:34 AM
So, The Scroll of the Tomb of the Volcano Eel by the Dry Fountain of the Succubus Dryad of the Undying Comet?

Fixed.
Title: Re: Speedpaint
Post by: MulleDK19 on May 29, 2010, 02:53:07 AM
So, pretty neat. Thanks to tigaer i pulled out my tablet, but since I'm on linux and the Gimp sucks, i fooled around with myPaint. It's pretty awesome. It's a... 1-1,5 hours job, not finished, and I know it will never be. I expect much constructive criticism. Much. TIA

*IMAGE*
Yes I do realise that about half of the picture is empty, and that the perspective is screwed like a screw. I wish I had more skill and imagination.

Holy shit. A holy rolling pin!
Title: Re: Speedpaint
Post by: Farley4Fan on May 29, 2010, 03:45:30 AM
Don't say his rolling pin is shit.
Title: Re: Speedpaint
Post by: Succubus Dryad Of The Undying Comet on May 29, 2010, 09:12:59 AM
It could be shit. I don't know, I never went closer to it than now.
Title: Re: Speedpaint
Post by: Succubus Dryad Of The Undying Comet on May 30, 2010, 01:24:57 AM
Tigaer, could you please upload your perspective grids somewhere?
I've been searching for some for two hours now, with no luck.
TIA
Title: Re: Speedpaint
Post by: tigaer on May 30, 2010, 01:41:21 AM
http://www.filefront.com/16590493/Perspective%20Grid.eps
Title: Re: Speedpaint
Post by: Gawain on May 30, 2010, 03:41:43 AM
adobe illustrator cs5 got some nice new 3d sketching features with a grid like this, maybe it could come in handy...
Title: Re: Speedpaint
Post by: Succubus Dryad Of The Undying Comet on May 30, 2010, 08:15:02 AM
Thanks alot, tigaer. You're a great man.
Title: Re: Speedpaint
Post by: tigaer on May 30, 2010, 09:46:22 AM
@Rambo
Yeah man, I gotta check that out. Thanks for the heads up. I just got CS5 a couple days ago.

@Succubus Dryad Of The Undying Comet
No problem bro, glad I could help.

Anyway, here's a small update on the concept art piece I'm doing. I ended up restarting on it from the old update because I wasn't liking the way it was looking. I also took kebabs advice and am starting from grayscale to get the values correct.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v358/tigaer/ConceptArt_PS.jpg)
Title: Re: Speedpaint
Post by: Succubus Dryad Of The Undying Comet on May 30, 2010, 10:03:29 AM
Looks good. Damn I've got to learn so much, and practice even more before I am able to paint sth like this ::)
Anyway, gj.
Title: Re: Speedpaint
Post by: Farley4Fan on May 30, 2010, 06:55:09 PM
But what about rolling pins?
Title: Re: Speedpaint
Post by: Succubus Dryad Of The Undying Comet on May 30, 2010, 09:43:45 PM
I can paint rolling pins no problem. Do you want some?
Title: Re: Speedpaint
Post by: Farley4Fan on May 30, 2010, 10:13:52 PM
Yes.   :-[
Title: Re: Speedpaint
Post by: goodkebab on May 31, 2010, 10:12:28 AM
special note,   surfaces that are emitting bright light,  will not reflect light at the same time.  Just look at a lightbulb,  you wont see any reflections.

If you want it to have both,  reflective and emission....then the light will need to be extremely weak and as a result will not illuminate the environment.

Title: Re: Speedpaint
Post by: tigaer on May 31, 2010, 10:26:42 AM
special note,   surfaces that are emitting bright light,  will not reflect light at the same time.  Just look at a lightbulb,  you wont see any reflections.

If you want it to have both,  reflective and emission....then the light will need to be extremely weak and as a result will not illuminate the environment.



Well these aren't exactly emitting light. These are tubes of water, and the tubes are being lit from lights that will be on the metal support bars at the top, which are outside of the tubes, so it would in turn be reflective to the lights around it. So the tubes themselves don't emit any actual light.

Also, the glass isn't the only thing reflecting, as the water inside the tubes will be moving thus refracting the light around it.
Title: Re: Speedpaint
Post by: Succubus Dryad Of The Undying Comet on May 31, 2010, 10:40:55 AM
Damn. That's pretty awesome graphics for a SvM map.
Title: Re: Speedpaint
Post by: Farley4Fan on June 01, 2010, 05:30:00 AM
Unlockable style filter ftw
Title: Re: Speedpaint
Post by: goodkebab on June 01, 2010, 08:58:42 AM
special note,   surfaces that are emitting bright light,  will not reflect light at the same time.  Just look at a lightbulb,  you wont see any reflections.

If you want it to have both,  reflective and emission....then the light will need to be extremely weak and as a result will not illuminate the environment.



Well these aren't exactly emitting light. These are tubes of water, and the tubes are being lit from lights that will be on the metal support bars at the top, which are outside of the tubes, so it would in turn be reflective to the lights around it. So the tubes themselves don't emit any actual light.

Also, the glass isn't the only thing reflecting, as the water inside the tubes will be moving thus refracting the light around it.

kk,  As you have painted it....the water is emitting the light.  Water in a tube does not reflect anything,  it is 100% invisible....and only bends the light slightly. The bubbles and particles in the water will  reflect light. Same for glass,  light will pass through it, and only bend a bit.  The reflection it self, will never be brighter then the light source ...and the more transparent the glass gets,  the less reflective it it will appear.

read up on "Fresnel" and "Index of Refraction"

What this means, in terms of your painting is that the glass and water should have exactly the same tonal values  and gradations as the objects behind it,  and for a reflection,  use very sharp and crisp highlights using the same value as the light source.
Title: Re: Speedpaint
Post by: tigaer on June 01, 2010, 09:11:18 AM
Thanks for the tips. I'll be painting some darker values in there, as well as the rest of tubing that should be visible behind each row to make them seem more transparent and glass-like.

The water will be blue, due to the chemicals they put in them. I don't wanna spoil the maps theme, so I won't say any more about the creepy water. lol.

(http://www.thewatersofisis.com/isis/www.watersofisis.com/sites/default/files/pdf/Test%20Tube.jpg)

Something like that, but I'm over exaggerating the specular for artistic reasons.
Title: Re: Speedpaint
Post by: Farley4Fan on June 01, 2010, 09:08:31 PM
It took me a second to realize that the person was wearing gloves.  I was wondering why the fingernails were so weird looking.  haha
Title: Re: Speedpaint
Post by: Succubus Dryad Of The Undying Comet on June 01, 2010, 09:50:57 PM
It took me a second to realize that the person was wearing gloves.  I was wondering why the fingernails were so weird looking.  haha
I didn't realise until you pointed it out.
I guess I concentrrated on the way the light reflects.
Title: Re: Speedpaint
Post by: tigaer on June 09, 2010, 01:04:20 AM
Worked on it a little more today. Really just tried to get the buildings looking interesting.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v358/tigaer/Speedpainting_4_26_1033.jpg)
Title: Re: Speedpaint
Post by: Cronky on June 09, 2010, 02:01:41 AM
On Topic:

I like the way your picture is progressing. Slowly getting more and more of the feeling of a real place. At first I thought it was going to be some sewage place.

Then you started getting the light all up in the tubes, moving it into a kind of Science-esque Facility.

Now it's all in perspective (As in I can actually tell heights) and seems like some kind of hidden base. Like some underground company that is attempting weird scientific experiments. (The Chemical kind, not the... Zombie, Oh mah gawd it got out; lets kill it with fire, kind.

Pretty sweet stuff.

Off-topic:

I find your Sig picture a little odd. (Not that it's bad or anything, or that you should change it) How you are pointing out PS to the people who have undoubtedly already seen it, or have ventured through the mainpage to find the forums.

It's minor and again not bad in any sense. Just strikes me as Odd.
Title: Re: Speedpaint
Post by: tigaer on June 09, 2010, 02:13:08 AM
Thanks bro. You basically got the concept of the map dead on. Good job. I can already see that my perspective is fucked in the top right of the back building compared to the pipes. Haha I'll fix that next time I work on it.

And my sig; Yeah, I use it in other forums and thought it looked pretty sweet lol. Think of it as a teaser for the games UI. It's all glitched up and everything to not spoil too much. ;)
Title: Re: Speedpaint
Post by: Farley4Fan on June 09, 2010, 02:49:27 AM
Haha I've clicked on your sig expecting some new media that we haven't seen.  lol  Back to main page.

Also, the little ramp leg things underneath what looks like the half-life symbol, I think the lighting is a little off.  Looks awesome tigaer.
Title: Re: Speedpaint
Post by: AgentX_003 on June 09, 2010, 06:07:23 AM
Haha I've clicked on your sig expecting some new media that we haven't seen.  lol  Back to main page.

Also, the little ramp leg things underneath what looks like the half-life symbol, I think the lighting is a little off.  Looks awesome tigaer.

thats what i said xD !
Title: Re: Speedpaint
Post by: LennardF1989 on June 09, 2010, 10:14:45 AM
Took you guys long enough to figure out it's a distorted teaser of the new UI.... It's been there for, what, 3 weeks?
Title: Re: Speedpaint
Post by: Gawain on June 09, 2010, 01:34:10 PM
hidden media releases like that look like a fun option to me. what about a monthly contest to find and identify hidden content?
Title: Re: Speedpaint
Post by: Farley4Fan on June 09, 2010, 05:33:32 PM
Took you guys long enough to figure out it's a distorted teaser of the new UI.... It's been there for, what, 3 weeks?

It is? 
Title: Re: Speedpaint
Post by: tigaer on June 09, 2010, 07:48:26 PM
Took you guys long enough to figure out it's a distorted teaser of the new UI.... It's been there for, what, 3 weeks?

Hahah I know dude. I was expecting them to catch on within a couple days.
And yes, it'd pretty much a distorted screenshot, only slightly edited to hold the text beter.
;)
Title: Re: Speedpaint
Post by: Farley4Fan on June 09, 2010, 09:25:34 PM
Ooohh....  I likey.
Title: Re: Speedpaint
Post by: tigaer on June 11, 2010, 12:46:12 AM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v358/tigaer/Speedy_6_10_10.jpg)

30 min.
Title: Re: Speedpaint
Post by: Gawain on June 11, 2010, 02:06:20 AM
do you start with a black or white background?
Title: Re: Speedpaint
Post by: tigaer on June 11, 2010, 04:10:45 AM
For that one I started with a really dark grey, then used a brighter grey as a base for the shapes, then shaded. I usually start with an off white then a dark grey or black for linework though. Brush settings usually stay around 50% opacity, 50% flow and then pressure sens set to size, I only change the flow to around 2%-5% for smoke and clouds. Canvas size was 1920x1080.
Title: Re: Speedpaint
Post by: comicsserg on June 11, 2010, 10:53:30 AM
great work tigaer,
is it you here ? http://my.deviantart.com/messages/#/d2rjz2b
if yes then I'm your watcher (sergbel)
Title: Re: Speedpaint
Post by: damian3k on June 11, 2010, 11:07:21 AM
http://my.deviantart.com/messages/#/d2rjz2b


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Title: Re: Speedpaint
Post by: comicsserg on June 11, 2010, 03:59:08 PM
http://my.deviantart.com/messages/#/d2rjz2b


File Not Found

Sry here is the good one:
http://eclipse-cj3.deviantart.com/#/d2rjz2b
Title: Re: Speedpaint
Post by: tigaer on June 11, 2010, 07:34:45 PM
Yeah, that's me.
Title: Re: My Sketchbook
Post by: tigaer on June 11, 2010, 08:50:34 PM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v358/tigaer/Speedy_6_11_10small.jpg)

Redrew the planet in the background. Wasn't happy with it before.
Title: Re: Speedpaint
Post by: comicsserg on June 11, 2010, 09:15:35 PM
Yeah, that's me.
Nice, I'm your watcher :D great works ;) btw
Title: Re: My Sketchbook
Post by: tigaer on June 11, 2010, 10:11:04 PM
Thanks a lot man. :)
Title: Re: My Sketchbook
Post by: tigaer on June 12, 2010, 09:39:18 PM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v358/tigaer/Speedy_6_12_10-1.jpg)

Around an hour. A futuristic salvage yard.
Title: Re: My Sketchbook
Post by: comicsserg on June 12, 2010, 09:42:21 PM
dude you can draw pretty amazing  :o great work
Title: Re: My Sketchbook
Post by: tigaer on June 12, 2010, 09:44:22 PM
dude you can draw pretty amazing  :o great work

Thanks bro. Means a lot. :)
Title: Re: My Sketchbook
Post by: Gawain on June 13, 2010, 01:35:37 AM
good job.
being able to communicate your artistic ideas that well will help you tremendously in your career ;)
Title: Re: My Sketchbook
Post by: Farley4Fan on June 13, 2010, 02:58:23 AM
Love the junkyard one but I've gotta say that the redrawn planet looks a bit lopsided. 
Title: Re: My Sketchbook
Post by: Gawain on June 13, 2010, 11:52:05 AM
i'm pretty sure the space picture would look better without the redrawn planet at all  ;)
Title: Re: My Sketchbook
Post by: tigaer on June 18, 2010, 07:31:12 AM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v358/tigaer/thumb1.jpg)

I've been pissed off lately and unable to draw shit, so I made this thumbnail.

brb still being pissed and unable to draw.
Title: Re: My Sketchbook
Post by: Farley4Fan on June 18, 2010, 08:09:45 AM
I like it man.  Pretty moody for just a simple thumb.

I've got an idea.  You could get back to work on PS!  No, I joke.

And of course I'm joking.  Why would I want someone who sucks at basic drawing to be working on the HUD of PS?!! 

No, I joke.  Or am I?
Title: Re: My Sketchbook
Post by: tigaer on June 18, 2010, 08:28:33 AM
Fuck you lol.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v358/tigaer/Speedpainting_5_12_10.jpg)

I felt drawing the real thing cause I liked the thumb.

brb still feeling shitty.
Title: Re: My Sketchbook
Post by: Farley4Fan on June 18, 2010, 10:02:59 PM
It has a shadow the colossus/ico type of feel to it.  Small hero, big mysterious world/enemies.  Yeah.  I like it.
Title: Re: My Sketchbook
Post by: tigaer on June 22, 2010, 02:59:51 AM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v358/tigaer/speedy6-21-10.jpg)

Gonna be gone for a week, so I'll probably come back with a few more.
Title: Re: My Sketchbook
Post by: Cronky on June 22, 2010, 03:09:06 AM
You know... When I open Photoshop/Flash/Illustrator/MSPaint I end up with Stick Figures and a mess of Half Drawings.

I've looked at all the pics you've gone and put up here and I have to say...

Daaaaaamn fine work you got here.
Title: Re: My Sketchbook
Post by: tigaer on June 29, 2010, 05:15:23 AM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v358/tigaer/Speedy6-28-10-1.jpg)

like 20 mins from a reference.
Title: Re: My Sketchbook
Post by: Farley4Fan on June 29, 2010, 06:51:50 AM
I know what you were going for.

It's a broken dock, a shattered port.  An icon symbolizing wasted opportunities and lost dreams.  The endless sea of ambiguous possibility is no longer accessible because of one tragic mistake - the decision to not sieze the moment.  Forever will you wonder what could be, what could have been, but never will you be able to know for sure. 

Such a deep picture.  Thank you so much for sharing, Tigaer!
Title: Re: My Sketchbook
Post by: Cronky on June 29, 2010, 07:00:41 AM
I know what you were going for.

It's a broken dock, a shattered port.  An icon symbolizing wasted opportunities and lost dreams.  The endless sea of ambiguous possibility is no longer accessible because of one tragic mistake - the decision to not sieze the moment.  Forever will you wonder what could be, what could have been, but never will you be able to know for sure. 

Such a deep picture.  Thank you so much for sharing, Tigaer!

Ye... Yeah. That's what I was thinking too.

<.<

>.>

 8)
Title: Re: My Sketchbook
Post by: Succubus Dryad Of The Undying Comet on June 29, 2010, 11:37:22 AM
I know what you were going for.

It's a broken dock, a shattered port.  An icon symbolizing wasted opportunities and lost dreams.  The endless sea of ambiguous possibility is no longer accessible because of one tragic mistake - the decision to not sieze the moment.  Forever will you wonder what could be, what could have been, but never will you be able to know for sure. 

Such a deep picture.  Thank you so much for sharing, Tigaer!
No it's just a picture.
Prove me wrong.
Title: Re: My Sketchbook
Post by: Farley4Fan on June 29, 2010, 11:30:45 PM
My palm is now on my face.  Typing with one hand.
Title: Re: My Sketchbook
Post by: tigaer on July 02, 2010, 07:09:44 AM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v358/tigaer/Speedy_7_2_10.jpg)

Worked on this for like an hour tonight, been awhile since I last touched it. I tried a few new techniques and made a few brushes that I'm really liking, so I'll be working on this one more throughout the week.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v358/tigaer/thumbnail01.jpg)

Small thumb of a tunnel system I did in like 5 min to get an idea outta my head.
Title: Re: My Sketchbook
Post by: Kon Artist on July 02, 2010, 08:07:23 AM
i like the tunnel, nice work.
Title: Re: My Sketchbook
Post by: Gawain on July 02, 2010, 10:42:09 PM
very organic
Title: Re: My Sketchbook
Post by: tigaer on July 08, 2010, 09:23:02 AM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v358/tigaer/Speedy_7_8_10.jpg)

Practicing mountains and using some new brushes I made. I likey.
Title: Re: My Sketchbook
Post by: Farley4Fan on July 08, 2010, 09:38:49 AM
(http://webpages.charter.net/tenks/picard.gif)
(http://www.v7n.com/forums/attachments/forum-lobby/7775d1215734467-animated-gif-thread-56k-warning-funny_pictures_animated_funny_baby.gif)
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_rzdB5a4kLAo/RyjPnl7TD1I/AAAAAAAAEQE/fGG_TdJRq-E/s400/heres_willy.gif)

lolololololol i win
Title: Re: My Sketchbook
Post by: VaNilla on July 08, 2010, 10:54:52 PM
That is insane tigaer, looks awesome :)
Title: Re: My Sketchbook
Post by: grajjio on July 10, 2010, 12:23:23 AM
Can you make a tutorial how you do these kind of sketches? I would love to learn!
Title: Re: My Sketchbook
Post by: tigaer on July 29, 2010, 03:30:18 PM
WIP

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v358/tigaer/HayleyWIP.jpg)

Currently just a few hours in. First time painting a human face. You win the internets if you can guess who it is from the brief WIP I have so far... even though her eyes still need some work lol.
Title: Re: My Sketchbook
Post by: tigaer on July 29, 2010, 05:22:42 PM
Also, on the subject of tutorials; once I get a little more practice time in on this tablet and am comfortable with my style, I'll start recording speed paintings (basically a 2-3 hour painting sped up to finish in under 10 mins) and putting them up on youtube, so I'll be posting those when I've entered that stage.
Title: Re: My Sketchbook
Post by: Farley4Fan on July 29, 2010, 11:11:17 PM
I would say Amanda Peet but those eyebrows aren't bushy enough.

Hillary Clinton is my guess.
Title: Re: My Sketchbook
Post by: Jazz_117 on August 01, 2010, 02:35:47 PM
Some good stuff here tigaer.

Just curious, what do you sketch with?
Title: Re: My Sketchbook
Post by: tigaer on August 02, 2010, 06:54:56 AM
Some good stuff here tigaer.

Just curious, what do you sketch with?

Photoshop CS5 and my TouchSmart TX2 tablet.
Title: Re: My Sketchbook
Post by: Jazz_117 on August 03, 2010, 07:32:32 AM
Photoshop CS5 and my TouchSmart TX2 tablet.
I use Photoshop CS4 and an Intous 4 tablet.

My sketches tend to always be B&W and I render in a semi realistic cross Anime style.
I should try making some sketches like yours, it looks very 'practical' - for lack of a better word.
Title: Re: My Sketchbook
Post by: tigaer on August 03, 2010, 07:58:55 AM
Photoshop CS5 and my TouchSmart TX2 tablet.
I use Photoshop CS4 and an Intous 4 tablet.

My sketches tend to always be B&W and I render in a semi realistic cross Anime style.
I should try making some sketches like yours, it looks very 'practical' - for lack of a better word.

I'd love to see some of your work. I guess it looks more practical because I'm painting it how I would do a painting on paper; start with a sketch, then paint over starting with midtones and then adding shadows and highlights as I go. My brush settings are; opacity: 60-70, flow: 40. For the hard edged brush I use pressure sens set to size with opacity off, and for soft brushes I use pressure sens set to opacity with size off. For this I'm starting with a rough blocking in of colors with a hard edged brush, then painting over that with the airbrush to smooth out all the shades and give it a more airbrushed look. That's just the process I'm using for this though, I haven't really found a set style yet.

Also, I keep my left hand on 'ctrl' at all times to select new tones with the eyedropper tool for blending. Ctrl is a shortcut for it if you didn't already know that, which you probably do haha.
Title: Re: My Sketchbook
Post by: Jazz_117 on August 03, 2010, 09:41:11 AM
Heres a project I've been working on over at the official SCC forum: http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/5271091065/m/7221051568 (http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/5271091065/m/7221051568)

For outlines and straight flat colours I use a hard brush with 100 opacity\flow.  For shading I use a soft edge Multiply brush type with about 50 opacity\flow and for highlights I use a Soft-Light brush-type with same O\F as shading.  Occasionally vary my brush edge types and opacity for different affects but as of yet I'm still developing my techniques.

I don't often use the keyboard when I've got the graphics pad because Intuos4 have buttons on the side of the tablet for the most common tasks.
Look here 8): http://terrywhite.com/techblog/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/intuos4.jpg (http://terrywhite.com/techblog/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/intuos4.jpg)


I'm planning on joining Deviant Art sooner then later, but I'd like to wait until I have a little more time to expand my virtual art collection.  See, I've only been drawing on the computer for a few months - most of my work is only on paper.
Title: Re: My Sketchbook
Post by: tigaer on August 03, 2010, 09:48:13 AM
Heres a project I've been working on over at the official SCC forum: http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/5271091065/m/7221051568 (http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/5271091065/m/7221051568)

For outlines and straight flat colours I use a hard brush with 100 opacity\flow.  For shading I use a soft edge Multiply brush type with about 50 opacity\flow and for highlights I use a Soft-Light brush-type with same O\F as shading.  Occasionally vary my brush edge types and opacity for different affects but as of yet I'm still developing my techniques.

I don't often use the keyboard when I've got the graphics pad because Intuos4 have buttons on the side of the tablet for the most common tasks.
Look here 8): http://terrywhite.com/techblog/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/intuos4.jpg (http://terrywhite.com/techblog/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/intuos4.jpg)


I'm planning on joining Deviant Art sooner then later, but I'd like to wait until I have a little more time to expand my virtual art collection.  See, I've only been drawing on the computer for a few months - most of my work is only on paper.

Looks great bro. The reason why your drawings look as you put it 'less practical' is because you've kept your linework on top. I paint over my linework, so it gives it a realistic approach, rather than an anime-like look. Very impressive character design though, I like it a lot. I've only been using my tablet for a few months as well, but I've been doing digital art since I was like 11 (I used to make fan Dragonball Z trading cards back then hahaha) so I've been using Photoshop for as long as I can remember. Although, I also do have a strong traditional art background.
Title: Re: My Sketchbook
Post by: Jazz_117 on August 03, 2010, 10:04:08 AM
I started out scribbling stick figures with magic markers, LoL.

I do like the Anime-like look, it's very stylish IMO.  And I feel that it suits my speciality, female character designs.
But yeah, I'll try some more realistic renders.  It's always fun to experiment.

Something I really like about your drawings are the 3D environments - I've never been overly good in that area, your work is quite inspirational.

While on the subject of inspiration, check out the CGsociety: (if you haven’t already) http://www.cgsociety.org/ (http://www.cgsociety.org/)


EDIT: I just noticed that you said this is the first time painting a face.  Here’s a couple of tips that help me: make sure the shadows are strong in colour, particularly red and add a touch of blue or green to the brightest highlights.
Also, it looks good so far, but I have no idea who it is.  Goodluck


It seems 3Ds Max is another interest we share.  Ever want any tips just ask me, I know quite a bit and my brother is a super freak so if I don't know I can ask him. ;D
Title: Re: My Sketchbook
Post by: Farley4Fan on August 03, 2010, 10:19:12 PM
Quote
EDIT: I just noticed that you said this is the first time painting a face.  Here’s a couple of tips that help me: make sure the shadows are strong in colour, particularly red and add a touch of blue or green to the brightest highlights.
Also, it looks good so far, but I have no idea who it is.  Goodluck

It's Hillary Clinton.

You also need to make sure that the eye in the shadows still glistens a bit.  Eyes are shiny even when there is no light shining on them.
Title: Re: My Sketchbook
Post by: tigaer on August 08, 2010, 08:58:19 AM
@ Farley
I haven't even started on the eyes, aside from the linework. But thanks for the heads up. It's not clinton though haha she's not that pretty.

Anyway,
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v358/tigaer/Sketchhhhh.jpg)

Downloaded a pencil brush for photoshop and was messing around with it for like 10 mins. I think it's really fucking awesome and will be using it more because it feels a lot like drawing with an actual pencil. I encourage everybody to try it.

Pencil Brush,
http://andantonius.deviantart.com/art/Andantonius-Pencil-Brush-105284502
Title: Re: My Sketchbook
Post by: Farley4Fan on August 08, 2010, 10:45:07 AM
Dude.  Awesome brush.  Thanks for the link man.

So, you're saying Clinton isn't pretty and your lady drawing is?  You're right about one thing. :D

no i'm jk'ing u
Title: Re: My Sketchbook
Post by: tigaer on August 24, 2010, 08:20:29 AM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v358/tigaer/Hangman_concept_1.jpg)

Quick sketch of an idea for a Halo Reach map I have. Will be working on this more throughout the week after I get off work.
Title: Re: My Sketchbook
Post by: tigaer on August 25, 2010, 04:14:30 AM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v358/tigaer/sp82410.jpg)

Quick sketch of a futuristic building inside a canyon... or something like that lol.
Title: Re: My Sketchbook
Post by: Farley4Fan on August 25, 2010, 09:54:40 AM
I need halp im so newb...

I've never installed a brush before.  I wanted to try that pencil one so badly...  I installed it, it says I can use it from the brush selection, but it looks so damn, uhh, normal?  Does this need an "action" activated for it to work?

I was doodling an old man (with a mouse no tablet :(), and then I realized that there was no way that this was the pencil brush or that it was working.  When I realized it wasn't working I gave up and decided to draw animals coming from his ear.  I don't know.  Don't ask about the gun.  Thought it would be funny to do a little "BANG!" flag coming out of the barrel but I didn't leave enough room  :D

(http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/6893/oldmandoodle.png)
Title: Re: My Sketchbook
Post by: Succubus Dryad Of The Undying Comet on August 25, 2010, 01:39:41 PM
Use pressure sensitivity, then it works alright.
Title: Re: My Sketchbook
Post by: Farley4Fan on August 26, 2010, 01:01:12 AM
Did you guys see the 7 legged spider?   :D   Lennard will get it.

Succubus ur saying I need a tablet?   :(
Title: Re: My Sketchbook
Post by: frvge on August 26, 2010, 01:05:56 AM
Yes, the 7 legged spider is classic.
Title: Re: My Sketchbook
Post by: tigaer on August 26, 2010, 06:47:22 AM
Yeah, you need a tablet to use the brush properly due to the pressure sens.
Title: Re: My Sketchbook
Post by: Succubus Dryad Of The Undying Comet on August 26, 2010, 10:59:50 AM
They're cheap, 250$ gets you a good bamboo.
Title: Re: My Sketchbook
Post by: tigaer on August 28, 2010, 07:45:59 AM
They're cheap, 250$ gets you a good bamboo.

I'd actually go for an Intuos over a Bamboo, just for quality reasons. It's worth the extra money.

Also, I posted this on another forum. Thought it might be of help to somebody if they ever needed it.

Quote
(Talking about starting your drawing off simple) ...basically what I would do is start off simple; get the basic form of all the shapes, i.e. eyes, lips. ears, nose, body shape, hair shape and then start with highlights, then move to basic shadows, then blend the highlights and shadows more where needed.

This is a WIP of a painting I'm currently working on, you can see my base color layer, then my current progress.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v358/tigaer/misc.jpg)

Then I drew this up to show you how to achieve gradients and start at the basics,
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v358/tigaer/misc2.jpg)
Title: Re: My Sketchbook
Post by: nubishdubishbone on August 28, 2010, 06:13:48 PM
I need halp im so newb...

Lemmiwinks would b pissed, hes not a turtle. btw idea for sketch: Dramatic Look Lemmiwinks ... \O/
Title: Re: My Sketchbook
Post by: Farley4Fan on August 29, 2010, 02:17:21 AM
I need halp im so newb...

Lemmiwinks would b pissed, hes not a turtle. btw idea for sketch: Dramatic Look Lemmiwinks ... \O/

?

(http://img.youtube.com/vi/-C5DU6XSPso/0.jpg)

I have no clue what this or what your talking about hahaa
Title: Re: My Sketchbook
Post by: tigaer on September 01, 2010, 08:48:02 AM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v358/tigaer/InExile.jpg)

Listening to In Exile by Thrice, so I call this one "In Exile".
Title: Re: My Sketchbook
Post by: nubishdubishbone on September 01, 2010, 02:35:42 PM

Listening to In Exile by Thrice, so I call this one "In Exile".

ha! i'd imagine that would be like watching "Children of Dune", awesome movie btw (Sci-Fi original)/

"History is written on the Sand of Irakus"...
Title: Re: My Sketchbook
Post by: tigaer on September 10, 2010, 12:22:59 AM
Just a map design that I'm doing for Halo Reach that I'm having fun modeling in Sketchup,
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v358/tigaer/Hangman8.jpg)

Older pics,
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v358/tigaer/Hangman4.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v358/tigaer/Hangman2.jpg)
I need to start getting back into learning 3DS already... lol
Title: Re: My Sketchbook
Post by: Farley4Fan on September 10, 2010, 04:19:31 AM
Looks cool.  Kind of small though, is it just a portion? 
Title: Re: My Sketchbook
Post by: tigaer on September 10, 2010, 07:49:08 AM
Looks cool.  Kind of small though, is it just a portion? 

Oh yeah bro, it's a WIP, the map is like 5x that size. That's just part of the center of the map, bases will be on the side.
Title: Re: My Sketchbook
Post by: Farley4Fan on September 10, 2010, 08:48:30 AM
Cool.  Can't really judge the map till I play it.  Speaking of playing it, how will you know you can build this w/o knowing what pieces you have at your disposal?  I know it's pretty flexible and they are adding a shit ton of new pieces but it seems weird to plan ahead of time  :D

What did you plan to put up on the bridge/plank thing in the top middle?  Sword or something?  I'd put the new beam rifle thing since it kicks so much ass.
Title: Re: My Sketchbook
Post by: DreadStunLock on September 10, 2010, 11:15:01 AM
I think it would be kind of fun, to do a Project Stealth map with a design and textures of Halo Reach/3 maps :P That would work quite interesting.
Title: Re: My Sketchbook
Post by: tigaer on September 10, 2010, 03:56:19 PM
Cool.  Can't really judge the map till I play it.  Speaking of playing it, how will you know you can build this w/o knowing what pieces you have at your disposal?  I know it's pretty flexible and they are adding a shit ton of new pieces but it seems weird to plan ahead of time  :D

What did you plan to put up on the bridge/plank thing in the top middle?  Sword or something?  I'd put the new beam rifle thing since it kicks so much ass.

I know most of the pieces already, but I always design the map first, then work it into Forge afterwords. But, if you wanted, you could use these http://www.mlgpro.com/forum/showthread.php?t=327540 - but I'm not into using those, I like to design by map without limitations, then transfer that into Forge. And an active camo will be at the end of the catwalk. Camo will be very powerful on this map, so a risk = reward scenario will be best.
Title: Re: My Sketchbook
Post by: Farley4Fan on September 10, 2010, 06:22:51 PM
Woah that's awesome.  That's a lot of pieces. 

I usually just screw around in forge and maybe occasionally build something cool like a map or rune goldberg machine or something like that.  I wouldnt have much use for that but I'm sure someone who actually makes a lot of maps for competitive play would have a ton of use for that!

Only a few more days until I can make the ultimate infection game type on Forge world!  Hahaha  gonna have some awesome times with my buddies.  It's like legos but with killing and raping and no picking up afterwards.  I'll make a thread with my creations when I feel like I have stuff to show. 

It's funny how if you have a 360 then you are almost forced into buying halo either by all the ads, the awesomeness, or by all your friends who have already bought it.  It's like a contract you enter with microsoft.  Buy a 360, then you buy halo.  Deal.
Title: Re: My Sketchbook
Post by: tigaer on February 08, 2011, 01:23:17 PM
Downloaded Sketchbook Pro. Pretty sweet. I like it better than Photoshop for sketching. I love how all the tools can be quickly accessed with just the pen, and the brushes feel amazing. But yeah, I've had this character in my head all night, so I thought I'd bring him to life. Bout 1-2 hours of messing around and playing with the design.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v358/tigaer/Sketch1.jpg)
Title: Re: My Sketchbook
Post by: AgentX_003 on February 08, 2011, 04:17:33 PM
Downloaded Sketchbook Pro. Pretty sweet. I like it better than Photoshop for sketching. I love how all the tools can be quickly accessed with just the pen, and the brushes feel amazing. But yeah, I've had this character in my head all night, so I thought I'd bring him to life. Bout 1-2 hours of messing around and playing with the design.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v358/tigaer/Sketch1.jpg)

kinda reminds me of warmachine minons :D
Title: Re: My Sketchbook
Post by: DreadStunLock on February 08, 2011, 07:53:01 PM
Downloaded Sketchbook Pro. Pretty sweet. I like it better than Photoshop for sketching. I love how all the tools can be quickly accessed with just the pen, and the brushes feel amazing. But yeah, I've had this character in my head all night, so I thought I'd bring him to life. Bout 1-2 hours of messing around and playing with the design.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v358/tigaer/Sketch1.jpg)

And if you really get into it, you can create awesome architectural designs (Btw do not use coloured ready made furniture/props or what so kind, makes your design really crappy looking, best designs are the ones that are kept colourless imo.)
Title: Re: My Sketchbook
Post by: tigaer on February 13, 2011, 06:26:10 AM
Needed a simplistic wallpaper. I love the calm of rain at night, so I did this.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v358/tigaer/Simplicity_thumb-1.jpg) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v358/tigaer/Simplicity-1.jpg)

Click for the high res.
Title: Re: My Sketchbook
Post by: Farley4Fan on February 13, 2011, 09:54:15 AM
That robot guy reminds me of iron giant.  Cool wallpaper too

Did you ever finish that halo map?
Title: Re: My Sketchbook
Post by: Cronky on February 13, 2011, 06:00:20 PM
That robot guy reminds me of iron giant.

That was my first thought also. ;)
Title: Re: My Sketchbook
Post by: tigaer on February 13, 2011, 06:11:44 PM
That robot guy reminds me of iron giant.

That was my first thought also. ;)

Watched it a couple weeks ago. Loved that movie as a kid. :)
Title: Re: My Sketchbook
Post by: DreadStunLock on February 14, 2011, 01:31:25 AM
Watched it in my Art Class, got to the bit where he falls on the Electric Station :/ Crap that day was short :"(
Title: Re: My Sketchbook
Post by: tigaer on February 26, 2011, 03:41:33 AM
New wallpaper. Manchester Orchestra does wonders to the imagination.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v358/tigaer/Abstracto_thumb.jpg) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v358/tigaer/Abstracto.jpg)
Title: Re: My Sketchbook
Post by: DreadStunLock on February 26, 2011, 12:54:41 PM
I might be wrong, but is that type of art contemporary?