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This phenomenon you are observing can be easily explained by the fact that most people who buy a splinter cell game and are new to SvM have much more experience playing online first person shooters than anything like the SvM spy (which is considerably different from the single player mode spy).

Therefore, since the merc from SvM more closely resembles other generic first person shooters, the average newbie has an easier time learning how to play merc than learning how to play as spy.

That is why you see an apparent imbalance in SvM gameplay. You must consider these outside factors. Your experiments with the SvM gameplay settings do not control for these kinds of factors.

Also, you should seriously consider teaching people how to play every once in a while and not being such a try hard always owning noobs balls deep like that. Cut the newb some slack every once in a while and teach them something and you will make friends and it benefits the SC community. More decent players = higher probability of finding a GG.

You dont have to be all like "Oh shit everybody sucks therefore I will give everybody lives and own them anyway without giving a shit about anything".

LOL...


Your method of "creating a GG" is arguably detrimental to the community, because it just prevents newbs from actually learning how to play the game. I just makes more noobs even noobier by giving them too many lives and restricting them from learning how to evade mines and spy traps etc.

I agree with Master Neo that "Host advantage", bugs and exploits unbalances gameplay. Now that is a real factor to consider, because even under ideal conditions (both teams know how to play as merc and spy), the host actually has an easier time getting kills or knockdowns.

IMO your "custom mode" is pretty stupid.
Your entire ideal is based on a misunderstanding of the term "balanced gameplay". What you basically did is you "dumbed down" mercs and boosted spy lives so that newb spies "have a better chance of surviving during a match against good mercs".

The point of balancing an online game is to make changes to gadgets/gameplay so that people that actually know how to play the game can have a GG. You dont "balance gamplay" assuming one side/team doesnt know how to play and the other one does. Just because the game is asymmetrical and spies have a steeper learning curve, doesnt mean the game is unbalanced. Learning curve is one thing, gamplay balance is another.

For example, imagine call of duty multiplayer mode where defenders have more health and lives and attackers (bomb planters) have less than half of the lives and die with less shots. This would only produce a GG in a scenario where the attackers are a team of pro players and the defenders are a team of noobs. Otherwise, if both teams are at same skill level it would be extremely unbalanced.

You are "balancing gameplay" making all the wrong assumptions. Your premise is that the merc will always be a good player and the spy will always be a bad player, or that the same person will be very good at merc and very bad at spy ALWAYS. That is just false. You also gave all the noob spies a bunch of lives and took off all of your merc gadgets so that you dont "own them" so easily, yet you conveniently left EMF on and took MT off just to give the illusion that you are at a disadvantage, when in reality you are probably just gonna "ghost snipe" the shit out of those noob spies.

In short, when "balancing a game" you must assume IDEAL CONDITIONS, and by that I mean that you must assume that all players on both teams have a fricking clue about what the hell they are doing while playing the game. Balance a game for people that know how to play. NOT FOR PEOPLE THAT DONT KNOW HOW TO PLAY playing against people that DO KNOW HOW TO PLAY.

LOL... Don't take too long this time (6 years lol).





.... 6 years later...


"Hi guys this is the PS dev team, and we are proud to announce that we will rebuild the game again because Unreal Engine 5 is out! Please be patient, it will be ready when it is ready!"

Crowd funding has nothing to do with game imbalance and when I said extras I didn't mean to imply that. That was all you jumping into shitty conclusions. If you guys had actually clicked on the god damn link I posted and read a bit about the new game called "Star Citizen" you would see that this guy leading "Roberts Space Industries" (RSI) has received TONS of money without even imbalancing his game.

Of course it IS a very different kind of game in which a lot of content can be created as RSI  receives more funds, but this game (PS) will always have room for improvements anyway, but whatever, this was a post I made so that the devs of this game see it anyway. It is up to them in the end.

The best way would be a kickstarter campaign and give out extras to funders that are not gameplay changing like weapon skins / different suits or forum/ingame badges etc.

Impossible right now because frvge is neither from UK nor from USA.

WTF are you talking about man. You can be from any country it doesn't matter.


Game imbalance or not what the fuck ever man. STFU with bullshit side tracks.

The point is that crowdfunding is the way to go right now and Project Stealth should look into following this path!

Another great example of crowdfunding success http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80HsW4HmUes

I am just trying to be a bit motivational here. so stfu with game imbalancing issues man seriously.

https://robertsspaceindustries.com/about-the-game


May be a good way of raising funds to develop a game. Offering some sort of like exclusive content or something?

I won a scholarship today!  ;D
and I got into the internship!  8)


Just because i push myself into improving as a person dosent mean I suck. Contrary to your belief, gaygent, people are not born with these "genious/skill" traits. They practice it and get good at it.

Believe it or not, your antisocial psychomanic mental behavior has fooled you into believing that you were somehow born with SCCT versus mode "skills". Where in fact you have been playing the same god damn buggy ass game nonstop inside your dark batcave-like room for the past 15 years of your life.

This reminds me of cartman in "fishsticks" from the 13th season when he convinces himself he came up with the best joke of all time. lol...

Good bye videogames!
This summer i have an internship, then i will be transfering to a univeristy by fall 2010. So that might be it for me guys..
i might still hang around in the forum and social networks a little, but um i think its time for the next step in my life, i think that I have been forcing videogames into my life without really having the time for them. I am the kind of student who relies on other students to understand stuff because i used to always procrastinate. I also have not been doing my required reading for each chapter covered in class, this could be due to the fact that i take a large number of classes, but still i could be doing better. its time for me to put in time to my school work at home, i have to push myself more i dont want to be mediocre.

Even though i spend entire days (like 12 hours at campus) 5 days a week, i still come home and just play videogames when i could be reading.


I guess sometimes we dont realize how short days are and how fast time goes by.
Sometimes i think "i just need a short break" and to come to think of it, i realize that somedays all i would do is take "short breaks" all day ITS BULLSHIT!

good luck with project stealth... i might play it once im done with my undergrad major and i am studying for medschool...

or once im done from medschool...

hmm

or when im old and tired of practicing medicine...

ill make a little room for this god damn mod in some point in my life...

Short term objectives
*Get A's in all classes, one B maximum.
*Complete cancer research internship and volunteer at hospital before transfering
*obtain associates degree by waving "computer literacy" class and passing the health-101 exam (to not have to take that class)
*Transfer UCSD (i was accepted today woohoo!)
*Practice drumming more
*Hit the gym!
haha thats it for now.


feel free to post your short term goals

Today I decided to take action in life and uninstall every game on my pc for the reason that it took away valuable time for more productive things (i didnt remove my saved games though >:)

I have a friend with 4.0 GPA, he plays no video games but he smokes pot everyday.
I have  lower GPA and i dont do drugs but instead i play videogames.

I am always slacking off and sometimes even play online only because i dont want to get my books out even if i dont feel like im having fun online.

to come to think of it, this is comparable to a pretty serious drug addiction...

apparently all addictions seem to have the same repercussions no matter if its a drug, overeating, or counterproductive pastimes like videogaming.

What do you guys think of this?
Does any of you feel the same way?
Are you capable of removing all of your games in one spontaneous minute and wait to play until summer?
Do you think you could do better in school if you didnt play videogames?

Do you have any friends that get perfect grades and smoke pot all the time?
Do you believe those myths saying that pot make people smarter?

(ok too many questions, just trying to get an interesting topic going on in here)

once i enter service name and range of ports im asked for a "ServerIP adress"

how do i get this?

I think it has my ip but its missing numbers on the last box so idk its weird

i like phosphorous nade idea

the sticky nade is like pointless, unless there was an option to enable sticky nade mode to the regular nades or something, i dont think it is worth having a whole new "gadget" were the only difference is that it has glue on it.

lulz at priest kid xD

Since you guys are arguing over nothing right now I am just gonna talk...

I never try and bring up religion because I am heavily outnumbered, but if it is brought up, I will force my point upon people. If they want to talk about it then I will almost assuredly win the discussion.

My belief is that when people, or at least most people, realize that science > religion, the world will be a better place.

It's not about winning or losing a discussion.  If that is your entire aim, then you are missing the point of it all.  The point is to have an open talk with another person and have mutual interest in each other's views so that you can accomplish something.  This is done with respect- not a battle that you are fighting to win.  Present your views, listen to the other, and then calmly talk about your similarities and differences.  If you influence the other person, so be it.  And the only way you can impact another person is by taking this approach.  I'm praying for you brother...

I agree, I have to admit "im praying for you brother" made me smile, hehe
I imagined jesus with a piece of bread on one hand and wine on the other xD

I think there is a significant direct relationship between communication skills and IQ.

For example: If I saw a Tony Montana-like dude running for president saying "fuck" every 5 seconds. I would not vote for him. xD

Unlike the people you supposedly "understand", I saw some of the debates and opted to vote for Obama because I thought he had a better composure, critical thinking skills, answers, and points of view.

I didnââ,¬â,,¢t just vote for him because I didnââ,¬â,,¢t like the other guy. I actually listen to both of them and compared.
If you donââ,¬â,,¢t understand that then um I feel sorry for you.  ???

"is that all it take to get voted for nowadays"
LOL@that! We think differently thats all I will say. But the fact that you try to sound like you are some 50 year old wise man makes me feel bad for you. I will not even argue more, but really man, do you really think your all that wise? or are you just trying to show off in here? or are you just a little asshole kid that thinks and says everything his daddy thinks and says? IDK... and I dont care... but I have some advice for ya

TAKE A CHILL PILL xD