well so after being inspired upon zedblades grumpy comments, It inspired me to make a pros and cons list
on how one would triumph over the other.
Ubisoft
Cons:
- inconsistancy with patches
- lack of ability to mod
- Forums are goverened and don't allow
freedom / not clean
- Only listened to thier fan base up until now
- stuck with the same boring maps
- terrible with netcoding and cant code to save thier life interms of mulitplayer.
- community has to find alternatives to fix problems ie. flashlight / maps left untranslated
in french , ie. steelsquat
- Poor math skills : geometry on the stair case with polar base,
- failure to understand balance
- Never finish a product from start to finish.
- lack of customization
Pros:
+ lots of money
+ lots of dev members
+ alot of titles put out.
Project Stealth :
Pros :
+ players like me and you and not, know what us fans want / listens.
+ have a creative sense of direction with maps
+ theres always room for expansion , ie. new features , moves equipment, or Even if they wanted to do a single player, co-op, the opportunities are endless ,that's if the team feels comfortable after upon finishing project stealth.
+ Uses higher engine then what ubisoft is using
+ Dedicated team to provide the best multi player experience
+ website / forums are easy navigate and professionally done.
+ learning curve can be reset
@ anytime with the provision of the editor / new ideas from the community.
+ Project stealth has the ability to customize your character , hence the character package that was released with Goodkebab's model
Cons :
-not everyone understands that you cant just pull a mod out of a hat, hence
the daily lives of Work/ College/ University / Children.
- People can leave cause of personal reasons.
- Some people may loose motivation, even though thats not the case right now.
- lazyness could come into effect , but that wont happen due to intense screening process.
- Don't own all the resources to the unreal engine But that can change , hence the MSU ( make something unreal contest)
I think that sums that all up for now but feel free to add more .
Quotehence the MSU ( make something unreal contest)
Surely it defeats the purpose of an abbrieviation if you have to disclose its definition straight after? ;D
Some of the points I disagree with but I'm far to tired to quote it all out. If Ubi makes a decent Spy V merc and the PS team still continues then I'll obviously still give PS a go. SCDA MP looked promising until I actually got my hands on it. So ya' never know.
Quote+ Project stealth has the ability to customize your character , hence the character package that was released with Goodkebab's model
That was only for UT3 and has never been confirmed to be in PS.
To add to that: we're currently not planning to have it like that. Getting PS done is our main priority. Additions like that can come later.
agentx, who the fuck cares about a ubi vs ps comparison??!
I was being realistic based on my experience as a professional game developer and from my inside information as a PS Dev. I was not being grumpy or just trying to start something for shits and giggles.
Agent, your blind faith is us is misguided. Not to mention everyone's so called 'hate' for Ubisoft is nothing but a facade. We play and discus one of their 5 year old games every day. Ubisoft is just like any company, they have made and published numerous quality games, as well as numerous bad games. They have supported their games to the best of their ability as well as completely shunned other games to dwell in bug-ridden hellholes. Just like pretty much every developer out there.
Seriously, why did you create this thread, to try and get brownie points from us PS devs? Well it's not going to work, it only makes you look even more naive.
*Agrees with above 2 posters*
inconsistancy with patches? please...
ubi will bang out patches at a much faster rate than ps...remember its their job too.
My prediction is that we will get one or two patches out of PS but the playerbase will fall so low that it wont be worth making another. I know it seems like im pissing on everyones fire, but im trying to be realistic.
None the less, i hope im proven wrong.
Actially Ubi is slow with patches and usually they dont fix the more important stuff either.
Quote from: frvge on June 02, 2009, 07:43:25 PM
Actially Ubi is slow with patches and usually they dont fix the more important stuff either.
well then since you agree with me on that point, i don't deserve to be slammed as hard as I was =/ for making this post.
There's nothing wrong with making the post but there's not much point. Personally I think that if Ubisoft got more involved with the community for feedback on the game, and also improved support, that they could obviously create a better game than a small development team, these guys have a lot of experience. Like Zedblade, I feel that it's almost the cool thing nowadays to say that Ubisoft is shit, as a matter of fact without them SvM would never have been developed, nor would the Splinter Cell franchise.
However, in my opinion PS will be better than Chaos Theory's SvM. We can look at what has been done right, wrong, and how the game can be improved. This is not foresight Ubisoft had whilst developing the game. All of the PS team are clearly very talented guys, and I think that they can pull this off, but we have to keep in mind that they are a small team of developers with limited time to work on the game, as opposed to a team like Ubisoft who can work full time on games for a decent wage. If Ubisoft were to adopt the attitude of the PS team and continue to develop SvM gameplay, then I think it's obvious where the highest quality would be found.
Correct.
Ubisoft makes decent single player games, but their multiplayer offerings have typically been buggy and neglected.
Quote from: Spekkio on June 03, 2009, 12:07:42 AM
Ubisoft makes decent single player games, but their multiplayer offerings have typically been buggy and neglected.
well thats exactly what i was highlighting really, though next time if i make post such as this similar in the future then I will be sure to mention Multi player instead of assuming , even tho thus far Project stealth is only multi player.
Yea but if you think that Ubi makes buggy games, just wait until you play one made by amateurs in their spare time.
AgentX, you dont get it do you?
1. you are not saying anything anybody dosent already know.
2. nobody will understand this post untill you quote zedblades 'negative' comments. until then this post is only suggesting that you are so fanatical about this thing that you are kinda trying to suck up to the devs to gain something...
truth is, you wont gain anything from sucking up to the devs.
in short, this post is GHEY.
go try to suck somebody elses dick.
Didn't ubi mention that it was an xbox 360 exclusive? Since I am not an owner of the xbox and if they hold their word, I will be satisfied with PS without ever having tried conviction. I will watch some game play videos on youtube with saliva hanging from my lip, but still, I will remain happy with what I have, and hopefully satisfied with the outcome of this mod.
Quote from: Roberto1223 on June 03, 2009, 04:56:18 AM
AgentX, you dont get it do you?
1. you are not saying anything anybody dosent already know.
2. nobody will understand this post untill you quote zedblades 'negative' comments. until then this post is only suggesting that you are so fanatical about this thing that you are kinda trying to suck up to the devs to gain something...
truth is, you wont gain anything from sucking up to the devs.
in short, this post is GHEY.
go try to suck somebody elses dick.
Says the guy making 3 back to back to back redundant posts in the regular forum.
Quote from: Westfall on June 04, 2009, 05:10:34 AM
Says the guy making 3 back to back to back redundant posts in the regular forum.
umm posting 1 topic per thread is better because disscussions tend to go off topic.
making threads more complex only makes it more confusing and increases chances of it going off topic xD.
**Please dont reply to this** xD
Quote from: Roberto1223 on June 04, 2009, 05:48:55 AM
Quote from: Westfall on June 04, 2009, 05:10:34 AM
Says the guy making 3 back to back to back redundant posts in the regular forum.
umm posting 1 topic per thread is better because disscussions tend to go off topic.
making threads more complex only makes it more confusing and increases chances of it going off topic xD.
**Please dont reply to this** xD
Posting threads that have already been discussed or are just stupid questions or ideas is just wasting space....right? Also, 3 in a row seems likes someones nose is in a crack.
Quote from: Onlinedoucher on June 03, 2009, 05:51:46 AM
Didn't ubi mention that it was an xbox 360 exclusive? Since I am not an owner of the xbox and if they hold their word, I will be satisfied with PS without ever having tried conviction. I will watch some game play videos on youtube with saliva hanging from my lip, but still, I will remain happy with what I have, and hopefully satisfied with the outcome of this mod.
It's coming for both PC and X360. Not for PS3 - that's why they call it an exclusive.
Comparing UBI and the PS team is like comparing apples and oranges. The only thing the latter have in common is they are both a fruit. The only things UBI and PS have in common is the multiplayer aspect of one of UBI's many series. That's it. You can't compare them by pros and cons or in any other fashion.
And I still think Roberta is a very offensive person.