Poll
Question:
Should there be 3 or 1 guns in PS
Option 1: 3 current guns
votes: 4
Option 2: Just Rifle
votes: 1
Option 3: 3 current guns tweaked slightly
votes: 13
Option 4: Just rifle tweaked slightly
votes: 5
Hopefully this will clarify things for the devs as this is a democracy :D
(by tweaked i mean the devs will achieve a good balance for the rest of you guys)
1 gun - PT style.
You're vote is going to be a living example of why democracy won't work in a small community.
Quote from: .leelu12. on May 17, 2008, 02:28:46 PM
Hopefully this will clarify things for the devs as this is a democracy :D
this is no democracy. the devs decide and that's it.
for finding the truth making polls is kinda pointless anyways (especially considering that most of the good svm vets aren't active in that forum anyways).
Quote from: Rambo on May 17, 2008, 02:38:11 PM
Quote from: .leelu12. on May 17, 2008, 02:28:46 PM
Hopefully this will clarify things for the devs as this is a democracy :D
this is no democracy. the devs decide and that's it.
for finding the truth making polls is kinda pointless anyways (especially considering that most of the good svm vets aren't active in that forum anyways).
Please note that the opinion of "most of the good SvM vets" is void.
But yeah .. the devs do what the devs want, and from what I heard, the 3 weapon system will be in PS.
Quote from: BurningDeath on May 17, 2008, 02:50:18 PM
Please note that the opinion of "most of the good SvM vets" is void.
this sentence alone makes me hate you.
3 current guns, tweaked slightly.
Quote from: Rambo on May 17, 2008, 02:56:24 PM
Quote from: BurningDeath on May 17, 2008, 02:50:18 PM
Please note that the opinion of "most of the good SvM vets" is void.
this sentence alone makes me hate you.
Haha .. no problem, but I'm right. This is not "Rambo's SvM - Pros only", but Project Stealth, which should apply to a big audience.
btw. "most of the good SvM vets" includes me.
Quote from: BurningDeath on May 17, 2008, 03:06:37 PM
Quote from: Rambo on May 17, 2008, 02:56:24 PM
Quote from: BurningDeath on May 17, 2008, 02:50:18 PM
Please note that the opinion of "most of the good SvM vets" is void.
this sentence alone makes me hate you.
Haha .. no problem, but I'm right. This is not "Rambo's SvM - Pros only", but Project Stealth, which should apply to a big audience.
btw. "most of the good SvM vets" includes me.
+1
Why are there 2 topics discussing 1 thing that has been discussed 5 times before? If anything, Rambo should delete/lock his thread because this would give us a reference as to what people want.
Except that his thread was first.
This has a poll. Plus, his thread isn't 3 guns vs 1 gun. It's a "3 gunz zomfg suxx!!" thread.
1 customizable weapon is best i think.
Well there's a problem with that. You could walk up to someone and have no idea they have a shotgun, then get your body destroyed. The 1 weapon thing would be better than that because it's a jack of all trades sort of gun. The 3 weapon thing would be best because it adds variety and offers more possibilities for teamwork and collaboration.
Quote from: Papa Skull on May 18, 2008, 06:53:43 AM
You could walk up to someone and have no idea they have a shotgun, then get your body destroyed.
Well, that's actually your recklessness. Just remember not to approach mercs from the front.
aggro would take a severe hit by not knowing what gun a merc has until they get shot at by it. What is up with all thse possible aggro nerfs?
Quote from: Liqu1D_133 on May 18, 2008, 12:02:51 PM
Quote from: Papa Skull on May 18, 2008, 06:53:43 AM
You could walk up to someone and have no idea they have a shotgun, then get your body destroyed.
Well, that's actually your recklessness. Just remember not to approach mercs from the front.
Actually its not, I know exactly what he means, I try to vary my play styles depending on which gun the merc has and well if i don't know, then its a bit of a shock getting my face blown by the old 12 gauge.
"Bugger me backwards i thought you had a rifle"
It would really limit aggro players as they would just be scared to aggro, not knowing what to expect.
3 Guns > 1 Gun.
3 Guns > 1 Gun w attachments.
Quote from: FR33M4N on May 20, 2008, 08:41:20 PM
Quote from: Liqu1D_133 on May 18, 2008, 12:02:51 PM
Quote from: Papa Skull on May 18, 2008, 06:53:43 AM
You could walk up to someone and have no idea they have a shotgun, then get your body destroyed.
Well, that's actually your recklessness. Just remember not to approach mercs from the front.
Actually its not, I know exactly what he means, I try to vary my play styles depending on which gun the merc has and well if i don't know, then its a bit of a shock getting my face blown by the old 12 gauge.
"Bugger me backwards i thought you had a rifle"
It would really limit aggro players as they would just be scared to aggro, not knowing what to expect.
3 Guns > 1 Gun.
3 Guns > 1 Gun w attachments.
I disagree with your final statements. Mostly because its not hard to counter aggro spies with rifle.
Quote from: Westfall on May 20, 2008, 10:29:43 PM
I disagree with your final statements. Mostly because its not hard to counter aggro spies with rifle.
and especially not with the pt rifle and the optional boosted tazer...
Quote from: Rambo on May 20, 2008, 10:38:21 PM
Quote from: Westfall on May 20, 2008, 10:29:43 PM
I disagree with your final statements. Mostly because its not hard to counter aggro spies with rifle.
and especially not with the pt rifle and the optional boosted tazer...
And phosphorous nades. Just boosting the tazer is a good reason not to run towards a merc. Now if he's got a p. nade cloud in front of him, a shotgun that looks like a rifle, and a boosted tazer, why would the spy even try to get close? I'm done discussing that though.
Can we all agree 1 gun with attachments would suck?
I know that we can't agree that 3 guns > 1 gun or vice versa, but whatever. This will go on forever.
Quote from: Westfall on May 20, 2008, 10:29:43 PM
Quote from: FR33M4N on May 20, 2008, 08:41:20 PM
Quote from: Liqu1D_133 on May 18, 2008, 12:02:51 PM
Quote from: Papa Skull on May 18, 2008, 06:53:43 AM
You could walk up to someone and have no idea they have a shotgun, then get your body destroyed.
Well, that's actually your recklessness. Just remember not to approach mercs from the front.
Actually its not, I know exactly what he means, I try to vary my play styles depending on which gun the merc has and well if i don't know, then its a bit of a shock getting my face blown by the old 12 gauge.
"Bugger me backwards i thought you had a rifle"
It would really limit aggro players as they would just be scared to aggro, not knowing what to expect.
3 Guns > 1 Gun.
3 Guns > 1 Gun w attachments.
I disagree with your final statements. Mostly because its not hard to counter aggro spies with rifle.
its not hard with rifle ur right but its alot easier with shotgun, LIKE BOOM HEADSHOT TAKE THAT BITCH!
Quote from: FR33M4N on May 21, 2008, 12:03:10 AM
Quote from: Westfall on May 20, 2008, 10:29:43 PM
Quote from: FR33M4N on May 20, 2008, 08:41:20 PM
Quote from: Liqu1D_133 on May 18, 2008, 12:02:51 PM
Quote from: Papa Skull on May 18, 2008, 06:53:43 AM
You could walk up to someone and have no idea they have a shotgun, then get your body destroyed.
Well, that's actually your recklessness. Just remember not to approach mercs from the front.
Actually its not, I know exactly what he means, I try to vary my play styles depending on which gun the merc has and well if i don't know, then its a bit of a shock getting my face blown by the old 12 gauge.
"Bugger me backwards i thought you had a rifle"
It would really limit aggro players as they would just be scared to aggro, not knowing what to expect.
3 Guns > 1 Gun.
3 Guns > 1 Gun w attachments.
I disagree with your final statements. Mostly because its not hard to counter aggro spies with rifle.
its not hard with rifle ur right but its alot easier with shotgun, LIKE BOOM HEADSHOT TAKE THAT BITCH!
Of course its easier because its a spray gun. Uzi would be just as easy b/c ppl get stuck in the ray of death. If its rifle though....real damage comes from placement of bullets as well as sniping (b/c they are more powerful). This is what the charge/berserk was implemented for. If it turns into an aggro game...where is the balance when a merc has shotty/uzi, tazer, nades, gm...thre isnt....but the same goes for rifle. It will always be unbalanced with aggro. What it comes down to is that shotty/uzi do so much damage up close when gadgets/moves can do the same thing. Another point: When you are shooting rifle at some1 in the animation of getting into a vent...you don't always kill him.....if its some1 getting into the vent and you have an uzi/shotty....the animation practically kills the spy for you. This needs to be adjusted by either quicker animations or deletion of uzi/shotty.
i think most of you guys don't get the deadliness of the rifle up-close on a good server: 2(-3) normal-mode headshots kill a spy with 100hp, and in the chest it takes 5 bullets. without lag and host advantage there simply won't be any need for uzi or shotty unless you totally cripple the rifle, and on small maps shotty and uzi would be insanely op.