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Title: Precesion
Post by: AgentX_003 on August 08, 2008, 12:01:30 AM
As I have said before, when the forums start to feel like they are dying id revive it with a topic.


So baring that in mind,  I can't tell you how many times i sworn that I have rolled past
a nade by a hair or a merc.. and still get charged , Do you people think that movement should be more smoother  ?  . Discuss.   


P.S. personally i think this would give spies  / the players alot more edge  in escaping as a spy.

Title: Re: Percesion
Post by: Cyntrox on August 08, 2008, 01:06:25 AM
Yeah, that happens to me a lot, but not when I'm host...
Title: Re: Percesion
Post by: LennardF1989 on August 08, 2008, 01:38:37 AM
It's called "Shitty Ubisoft networking code"...

You know why they didn't do ragdolls as well? Because it seems they aren't replicated, neather do they in UT3....
Title: Re: Percesion
Post by: Tidenburg on August 08, 2008, 01:53:40 AM
The reason the forums keep dying is because there is nothing to discuss. Firstly in game forums, there's always suggestions until we get the impression they wouldn't be added anymore because the devs are too far into development or have started. Then theres the anticipation, which we've had. And then people just discuss what they think the games going to be like in between the times information is fed to us. There isn't much of that talk goin on because we all already played near enough the exact same same. :)
Title: Re: Percesion
Post by: VaNilla on August 08, 2008, 01:55:16 AM
What he said, :P
Title: Re: Percesion
Post by: Blank Man on August 08, 2008, 02:54:03 AM
What do you mean "you people"?
Title: Re: Percesion
Post by: Fruitless Man on August 08, 2008, 04:01:12 AM
No I prefer choppy gameplay... Are you kidding? Of course we want it smoother. That's not even a question.
Title: Re: Percesion
Post by: Gawain on August 08, 2008, 04:08:46 AM
there are tons of host-aggro-kiddies out there who will get raped badly once the lag is gone, but i guess they don't realize that yet XD
Title: Re: Percesion
Post by: Ion.67 on August 08, 2008, 06:28:04 AM
If we want to start something to talk about, lets talk about analogous entry.
Title: Re: Percesion
Post by: neth on August 08, 2008, 11:35:27 AM
This forum is dying cause there are no topics which would integrate the community, like off-topic ones. I also agree with Tidenburg.
Title: Re: Percesion
Post by: I <3 U on August 08, 2008, 12:48:59 PM
I agree. Until we get a playable beta, a *video of spy and merc ingame running around or something - hinting at next tick tock* I don't think there's anything we can discuss that hasn't been already.
Title: Re: Percesion
Post by: frvge on August 08, 2008, 12:54:31 PM
Ha, wishful thinking.
Title: Re: Percesion
Post by: Tidenburg on August 08, 2008, 07:43:38 PM
Frvge, in the beta at the minute, I looked at lennards pictures, does the spy not cast a shadow yet and does the environments lighting not have an effect on him so far?

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Title: Re: Precesion
Post by: frvge on August 08, 2008, 08:31:48 PM
Correct.
Title: Re: Precesion
Post by: MR.Mic on August 08, 2008, 08:58:45 PM
Quote from: frvge on August 08, 2008, 08:31:48 PM
Correct.

No, they actually do affect that spy.

The lighting in the map was just configured improperly.
Title: Re: Precesion
Post by: LennardF1989 on August 08, 2008, 11:06:59 PM
Quote from: MR.Mic on August 08, 2008, 08:58:45 PM
Quote from: frvge on August 08, 2008, 08:31:48 PM
Correct.

No, they actually do affect that spy.

The lighting in the map was just configured improperly.
Quote from: frvge on August 08, 2008, 08:31:48 PM
Correct.
Title: Re: Percesion
Post by: iservealot on August 09, 2008, 11:44:38 PM
Quote from: LennardF1989 on August 08, 2008, 01:38:37 AM
It's called "Shitty Ubisoft networking code"...

You know why they didn't do ragdolls as well? Because it seems they aren't replicated, neather do they in UT3....

Actually, they didn't do ragdolls because the default physics engine for Unreal 2 is Karma. Karma sucks. Would make the models look completely dumb. It wasn't worth it to the developers to implement a third party physics engine like Havoc, because of development costs.

There for, no physics engine.
Title: Re: Precesion
Post by: Tidenburg on August 10, 2008, 03:34:13 PM
Heh, that just made me think how hard SC would be without any physics at all. SvM: IN SPACE! (yes, this should be the sequel)
Title: Re: Precesion
Post by: Cyntrox on August 10, 2008, 05:30:54 PM
There's loads of physics in space, just not a lot of gravity...
Title: Re: Precesion
Post by: I <3 U on August 11, 2008, 02:15:33 PM
Quote from: Cyntrox on August 10, 2008, 05:30:54 PM
There's loads of physics in space, just not a lot of gravity...

This is one of those quotes that makes you think for hours whether or not its true or not. Kinda like which came first the chicken mcnugget or the egg mcmuffin?

I didnt think physics existed without gravity?
Title: Re: Precesion
Post by: frvge on August 11, 2008, 02:33:27 PM
What about friction, action=reaction, electromagnetics, optics etc. ;)
Title: Re: Precesion
Post by: MR.Mic on August 11, 2008, 02:51:25 PM
Quote from: FR33M4N on August 11, 2008, 02:15:33 PM
I didnt think physics existed without gravity?

What about the other three fundamental forces: electromagnetic, weak, and strong?
Title: Re: Precesion
Post by: I <3 U on August 11, 2008, 04:58:06 PM
Quote from: MR.Mic on August 11, 2008, 02:51:25 PM
Quote from: FR33M4N on August 11, 2008, 02:15:33 PM
I didnt think physics existed without gravity?

What about the other three fundamental forces: electromagnetic, weak, and strong?

So like forces and stuff? Is electromagnetic forces what keeps the earth / planets in the right place all the time?

www.isoundsoblonde.com :(
Title: Re: Precesion
Post by: Tidenburg on August 11, 2008, 09:46:48 PM
Erm, no. But it holds it together. Does that count for something?
Title: Re: Precesion
Post by: I <3 U on August 11, 2008, 11:07:11 PM
Quote from: Tidenburg on August 11, 2008, 09:46:48 PM
Erm, no. But it holds it together. Does that count for something?

o0 Dont ask me. I can't even remember what the topic was about in t he first place.
Title: Re: Precesion
Post by: Blank Man on August 11, 2008, 11:29:13 PM
Quote from: FR33M4N on August 11, 2008, 02:15:33 PM
Quote from: Cyntrox on August 10, 2008, 05:30:54 PM
There's loads of physics in space, just not a lot of gravity...

This is one of those quotes that makes you think for hours whether or not its true or not. Kinda like which came first the chicken mcnugget or the egg mcmuffin?

I didnt think physics existed without gravity?

HAH! you idiotic POC. You think astroids just float around without any energy in them? You think other objects in space move just because? BUAHHAHAHAHA
Title: Re: Precesion
Post by: Ion.67 on August 12, 2008, 05:15:56 AM
Quote from: Blank Man on August 11, 2008, 11:29:13 PM
Quote from: FR33M4N on August 11, 2008, 02:15:33 PM
Quote from: Cyntrox on August 10, 2008, 05:30:54 PM
There's loads of physics in space, just not a lot of gravity...

This is one of those quotes that makes you think for hours whether or not its true or not. Kinda like which came first the chicken mcnugget or the egg mcmuffin?

I didnt think physics existed without gravity?

HAH! you idiotic POC. You think astroids just float around without any energy in them? You think other objects in space move just because? BUAHHAHAHAHA

U r a POS. Spellzz wurdz dum
Title: Re: Precesion
Post by: Succubus Dryad Of The Undying Comet on August 12, 2008, 12:53:12 PM
frvge please ban them all for flaming ::)
Title: Re: Precesion
Post by: frvge on August 12, 2008, 03:25:04 PM
Make a poll.
Title: Re: Precesion
Post by: Succubus Dryad Of The Undying Comet on August 12, 2008, 03:35:40 PM
No do. The flamers are the most people here.
Title: Re: Precesion
Post by: I <3 U on August 12, 2008, 07:31:13 PM
Quote from: Blank Man on August 11, 2008, 11:29:13 PM
Quote from: FR33M4N on August 11, 2008, 02:15:33 PM
Quote from: Cyntrox on August 10, 2008, 05:30:54 PM
There's loads of physics in space, just not a lot of gravity...

This is one of those quotes that makes you think for hours whether or not its true or not. Kinda like which came first the chicken mcnugget or the egg mcmuffin?

I didnt think physics existed without gravity?

HAH! you idiotic POC. You think astroids just float around without any energy in them? You think other objects in space move just because? BUAHHAHAHAHA

Ok so i didn't really think it through whatever. No need to flame me so hard. On the other hand, nobody likes you, fuck off.
Title: Re: Precesion
Post by: Ion.67 on August 12, 2008, 08:38:22 PM
Quote from: FR33M4N on August 12, 2008, 07:31:13 PM
Quote from: Blank Man on August 11, 2008, 11:29:13 PM
Quote from: FR33M4N on August 11, 2008, 02:15:33 PM
Quote from: Cyntrox on August 10, 2008, 05:30:54 PM
There's loads of physics in space, just not a lot of gravity...

This is one of those quotes that makes you think for hours whether or not its true or not. Kinda like which came first the chicken mcnugget or the egg mcmuffin?

I didnt think physics existed without gravity?
HAH! you idiotic POC. You think astroids just float around without any energy in them? You think other objects in space move just because? BUAHHAHAHAHA

Ok so i didn't really think it through whatever. No need to flame me so hard. On the other hand, nobody likes you, fuck off.

QFE
Title: Re: Precesion
Post by: Blank Man on August 12, 2008, 09:39:45 PM
And I stride to change my image in the eyes of faggots. Yes, you, fr33h0m0
Title: Re: Precesion
Post by: Blank Man on August 12, 2008, 09:40:36 PM
Quote from: Liqu1D_133 on August 12, 2008, 03:35:40 PM
No do. The flamers are the most people here.

The Polish have no say in anything.
Title: Re: Precesion
Post by: Tidenburg on August 12, 2008, 10:04:55 PM
 :-\
Sometimes I wonder how these goons even manage to connect to the internet without hurting themselves.
Title: Re: Precesion
Post by: I <3 U on August 12, 2008, 10:58:25 PM
Quote from: Blank Man on August 12, 2008, 09:39:45 PM
And I stride to change my image in the eyes of faggots. Yes, you, fr33h0m0

Ok Wank Man. Srsly just stop now, I don't want to continuously flame the forums.
Title: Re: Precesion
Post by: Ion.67 on August 12, 2008, 11:51:22 PM
Quote from: Blank Man on August 12, 2008, 09:40:36 PM
Quote from: Liqu1D_133 on August 12, 2008, 03:35:40 PM
No do. The flamers are the most people here.

The Polish have no say in anything.

When your balls drop you can talk.
Title: Re: Precesion
Post by: Westfall on August 17, 2008, 08:10:57 AM
Quote from: Blank Man on August 12, 2008, 09:39:45 PM
And I stride to change my image in the eyes of faggots. Yes, you, fr33h0m0

glad to see you're still living.
Title: Re: Precesion
Post by: Neverdown on August 19, 2008, 01:10:02 PM
First somebody complains about the forum is dieing and suggest a different thing to talk about. Then you discuss gravity or not and it ends in a flamewar.

8)
Title: Re: Precesion
Post by: frvge on August 19, 2008, 01:11:51 PM
I love heated discussions. But preferably at SCLamers.
Title: Re: Percesion
Post by: MulleDK19 on August 21, 2008, 12:36:56 PM
Quote from: LennardF1989 on August 08, 2008, 01:38:37 AM
It's called "Shitty Ubisoft networking code"...

Not only... Another reason is that the collision radius of the merc is increased while charging, making it possible for them to hit a spy, even though they're not near him.
Title: Re: Precesion
Post by: Succubus Dryad Of The Undying Comet on August 21, 2008, 01:35:43 PM
Quote from: MulleDK13 on August 21, 2008, 12:36:56 PM
Quote from: LennardF1989 on August 08, 2008, 01:38:37 AM
It's called "Shitty Ubisoft networking code"...

Not only... Another reason is that the collision radius of the merc is increased while charging, making it possible for them to hit a spy, even though they're not near him.
That's an interesting one.
Title: Re: Percesion
Post by: MR.Mic on August 21, 2008, 01:44:38 PM
Quote from: MulleDK13 on August 21, 2008, 12:36:56 PM
Quote from: LennardF1989 on August 08, 2008, 01:38:37 AM
It's called "Shitty Ubisoft networking code"...

Not only... Another reason is that the collision radius of the merc is increased while charging, making it possible for them to hit a spy, even though they're not near him.

No it's not. The reason is that charging is clientside.
Title: Re: Percesion
Post by: I <3 U on August 21, 2008, 03:35:44 PM
Quote from: MR.Mic on August 21, 2008, 01:44:38 PM
Quote from: MulleDK13 on August 21, 2008, 12:36:56 PM
Quote from: LennardF1989 on August 08, 2008, 01:38:37 AM
It's called "Shitty Ubisoft networking code"...

Not only... Another reason is that the collision radius of the merc is increased while charging, making it possible for them to hit a spy, even though they're not near him.

No it's not. The reason is that charging is clientside.

I'm not sure i fully understand. As host i've knocked down spies which have been nowhere near me. What's the difference between client and host side? (In terms of gameplay).
Title: Re: Percesion
Post by: Tidenburg on August 22, 2008, 01:00:28 AM
Quote from: MR.Mic on August 21, 2008, 01:44:38 PM
Quote from: MulleDK13 on August 21, 2008, 12:36:56 PM
Quote from: LennardF1989 on August 08, 2008, 01:38:37 AM
It's called "Shitty Ubisoft networking code"...

Not only... Another reason is that the collision radius of the merc is increased while charging, making it possible for them to hit a spy, even though they're not near him.

No it's not. The reason is that charging is clientside.
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I'm not sure i fully understand. As host i've knocked down spies which have been nowhere near me. What's the difference between client and host side? (In terms of gameplay).
If your on xbox live. Not being host gives you the sacred right of bitching and moaning about how that kill was purely because he was "hosting".
Title: Re: Percesion
Post by: MulleDK19 on September 06, 2008, 03:29:14 AM
Quote from: MR.Mic on August 21, 2008, 01:44:38 PM
Quote from: MulleDK13 on August 21, 2008, 12:36:56 PM
Quote from: LennardF1989 on August 08, 2008, 01:38:37 AM
It's called "Shitty Ubisoft networking code"...

Not only... Another reason is that the collision radius of the merc is increased while charging, making it possible for them to hit a spy, even though they're not near him.

No it's not. The reason is that charging is clientside.

That too.

The worst thing is that player positions are NOT replicated!
Well.. Okay, the position values are... But the players are not placed at the positions the clients receive.. The pawns will try to walk to the position.

I've done several investigations and testings in this.

And this is why people some times experience that mercs have charged them through a wall.. Because the pawn was trying to walk to the position it was giving, but because of a very little lag the position changed to behind a wall before they could get to the first position they were given, which causes them to get blocked by a wall, and seem to be on the opposite wall to other clients, than they really are.

The same counts for charges, the pawn hasn't reached the position it was supposed to be at, and since charges are clientside (health to lose is even controlled clientside), they'll charge you where you are not!


I've recorded a video of the bad ubi coding, if anyone wanna see it xD
Title: Re: Precesion
Post by: Succubus Dryad Of The Undying Comet on September 06, 2008, 03:05:13 PM
Show it :)
Title: Re: Precesion
Post by: MulleDK19 on September 06, 2008, 07:17:27 PM
Quote from: Liqu1D_133 on September 06, 2008, 03:05:13 PM
Show it :)

Okay.. Will take a few days though, cause I recorded it with my PDA, and I need to power it, transfer the file, and convert it.. And I'm too lazy right now xD

Maybe tomorrow ^^
Title: Re: Percesion
Post by: Vega on September 18, 2008, 05:53:08 PM
Quote from: Fruitless Man on August 08, 2008, 04:01:12 AM
No I prefer choppy gameplay... Are you kidding? Of course we want it smoother. That's not even a question.

QFE.  Agent, this is a pretty pointless topic.