Since a lot of people are against inverted neck grab which in my opinion is also very hard to implement . It is possible to add this alternative . It could be done from ledge grab positions of certain altitude ( museum altitude is the optimal one i think ) . What you do is basicly drop down with slow walk , grab the ledge and if a merc passes under you or near you , you can leg choke hold him . If you are stealthy you can ambush him like that and i think it would be fun .
The rope thing is almost the same but it has unlimited altitude range but the draw back is that you need time to prepare the throw and time to come out of it like 1-2 sec to enter and 1 sec to get out which makes you very easy to kill for snipers . Plus you could make a small sound when you take out the rope ( Grappling sound from CT ). ( You stand on top of the sealing or whatever near ledge + 1 it should be possible with some object in front of you like small fence or...... forgot the word well just an example : From garden 2nd floor to garden 1st floor . It should be possible even with the fence in the way.)
Imho the 2nd idea is better i think but that 1st one has it pros and cons too. If 1st relies on speed with which you can perform it , the 2nd one relies on knowledge of the map and places + help from your teammate . Don't say that it will be easy to know where he can rope you because there are tons of ceilings on most of the maps and you can't just ignore all of them , well you will be able probably but that will significantly increase the time you waste on movement .
i'm generally for leg-choke/break instead of inverted neck-break as it's way faster to do and just as cool.
We already have the ledge grab, I think no other move is needed in its place. The rope one sounds good if a grappling rope was implented, however I think the inverted neck break is a necessity as it expands the use of hanging on poles (there is fuck all to be honest at the moment, usually it makes you more vulnerable).
Has any discussion been put into throwing your partner like in CT Coop?
I personally think it's not worth it. Better to distract. If it's meant as a 'real' Coop move whose mainfunction is to cover more grounds (like throwing over gaps), then it's fine. But only at those places. If a Merc is in the way, it will probably KO, but then that's a side-effect.
But the move isn't planned. First the basics ;).
Personally I'd rather see something like the ability to cancel out of a grab by quickly shoving the merc away causing him to stumble a few steps but no real gain other than a quick getaway. I think something of this nature adds more to the gameplay than another kill method.
Yes.
That's an interesting idea, what if you're being shot by a merc when grabbing another merc, push the one you have grabbed away into the bullets of the other mercenary and run off to your objective, so the head would be the only option to aim for without killing your merc teammate most of the time, it would be very nice.
Quote from: B1nArY_001 on September 23, 2008, 04:23:38 AM
Personally I'd rather see something like the ability to cancel out of a grab by quickly shoving the merc away causing him to stumble a few steps but no real gain other than a quick getaway. I think something of this nature adds more to the gameplay than another kill method.
I'd like that. I want to shove a merc off a ledge.
Onto another merc thus killing him :>.