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Title: About the Revised Motion Tracking vision
Post by: Roberto1223 on November 26, 2008, 07:32:37 AM
ok i was looking at the new screen shot and what i see is a white spy and 4 black spies farther away fading out in proportion to distance.

from what i see i deduce that the white spy is the spy that is in movement and therefore high-lighted by MT vision, while the other black spies are a demonstration of how the spy can be seen while not in movement and according to distance.

--if im wrong about what i previously said plz explain how this vision works--

if im right well then, heres my comment on it:

Since it is a Motion Tracking vision, i think that it would be better if u guys made the not-in-motion spies a lot less visible than they are.

simply because it is called motion tracking i suppose that it would be reasonable to make it a motion traking vision only!

and also because it is lame that spies can be seen even when being still as if MT were Night Vision.

being a spy is about stalking and being quick. i think its fun when ur a spy and ur reacting very fast and turning off your gadgets when u see that merc goes to EMF.
it is also fun and difficult to react fast and freeze yourself the instant you detect that merc goes to Motion Tracking vision, but for your skills/speed/concentration/effort to be ruined by some lame MT that detects spy when they are NOT in motion is lame.

i hope u understand. let me know what you think.
Title: Re: About the Revised Motion Tracking vision
Post by: ShadowX on November 26, 2008, 10:28:07 AM
When the spy is not in motion, he will be completely invisible in MT, but the other stages are just to show how it progressively increases how the spy is lit in MT when he is moving even a little, and then the Highlighted spy when it finally detects it. The one standing still doesn't lit up.
Title: Re: About the Revised Motion Tracking vision
Post by: frvge on November 26, 2008, 11:40:19 AM
Spies' opacity depends on distance from the Merc and speed. Spies who dont move are invisible.
Spies who move in the distance at speed X are less visible than Spies who move at half that distance at speed X.
However... if you run/fall/(jump?) anywhere, doesn't matter how far the Merc is, is you're in his field of vision, you will be highlighted.
Title: Re: About the Revised Motion Tracking vision
Post by: Succubus Dryad Of The Undying Comet on November 26, 2008, 03:29:31 PM
Will the highlight stay up like in CT after the spy leaves the mercs fov?
I hope not ::)
Title: Re: About the Revised Motion Tracking vision
Post by: frvge on November 26, 2008, 03:46:51 PM
No.
Title: Re: About the Revised Motion Tracking vision
Post by: Succubus Dryad Of The Undying Comet on November 26, 2008, 11:21:42 PM
Thanks :D
Title: Re: About the Revised Motion Tracking vision
Post by: Roberto1223 on November 27, 2008, 12:03:14 AM
ok cool cause im pretty sure that in SCCT motion tracker can see spies even when they dont move which is pretty gay, and yes it also tracks things that arent in the field of view of the merc which is lame too

its cool that u are going to fix that, but now i have a different question

how much lag will the MT vision have for it to react and highlight? will spies have at least half a second to react and stop moving if they see a merc using MT?


and another question, is: after having cleared the fact that MT will not detect objects that are not in movement in PS (unlike in SCCT); does this mean that a merc can walk by a spy 2 feet away and not see the spy if he is leaning back to the wall for example?

ok ty in advanced.

and for all who are against making this change in MT cause they enjoy using it as NV well u can still use laser in combination with the new MT and detect still objects. :D
Title: Re: About the Revised Motion Tracking vision
Post by: frvge on November 27, 2008, 12:07:32 AM
Quotehow much lag will the MT vision have for it to react and highlight? will spies have at least half a second to react and stop moving if they see a merc using MT?
As far as I know, it'll be instant. So if you are running and you see a Merc coming with MT on, he will have seen you. However, if you are running, he probably heard already. If you were sneaking, you're not really that visible, and if you're lucky, he might not notice it. Depends on your speed and distance. This is not final, we might implement a short delay. Depends on testing.

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and another question, is: after having cleared the fact that MT will not detect objects that are not in movement in PS (unlike in SCCT); does this mean that a merc can walk by a spy 2 feet away and not see the spy if he is leaning back to the wall for example?
Currently, yes. We might implement some distortion effect later tho, which will be hard to notice. Depends on testing ;)
Title: Re: About the Revised Motion Tracking vision
Post by: I <3 U on November 27, 2008, 05:51:39 PM
Where are these screens, i see no tick tock? :S
Title: Re: About the Revised Motion Tracking vision
Post by: frvge on November 27, 2008, 06:29:02 PM
http://community.projectstealthgame.com/forums/index.php/topic,1399.msg34366.html#msg34366
Title: Re: About the Revised Motion Tracking vision
Post by: Blank Man on November 28, 2008, 02:14:41 AM
I would actually like it if the spy was visible when not in motion, but very vaguely, I mean... you see the walls, are they moving? It wouldn't make sense if anything that is not moving is invisible  :-\
Title: Re: About the Revised Motion Tracking vision
Post by: frvge on November 28, 2008, 07:41:41 AM
Geometry has been programmed in when the Mercs arrived. That's why walls and objects are visible, but non-moving Spies are not.
Title: Re: About the Revised Motion Tracking vision
Post by: LennardF1989 on November 28, 2008, 09:29:40 AM
If you look very closely, you could actually see a ghost-spy to the most right >.>

Even when you're not moving, you should be against a wall or something, because the merc will see your ghost if you just stand in the middle of the room. Or I misunderstood MR.Mic, whatever.

We have a ghost in EMF (see MR.Mic's EMF video), though.
Title: Re: About the Revised Motion Tracking vision
Post by: MR.Mic on November 28, 2008, 10:33:58 AM
Quote from: LennardF1989 on November 28, 2008, 09:29:40 AM
If you look very closely, you could actually see a ghost-spy to the most right >.>

Even when you're not moving, you should be against a wall or something, because the merc will see your ghost if you just stand in the middle of the room. Or I misunderstood MR.Mic, whatever.

We have a ghost in EMF (see MR.Mic's EMF video), though.

You misunderstood me.

You are completely invisible in MT when still.
Your visibility level is directly proportional to your speed of movement.
When you pass a certain speed threshold, you turn from black to highlighted and the merc is alerted with a sound.
Title: Re: About the Revised Motion Tracking vision
Post by: Blank Man on November 28, 2008, 09:11:44 PM
What about the sound? Will it go SHNYANANANA like it does in CT as soon as it detects movement?
Title: Re: About the Revised Motion Tracking vision
Post by: frvge on November 28, 2008, 09:26:16 PM
We don't know.
Title: Re: About the Revised Motion Tracking vision
Post by: Roberto1223 on November 29, 2008, 06:10:40 PM
its getting pretty confusing, a video demonstration would be very nice...

just like the EMF one, which i cant ever see in the intro page of this web site but yeah...
Title: Re: About the Revised Motion Tracking vision
Post by: frvge on November 29, 2008, 07:43:26 PM
Try http://www.moddb.com/mods/project-stealth/videos/dev-comments-sneakpeek-of-emf#imagebox ;)
Title: Re: About the Revised Motion Tracking vision
Post by: Roberto1223 on November 30, 2008, 03:54:19 AM
nice that one did work, thanks.

sweet no more sniping spies with emf  if they dont have gadgets on :D



a vid like that for MT vision would awnser all my questions xD
Title: Re: About the Revised Motion Tracking vision
Post by: Blank Man on November 30, 2008, 04:58:09 AM
Oh pshaw, all you played was Deftech DM anyway.

Not judging  :)
Title: Re: About the Revised Motion Tracking vision
Post by: Westfall on November 30, 2008, 07:03:45 PM
Hahaha
Title: Re: About the Revised Motion Tracking vision
Post by: Roberto1223 on December 02, 2008, 06:23:10 AM
yea i had my like mode seasons... sometimes i played only dm then sometimes i played story

just like how sometimes i listen to progressive rock then other times i start listening to punk rock etc.

but yeah i did play alot of dm unlike most of u, and thats why i never got really good at story even though ive been around since the beta of scct (before that i played console versions of SC)

PS wont have dm i think so ima be playing story (good news for u i guess...); the good news for me though is that PS wont be as buggy, laggy, or overall shity as SCCT! :D
Title: Re: About the Revised Motion Tracking vision
Post by: Farley4Fan on December 02, 2008, 06:48:37 AM
Not to go completely off topic here but, dude, punk rock?   :o

To each is own I guess.

I think the MT looks good so far.
Title: Re: About the Revised Motion Tracking vision
Post by: Roberto1223 on December 02, 2008, 06:53:21 AM
dont u like music like blink 182 or um silverstein, saosin?







yes i know most of the people here listen to death metal, study japanese, jerk off to hentai, and draw anime...

watch a video called    "pablo francisco - death metal band" (a comedian really funny!!)


IM PROUD TO SAY IM NOT LIKE THEM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: About the Revised Motion Tracking vision
Post by: Westfall on December 02, 2008, 09:42:02 AM
Quote from: Roberto1223 on December 02, 2008, 06:53:21 AM
dont u like music like blink 182 or um silverstein, saosin?







yes i know most of the people here listen to death metal, study japanese, jerk off to hentai, and draw anime...

watch a video called    "pablo francisco - death metal band" (a comedian really funny!!)


IM PROUD TO SAY IM NOT LIKE THEM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I don't really listen to any of that shit. Pablo Francisco ftw tho.
Title: Re: About the Revised Motion Tracking vision
Post by: LennardF1989 on December 02, 2008, 02:35:26 PM
Guys... Back on topic plox.
Title: Re: About the Revised Motion Tracking vision
Post by: Westfall on December 03, 2008, 02:33:25 AM
There isn't anything left to be discussed in this thread.
Title: Re: About the Revised Motion Tracking vision
Post by: Farley4Fan on December 03, 2008, 05:49:42 AM
Quote from: Roberto1223 on December 02, 2008, 06:53:21 AM
dont u like music like blink 182 or um silverstein, saosin?







yes i know most of the people here listen to death metal, study japanese, jerk off to hentai, and draw anime...

watch a video called    "pablo francisco - death metal band" (a comedian really funny!!)


IM PROUD TO SAY IM NOT LIKE THEM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

lawls i don't like anything you just listed.  I don't mean to sound like I'm trying to be better than you though.  I just have different tastes.  I prefer metal (Iron Maiden, Metallica, Judas Priest, Dio, some Pantera, etc.), rock, classic rock, some hip-hop (mostly old stuff).  I just don't like the new music that's been put out.  Seems like the newer music is made for the masses and not to make great music.
Title: Re: About the Revised Motion Tracking vision
Post by: Roberto1223 on December 03, 2008, 09:40:54 PM
yeah thats what i meannt bby death metal.

i agree hip hop rap annd shit like that is promoted on mtv is only for mmasses annd it sucks bbut there are a bbunnch of nnew bannds that are truely good inn inndepennndennt labbels mmostly


sorry for the doubble letters mmmy keybboard isnnt workinng






explanitory video for nnew mmotionn trackinng visionn plz!
Title: Re: About the Revised Motion Tracking vision
Post by: Farley4Fan on December 04, 2008, 01:48:41 AM
LOL!  That keyboard must be a bitch to play with! 

*presses equipment button*
*Equipment screen comes up, and instantly back out again*
Damnit!
Title: Re: About the Revised Motion Tracking vision
Post by: Roberto1223 on December 04, 2008, 07:26:35 AM
lol nnnah its nnot mmy "gamminng commputer's" keyboard; i live at mmy aunnt's house annd i have to use a shitty commp that mmy 3 year old cousins spill drinnks onn all the timme,, thenn they leave like food onn the keys annd they're all sticky oily annd just fucked up lol..... i cleann the keyboard but the keys stick anyway so this keyboard is pretty mmuch useless now

annd i ainnt buyinn a keyboard for these lil dudes to fuck up again,, annd mmy aunnt donnt give a shit for the comp i have to use at her homme which is this onne so lol thats pretty mmuch the whole story on why this happenns xD
Title: Re: About the Revised Motion Tracking vision
Post by: frvge on December 04, 2008, 11:19:27 AM
Get a spoon, remove all the keys, disassemble the plastic stuff from the electronics, check that there aren't any wires on the plastic. Put plastic with loose keys in the dishwasher. Wait. Let it dry. Put in keys in correct order.

Disclaimer: frvge is not responsible if you fuck up your keyboard.
Title: Re: About the Revised Motion Tracking vision
Post by: LennardF1989 on December 04, 2008, 08:10:38 PM
Quote from: LennardF1989 on December 02, 2008, 02:35:26 PM
Guys... Back on topic plox.
In that case stop replying or request this to be moved/splitted to off-topic.
Title: Re: About the Revised Motion Tracking vision
Post by: Succubus Dryad Of The Undying Comet on December 04, 2008, 09:33:17 PM
Quote from: LennardF1989 on December 04, 2008, 08:10:38 PM
Quote from: LennardF1989 on December 02, 2008, 02:35:26 PM
Guys... Back on topic plox.
In that case stop replying or request this to be moved/splitted to off-topic.
You know you're replying to yourself?
Title: Re: About the Revised Motion Tracking vision
Post by: Farley4Fan on December 04, 2008, 09:39:27 PM
Inferno I think he was continuing his post and told us to take the off topic stuff elsewhere.
Title: Re: About the Revised Motion Tracking vision
Post by: LennardF1989 on December 04, 2008, 09:56:38 PM
Quote from: Inferno on December 04, 2008, 09:33:17 PM
Quote from: LennardF1989 on December 04, 2008, 08:10:38 PM
Quote from: LennardF1989 on December 02, 2008, 02:35:26 PM
Guys... Back on topic plox.
In that case stop replying or request this to be moved/splitted to off-topic.
You know you're replying to yourself?
Epic Fail, I ment to reply to the one that said there's nothing more to discuss.
Title: Re: About the Revised Motion Tracking vision
Post by: Roberto1223 on December 05, 2008, 01:26:28 AM
yeah u can move it, i dont mind :P
Title: Re: About the Revised Motion Tracking vision
Post by: Farley4Fan on December 05, 2008, 05:59:01 AM
Lollies, lennard did respond to himself!   :D