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Hi,
Could anyone post the link where i can get this from, or e-mail me the file (anni1357@googlemail.com).
Thanks

IMO it's cheating, because you have an unfair advantage by altering a key mechanic of the game. But good for you. Most of the people here play fair, but maybe someone has it. You can try asking at SCL (see at the bottom of the page).

Everyone spam him.

wow, the fact that i dont know anything about all these "top secret" hacks and stuff makes me think that all the self-proclaimed "pros" are probably a bunch of morons that try to hide these things from other players in order to have advantage in games. pathetic...


you guys should have seen the amount of hassle i went through just for asking "what is suspect dojo map?"

everybody was like "who told you?" "why do you want it?" "its not a good map, dont get it"

and im like, what the hell is it!??!? omfg, turns out its just a fucking sniper range with frag training and some EAX training. BIG DEAL

WHAT A BUNCH OF FUCKING LOSERS (TO WHOEVER THINKS THAT REVEALING THESE THINGS IS DANGEROUS TO THEIR SKILL LEVEL)

BTW, i only wondered what that map was because of the reason that i once saw it in the server menu.

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and i also read not to long ago that other "pros" hack the files to get full view when in gas mask mode.

what the fuck? this is ridiculous, all this time ive been dealing with a bunch of dickwads calling me "noob", and it turns out they are all just a bunch of pricks using hacks that they claim arent cheats.

Also the dude that said he hacked files to bind keys (Thats BS too)
unless u guys had the fucking balls to make your hacks public and acccessible to other players, they will lead to unfair gameplay, which means they are cheats.

im pretty sure there are a shitload of "tweaks" i dont know about, and i call bullshit on all of them.
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meh.. i was right all along.

im not saying im a pro, im just saying, im a med for the reason that i dont fucking use bullshit things like these to get advantage. truth is, i dont even know how to hack games, but in the end its not like i take them so seriously as to be hacking them and then hiding the hacks from other people and smurfing, and defending them by claiming they are not cheats as soon as somebody finds out about em.


oh and btw, ive said it many times EAX UBER-HEARING is bullshit, fuck all of the "pros" who use it, and fuck EMF ghosting.

all you "pros" are just a bunch of lifeless prick losers trying to give other casual/normal gamers a hard time by calling them "nubs" fuck you.

I have to say, where the fuck did you get all that from when all that's been said in response is "IMO it's cheating" and "Everyone spam him".

Roberto... sorry to break it for you, but binding keys is not considered cheating afaik. Improving visibility of stuff is, though.

Quote from: Roberto1223 on June 18, 2009, 10:12:09 AM
and defending them by claiming they are not cheats as soon as somebody finds out about em.

But everyone does call it a cheat.

Quote from: blablablabla on June 18, 2009, 01:15:50 AM
Hi,
Could anyone post the link where i can get this from, or e-mail me the file (anni1357@googlemail.com).
Thanks

Lul, don't come here and ask for dem hax, y0!

And Roberto? Don't blame dem hax n' huds n' tweakz. They're not the reason why you suck at the game.

so anyone have the link?
seems to me some people have this hud and others dont. As some already have it, its not fair on the rest, if its not freely available to use.
whats damians xfire?
@Roberto: damian3k hud does remove the darkness on gas mask. Intersting thing is, some people use gas mask always on cheat with the hud, and take uzi (cos u cant snipe with cheat). Then they never sleep and have perfect vision when playing.
EAX is also badly implemented in game and spoils the stealth.
@Yayzor: funny thing is, iv seen a screen shot with both you and stickyzor using the damian3k hud. So how about you email me the file, or if you have deleted if, get it off ur buddy stickyzor and sent it me.

Roberto, you're an idiot.

1) Search Youtube for old "pro" CT vids. Notice how they all have the stock, in-game merc hud when they show the merc's POV. Modifying a game's files in a way that removes an item's negative attributes (ie, the gasmask's restricted POV) is cheating.

2) Modifying the default.ini to get proper framerate settings is not hacking, it's something Ubi should've implemented when they released the game. Any game engine that automatically limits the player to 32 FPS is shitty. This was not done to balance the game; no other PC game in existance limits the player's FPS to this absurd level in an attempt to create more balance. Rather, it was just another example of lazy and poor Ubisoft programming when porting a console game to the PC. Tweaking default.ini settings to maximize game performance beyond what the in-game GUI graphics settings offer is a practice that is as old as PC games. If you call this "bullshit," you might as well call modifying your GPU driver settings "bullshit" as well, since it can affect game performance beyond what the in-game GUI settings offer.

3) The sound engine for this game sucks. Without EAX, it's impossible for spies to hear mines. With EAX, the mercs can hear spy actions from way too far away. Unfortunately, there's no medium, but it's quite possible to defeat people using EAX.

4) EMF ghosting is nothing special; everyone is capable of doing it. EMF quality is not affected by any graphics settings aside from resolution, and in that respect a higher resolution does not translate to being able to more easily spot spies (I did just fine on 1024x768).

5) STFU and lrn2play. kkthxbai.

lol can SoMeOnE tell me damian3ks xfire or just send me the files for the hud. Of all the people here, one of you must know damien and one of you must use that hud.

We're not going to help you cheat, shut the hell up already.

And that's where PS anti-cheat comes in!

Quoteso anyone have the link?

How do I say this nicely.... ehmmm.... NO!

Quote from: blablablabla on June 18, 2009, 02:53:36 PM
seems to me some people have this hud and others dont. As some already have it, its not fair on the rest, if its not freely available to use.
@Yayzor: funny thing is, iv seen a screen shot with both you and stickyzor using the damian3k hud. So how about you email me the file, or if you have deleted if, get it off ur buddy stickyzor and sent it me.

So just because some people (Polish n00bs and morons mainly) use this cheat you it's fair for you to use it too? Ridiculous oppinion. Stop asking for cheats and learn how to play the game. Dumbass.

And would you mind stop spreading untrue rumours about my former mate and I? Thank you, asshole.

Quote from: Spekkio on June 18, 2009, 03:00:48 PM
Roberto, you're an idiot.

1) Search Youtube for old "pro" CT vids. Notice how they all have the stock, in-game merc hud when they show the merc's POV. Modifying a game's files in a way that removes an item's negative attributes (ie, the gasmask's restricted POV) is cheating.

2) Modifying the default.ini to get proper framerate settings is not hacking, it's something Ubi should've implemented when they released the game. Any game engine that automatically limits the player to 32 FPS is shitty. This was not done to balance the game; no other PC game in existance limits the player's FPS to this absurd level in an attempt to create more balance. Rather, it was just another example of lazy and poor Ubisoft programming when porting a console game to the PC. Tweaking default.ini settings to maximize game performance beyond what the in-game GUI graphics settings offer is a practice that is as old as PC games. If you call this "bullshit," you might as well call modifying your GPU driver settings "bullshit" as well, since it can affect game performance beyond what the in-game GUI settings offer.

3) The sound engine for this game sucks. Without EAX, it's impossible for spies to hear mines. With EAX, the mercs can hear spy actions from way too far away. Unfortunately, there's no medium, but it's quite possible to defeat people using EAX.

4) EMF ghosting is nothing special; everyone is capable of doing it. EMF quality is not affected by any graphics settings aside from resolution, and in that respect a higher resolution does not translate to being able to more easily spot spies (I did just fine on 1024x768).

5) STFU and lrn2play. kkthxbai.

Couldn't have said it better myself.

ok can someone post the link for the damian3k hud or e-mail me it to anni1357@googlemail.com

Wow, robertia hasn't replied yet.  How odd.

Perhaps he knows he was being an ass?

probably not tho lol

[frvge edit: no... US-style EULAs are not legal in the Netherlands]

So, technically, we can break them for UT3 :P?

I used to use the triple quick-use trick. still lost every game.

What fun it was.  ;D

what im trying to say here is that,
when u guys say

"fuck you, we are not going to give you the link to damian3k hud; we dont want you to cheat"

it suggests that you very well know what the damian3k HUD is, and odds are that you have indeed used it yourselves.

thats all im saying, and the fact alone that you guys are so pissy about spreading the cheats you have used yourselves is hypocrisy at its best.
I am 100% sure that all the "pros" in here know how to get this damian3k HUD.

You guys make your SCCT clans (which are conformed by a bunch of computer geeks), and have like these hacks and training maps that the clan members themselves make and share only with eachother  (example is the suspect dojo map which of coarse isnt a cheat, but im pretty sure theres a bunch of other crap they've done to tweak the game)


so fuck you, fuck your worthless and bogus-ass reputation, and fuck your smart ass attituds. stop hiding your dumbass tweaks and stop taking yourselves so seriously.

i want to see you guys have the fucking balls to tell this guy where to get this damian3k HUD, you have used it yourselves, dont say you havent. fucking douchebags.

get a life its just a game. (that goes especially to Agentx003, but also all the other self-proclaimed  "pros")

Quote from: Roberto1223 on June 19, 2009, 09:15:37 AM
get a life its just a game.

Same suggestion goes to you.

Seriously, Roberto, you're obviously so bad at CT that you have to blaim someone/something else than yourself. Fail. I don't know any good players who use the HUD, hax or unfair tweaks. If there actually are some who do they're definitely a minority.

And since when has Suspect Dojo been hidden for the public? Lmao, seems like someone have been playing a joke on you.

Quote from: Spekkio on June 18, 2009, 03:00:48 PM
EMF quality is not affected by any graphics settings aside from resolution.

Not true.

Quote from: Robertoit suggests that you very well know what the damian3k HUD is, and odds are that you have indeed used it yourselves.

That claim is a far stretch.

Yes, most people know what the damian3k hud is; he made numerous posts about it on the official ubi.com forums. However, you have no basis for accusing people of using this beyond the fact that it exists. The fact is, if you're going to question someone's integrity then you better bring some proof beyond conjecture.

PS: I never claimed to be a "pro" at CT, since I never got paid to play it. However, I presume you are using the word "pro" to refer to people who were exceptionally good at the game at one point.

Quoteand have like these hacks and training maps that the clan members themselves make and share only with eachother

What hacks?

Yes, the -US clan made a map to practice some skills and have fun with each other. What is wrong with that? No one is stopping you from making yourself a map however you'd like.

Quote from: lochangPerhaps he knows he was being an ass?

probably not tho lol

So smart lawlzrchang!

QuoteNot true.

Yes, true. Mr.Mic et al did extensive tests with this. The number one determining factor of a good EMF ghoster is an individual's eye for minor detail.

um, well thats bull, because emf is A LOT clearer with post-rendering quality set to very high.
I <3 how people return to the  "well Mr.Mic tested it". Fact is, MR.MIC was never very good so why trust his tests?! (MR.MIC if he played would get owned now -.- even if he got back to his original [low] standard)
@ Spekkio:
you tube and xfire screenshots are proof.
the one really saddening thing about you spekkio is that you still define your life by splinter cell, but DONT EVEN PLAY THE GAME EVEN MORE. Thats even sadder than people who still play it and take it seriously. FTR spekkio, you wern't very good either so quit preaching.
Now can somebody stop fucking around in here and just post me the link to damian3k hud. I KNOW that one of the hundreds of people in here, know either (1) damiens xfire or (2) the download link for the hud. So stop being jackasses and just PM me with it or post it here.

Quote from: blablablabla on June 19, 2009, 03:25:00 PM
Fact is, MR.MIC was never very good

Lies. He can easily own most of the people here.
You could say that I am not very good, cause I'm at best a med player, but saying that about Mic is simply a lie.

blablablabla, why should we give you cheats? Would mind answering me that question? And what is your real account? I highly doubt you're better than any of the people you try to mock.

Quote from: Inferno on June 19, 2009, 03:38:08 PM

Quote from: blablablabla on June 19, 2009, 03:25:00 PM
Fact is, MR.MIC was never very good

Lies. He can easily own most of the people here.
You could say that I am not very good, cause I'm at best a med player, but saying that about Mic is simply a lie.

agreed, because Mic set the standard of not breathing when you snipe , as well as when he played with havoc back in teh day, Mic would rip you a new asshole , maybe you could beat him in  pandora but definetly not in ct , cause i used to kick mic around :P in pt xD .

EMF ghosting is simply a bug abusing. It is something similar to cheating cause it is not fair and against the gameplay rules. I would compare it to escaping from grab when spy is hanging.

I love the noobs that come to the PS forums. Suspect Dojo was only meant for the -US clan, and when we were dropping off we released it. Spekkio, lochang, and Mic are far more knowledgable ( not to mention better) than most ppl here....aka you boons. Gtfo and lrn2play...

Quote from: Westfall on June 19, 2009, 05:02:36 PM
I love the noobs that come to the PS forums. Suspect Dojo was only meant for the -US clan, and when we were dropping off we released it. Spekkio, lochang, and Mic are far more knowledgable ( not to mention better) than most ppl here....aka you boons. Gtfo and lrn2play...

gee thanks :/  < / 3

@AgentX: when i started playing i never knew of/played Mr.Mic, because i played in lots of Dm etc. I never used the hold breath. Many others didnt either who dont know of Mr.Mic. So how can he be the standard.
Can someone PM me Damiens xfire pls.

DM players = noobs by default.

Quote from: Roberto1223 on June 19, 2009, 09:15:37 AM
it suggests that you very well know what the damian3k HUD is, and odds are that you have indeed used it yourselves.

Or, y'know, we don't like cheating, so we don't cheat ourselves, and we don't want other people to cheat either.


Just a possibility.

Quote from: blablablabla on June 19, 2009, 03:25:00 PM
So stop being jackasses and just PM me with it or post it here.

NO BLABLABLABLA. YOU ARE THE JACKASSES.

Never used the HUD, so I don't have it booncake.

Quote from: blablablabla on June 19, 2009, 03:25:00 PM
um, well thats bull, because emf is A LOT clearer with post-rendering quality set to very high.
I <3 how people return to the  "well Mr.Mic tested it". Fact is, MR.MIC was never very good so why trust his tests?! (MR.MIC if he played would get owned now -.- even if he got back to his original [low] standard)
@ Spekkio:
you tube and xfire screenshots are proof.
the one really saddening thing about you spekkio is that you still define your life by splinter cell, but DONT EVEN PLAY THE GAME EVEN MORE. Thats even sadder than people who still play it and take it seriously. FTR spekkio, you wern't very good either so quit preaching.
Now can somebody stop fucking around in here and just post me the link to damian3k hud. I KNOW that one of the hundreds of people in here, know either (1) damiens xfire or (2) the download link for the hud. So stop being jackasses and just PM me with it or post it here.

Someone likes penises...

"mic was never very good"

a kinesiologist doesn't have to be good at football.

Quote@ Spekkio:
you tube and xfire screenshots are proof.

I agree. So where are these screenshots of people who you are accusing of cheating?

Quoteum, well thats bull, because emf is A LOT clearer with post-rendering quality set to very high.
I <3 how people return to the  "well Mr.Mic tested it". Fact is, MR.MIC was never very good so why trust his tests?! (MR.MIC if he played would get owned now -.- even if he got back to his original [low] standard)

His tests involved posting screenshots of EMF while in normal/HQ post-render and normal/HQ shadow quality. EMF detail is exactly the same, while MT detail changes. Then, as a fun little game, he posted various screenshots seeing if people could spot the ghost.

But hey, believe what you want. High quality graphics settings must be cheating, anyway, right?

Quotethe one really saddening thing about you spekkio is that you still define your life by splinter cell, but DONT EVEN PLAY THE GAME EVEN MORE. Thats even sadder than people who still play it and take it seriously. FTR spekkio, you wern't very good either so quit preaching.

omg, ur rite! im gonna go cry myself to sleep cuz my only life meaning is through sc!

QuoteEMF ghosting is simply a bug abusing. It is something similar to cheating cause it is not fair and against the gameplay rules. I would compare it to escaping from grab when spy is hanging.

EMF ghosting is not a bug; it is simply the way the vision works. The fact that you dislike it does not automatically make it a bug.

Honestly, I like that EMF ghosting exists. The only issue is that Ubi should've taken better care to make maps with that in mind (ie, lighting up ceilings like in River Mall so that you can't ghost).

QuoteEMF ghosting is not a bug; it is simply the way the vision works.

It is a bug. If ghosting had been intended, it would work well on all settings and would not depend on your resolution. EMF was obviously created to track down spies who use electronic stuff. You shouldn't be able to see a spy when he doesn't use visions, walks slowly on ceiling and you can't see him directly. Ghosting allows you to shoot a spy that is even not moving. That's glitching and it pretty heavily imbalances the gameplay rules.

Quoteit would work well on all settings and would not depend on your resolution.

For the last time, it does not depend on resolution. When CT was new, no one was playing on 1900x1200 monitors; the highest resolution was 1280x1024. Most people ran 800x600 and 1024x768 and EMF ghosted just fine.

EMF always works this way. For something to be a bug, it has to change the way a mechanic ordinarilly works (eg, the animation bug).

People have to get over the fact that a spy can't sit in some corner out and the open and not get spotted.

Good luck with spotting anything on 800x600... I don't know anything about Mic's tests. What I know is that when I played on 800x600 - and I did play much some time ago, it was not possible to ghost.

ok, but let's even say that it is possible to ghost on every resolution and settings...

QuotePeople have to get over the fact that a spy can't sit in some corner out and the open and not get spotted.

It was still not created for that purpose. If it was, spy would become visible after sitting for a while.
Ghosting makes the whole vision complete nonsense. Since game is created with rock-paper-scissors system, there is no counter to ghosting. For every gadget, weapon or vision there has to be a counter in gadget, weapon or vision that works against it. If there is no, then the game is unbalanced.

Just because you weren't around back when the tests were done and posted about (and given that the game hasn't changed in, oh, 5? years!) doesn't mean they're invalid and inaccurate.  They were there, lots of people tried to spot the spy and lots could and lots couldn't, no matter what the resolution was.  Like Spekkio says, it was all down to the person being able to spot the details.

I run the game at 1600x1200 with everything set to high and I can't spot emf's for shit, but I know Spek can here and there, tinweasele (when he played) could, and Blackveldt (when she played) could, and her computer (at that time) was less powerful than mine...I think.

As far as Blabla and silly Roberto go, I don't have to defend myself to either of you but for arguments sake I've played since PT and have never cheated on any game whether PT or CT.  I'm very good (or was) in my own right from a lot of playtime and fighting through the last tournament with spekkio to 2nd place only to be beaten by a better team.  I don't call them cheaters for winning; they were just the better team.  We were bested and that's that. 

Not mentioning they'd had twice the logged xfire playtime we did.  :P  TWICE!  :)

When I posted those tests, it was found that quality had a negligible effect on the blue portion of the image, and the only visible difference was in the white, which was expanded more.

The following images are each made from 16 averaged frames to simulate the noise with motion blur.

High:
(https://community.projectstealthgame.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg188.imageshack.us%2Fimg188%2F4827%2F50769616.png&hash=5e2c30ca66af33254cb813d29ee6372da5a92b65)

Low:
(https://community.projectstealthgame.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg189.imageshack.us%2Fimg189%2F6622%2F84491858.png&hash=e2b0ef06e68ed82cbecf565d94065707d8f4ce26)

Yeah the images look different, but what matters in ghosting is the blue detail.

See what happens when I overlay the images and apply the following mask, where white is low and black is high:

(https://community.projectstealthgame.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg189.imageshack.us%2Fimg189%2F6486%2F83444107.png&hash=059a235bfdb5e2f3518a1ccb9e9bcf3874ef2ff2)

It becomes apparent that the only visible lines of contrast are where the white glow effect is, and the blue portions are virtually the same in both images.
(https://community.projectstealthgame.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg132.imageshack.us%2Fimg132%2F5943%2F80571857.png&hash=f4cc708460ce11a4a2af0400a166d24664d5474c)

QuoteSince game is created with rock-paper-scissors system, there is no counter to ghosting.

Sure there is, it just isn't sitting in a corner with no visions on like you want it to be.

Quote from: Spekkio on June 20, 2009, 02:31:53 AM

QuoteSince game is created with rock-paper-scissors system, there is no counter to ghosting.

Sure there is, it just isn't sitting in a corner with no visions on like you want it to be.

but the thing is the spy should be able to because he isn't using any electronics

but to go into scientific theory of things, the body does produce a little bit of electricity ,
hence rub ur feet with socks on a carpet and touch metal , you will create a static shock.

so in example if a spy is walking around you with no visions on or sitting in a dark corner , you shouldn' be able to see them unless they have thier visions , hence the acronym EMF= Electro magnetic field vision :/. 

I highly dought, for arguments sake, that the spy suit has 0 EM output while no visions are active.  There's gotta be some electrical stuff operating somewhere in it.

Either way, it IS the way it is and nothing's gonna change that.  Deal with it people.

Just don't blame it on hacks and cheats that people here don't use.

Quote from: Spekkio on June 20, 2009, 02:31:53 AM

QuoteSince game is created with rock-paper-scissors system, there is no counter to ghosting.

Sure there is, it just isn't sitting in a corner with no visions on like you want it to be.

So, what's the gadget/vision counter working directly against ghosting ?

QuoteI highly dought, for arguments sake, that the spy suit has 0 EM output while no visions are active.  There's gotta be some electrical stuff operating somewhere in it.

I highly doubt UBI thought about it when they created the game.


Merc visions are unbalanced. EMF has it's ghosting and MT can be used as Nightvision. Using such imperfections is glitching and it doesn't matter if it requires good eyes or experience in the game.


@Mic

Did you test it on very different resolutions ?

QuoteEither way, it IS the way it is and nothing's gonna change that.  Deal with it people.

Sure, but the point of this discussion is to make sure they won't make it to the PS.

Quote from: neth on June 20, 2009, 10:50:55 AM
Using such imperfections is glitching and it doesn't matter if it requires good eyes or experience in the game.

You think MT night vision is a glitch.



Duuuuuuuuuuuuude.

Quotebut the thing is the spy should be able to because he isn't using any electronics

And the spies should go into a guarded area with more than just a silly sticky shocker, but the fact is that they don't.

Like I said, EMF ghosting is not a glitch just because it isn't the way you think it should be.

Quote
Merc visions are unbalanced. EMF has it's ghosting and MT can be used as Nightvision. Using such imperfections is glitching and it doesn't matter if it requires good eyes or experience in the game.

You're missing the point; I'm not arguing one way or another that EMF/MT is balanced or not. What I am arguing is that EMF ghosting is not a bug or glitch.

QuoteSo, what's the gadget/vision counter working directly against ghosting ?

I was about to answer this question when I noticed that I'm talking to someone who puts spaces in front of question marks.

Actually the only thing you prove in this topic is that any kind of discussion with you is pointless, as you avoid answering given arguments and just keep repeating same shit over and over again as if you were talking to yourself.

QuoteI was about to answer this question when I noticed that I'm talking to someone who puts spaces in front of question marks.

What a nice answer...pretty childish
I may place question marks the wrong way but hey, at least I know that Libya is not an European country.

Quotepretty childish

Childish is whining on a forum about a game mechanic because you're too stupid to overcome it.

Quoteas you avoid answering given arguments

What given arguments? You haven't produced any proof whatsoever that EMF ghosting is a bug and/or glitch.

QuoteI may place question marks the wrong way but hey, at least I know that Libya is not an European country.

Nice try, but you might want to have a quote of me saying that before you attempt to use it as an insult.

Still no arguments for direct gadget/vision counter for ghosting ? You may keep insulting me but it doesn't change anything.
If you see no arguments, then read again. I told you how badly it affects the gameplay, why it shouldn't be there and why it is against the mechanics but when we got to the point at which I wanted to hear one, single argument from you, you started provoking. How pathetic is this ?

QuoteNice try, but you might want to have a quote of me saying that before you attempt to use it as an insult.

You said it on scl forums and I remember it very well but I'm not gonna waste my time on searching it.
Keep pretending to be a specialist in everything, it makes things even funnier.

Quote
Still no arguments for direct gadget/vision counter for ghosting ?

What does it matter? The issue is whether or not it is a bug, not whether or not it can be countered.

QuoteYou said it on scl forums and I remember it very well but I'm not gonna waste my time on searching it.

You either have me confused with someone else, or took a non-serious post out of context.

EDIT: I searched for Libya on SCLamers, and the only thread that came up was this:

http://sclamers.17.forumer.com/viewtopic.php?t=1435&start=0

Quote from: neth on June 20, 2009, 04:18:14 PM
I told you how badly it affects the gameplay, why it shouldn't be there and why it is against the mechanics

So, nothing which actually relates to whether it's a glitch or not.



You don't actually know what the word glitch means, do you.

It was about Lebanon, not libya

QuoteIs Lebanon in Eastern Europe? Yes. So is his statement saying that some people in Eastern Europe live in war zones true? Yes.

http://sclamers.17.forumer.com/viewtopic.php?t=1948&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=15


Anyway, it doesn't matter. What matters is:

QuoteI was about to answer this question when I noticed that I'm talking to someone who puts spaces in front of question marks.

QuoteWhat does it matter?

So a few hours ago it mattered and now it doesn't? So let me again tell you why it matters:

Quotegame is created with rock-paper-scissors system, there is no counter to ghosting. For every gadget, weapon or vision there has to be a counter in gadget, weapon or vision that works against it.

As the main target of the game creators is to create balanced game, we may easily assume that they head towards that target and they don't want unbalanced things. We may also assume that when they create a whole game based on aforementioned system, they won't add things that bring disorder out of sudden. As there is no counter in vision or gadget to ghosting it creates that disorder and it is obvious that it was not wanted by the developers but due to their ignorance it was not fixed.

EMF ghosting is a tough one for me. Shows no reward for a spy moving around with his devices turned off. While I understand the argument of "well he must have something still electrical on"...well then, his whole body should be lit up. The shocker isn't the only thing to light up when he whips that bad boy out correct?

IMO ghosting was cheap. It was an exploit, and if you couldn't notice it then you need to have your eyes checked. I could see the outline using EMF, but I stopped when I realized how ridiculous it was. People still used it against me, and it just shows what ppl will do to win. It's a glitch in the sense there shouldn't be an outline of the spy when he's not electrically active. Was there a ghost in PT? I played PT for like a weak then CT beta came out.

So, yeah...ghosting is cheap, weak...whatever you would like to term it and easily...EASILY should NOT be involved with ANYTHING surrounding PS, which Mic has already accomplished from what the PS-EMF video has shown.

P.S. there is no way to counter it as a spy. You would either have to confuse the merc to thinking you weren't there (Museum entrance) or just try and roll through. Good times.

If Devs overlooked 'desactivated' for 2-3 patches, I'm pretty sure they overlooked the EMF-bug. Having a good EMF-ghosting sniper in Museum is just unbalanced, 1-shot-1-kill and not the way it's meant to be played.

Personally, only after I spot a Spy in EMF who then turns his visions off because he notices me, I try to find him with slightly moving around. That fails > 99% for me, so usually I don't bother and lob a frag which gets me the kill :)

Quote from: neth on June 20, 2009, 05:42:17 PM

QuoteIs Lebanon in Eastern Europe? Yes. So is his statement saying that some people in Eastern Europe live in war zones true? Yes.

I'm with Spekkio when it comes to EMF ghosting. But seriously, that comment.. LoL.

Quote from: neth on June 20, 2009, 10:50:55 AMSure, but the point of this discussion is to make sure they won't make it to the PS.

Hey Neth, try viewing the video they've made of the vision modes in PS.  You'll clearly see they've already taken this into account.

Wow, it's even on the front page of this site, it's like you had to ignore it to not see it!

Therefore, the whole point of this is nothing because they've already fixed the issue.

DROP IT.

EDIT: Typical euro garbage about American ignorance.  People make mistakes, big whoop.  At least Americans haven't been the ones ruining CT with insane hacks and Damian3k huds.  Those euros are assholes.

Quote from: LoChang on June 20, 2009, 09:26:25 PM

Quote from: neth on June 20, 2009, 10:50:55 AMSure, but the point of this discussion is to make sure they won't make it to the PS.

Hey Neth, try viewing the video they've made of the vision modes in PS.  You'll clearly see they've already taken this into account.

Wow, it's even on the front page of this site, it's like you had to ignore it to not see it!

Therefore, the whole point of this is nothing because they've already fixed the issue.

DROP IT.

EDIT: Typical euro garbage about American ignorance.  People make mistakes, big whoop.  At least Americans haven't been the ones ruining CT with insane hacks and Damian3k huds.  Those euros are assholes.

WOW am im not a racist for once omg , people actually see my wonderful insight

Quote from: AgentX_003 on June 20, 2009, 09:44:11 PM

Quote from: LoChang on June 20, 2009, 09:26:25 PM

Quote from: neth on June 20, 2009, 10:50:55 AMSure, but the point of this discussion is to make sure they won't make it to the PS.

Hey Neth, try viewing the video they've made of the vision modes in PS.  You'll clearly see they've already taken this into account.

Wow, it's even on the front page of this site, it's like you had to ignore it to not see it!

Therefore, the whole point of this is nothing because they've already fixed the issue.

DROP IT.

EDIT: Typical euro garbage about American ignorance.  People make mistakes, big whoop.  At least Americans haven't been the ones ruining CT with insane hacks and Damian3k huds.  Those euros are assholes.

WOW am im not a racist for once omg , people actually see my wonderful insight , I bow to thee lochang :D pals :/. ?

It's not racist when it's simply true.  Where have all the hacks originated and who are the predominant users?  12-15 year olds from the european continent.

This has gone off track though as the original complaint (EMF shadows) have already been addressed and solved by the PS team.  Talking about hacks and "who said what" is just childish.  blablablabla should just crawl into a hole and die and leave the rest of us legitimate players alone.

tyvmuch

Quote from: LoChang on June 20, 2009, 10:02:54 PM
It's not racist when it's simply true.  Where have all the hacks originated and who are the predominant users?  12-15 year olds from the european continent.

This has gone off track though as the original complaint (EMF shadows) have already been addressed and solved by the PS team.  Talking about hacks and "who said what" is just childish.  blablablabla should just crawl into a hole and die and leave the rest of us legitimate players alone.

tyvmuch

Amen.

QuoteHey Neth, try viewing the video they've made of the vision modes in PS.  You'll clearly see they've already taken this into account.

I saw it but must have missed the moment when Mic talked about ghosting. Did he mention it?

QuoteTypical euro garbage about American ignorance.  People make mistakes, big whoop.

Notice that Spekkio used the dirty attack first against me.

QuoteWhere have all the hacks originated and who are the predominant users?  12-15 year olds from the european continent.

Although I see no logical explanation for this, I have to agree that there's something wrong with many Europeans in this game. Perhaps its because not many people from States play this game online, so the percentage of retards is also lower.
I may be wrong but as I remember people in PT were much more friendly and were not acting as morons so many times.

Neth, if you watch the video...meaning actually watch it, you will notice when the spy doesn't have anything active, he's INVISIBLE.  Check it out again.

"all the hacks" is not a percentage. ALL of them have originated in the european player base.  I'm not attacking the respectable players and community members in europe, there are many, but you yourself admit there's no logical explanation and there's something wrong.  There are retards everywhere sure, but all the hacks come from your neck of the woods.

Again, the ghosting issue ISN'T AN ISSUE in PS, it's already confirmed.

Sorry if this isn't 'friendly' enough for you but I'm a type of person that says what he's thinking and doesn't hide behind niceties.  It's also, usually, the truth.

Quote from: LoChang on June 20, 2009, 10:57:59 PM

Again, the ghosting issue ISN'T AN ISSUE in PS, it's already confirmed.

Some people haven't gotten that yet.....

"Also notice the electrically inactive spy: electrically inactive spies are completely invisible under EMF."

From the video that you watched.

Notice however, the added catch: Electically inactive spies now silhouette against electically active objects.

Quote from: neth on June 20, 2009, 10:50:55 AM
@Mic

Did you test it on very different resolutions ?

Here is another test.
Same method as before, 16 frames averaged for each setting and then compared using the same masking pattern.

Image 1: 800x600 @ normal post
Image 2: 1600x1200 @ high post
Image 3: comparison with a striped mask

Two very different resolutions and post settings

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And again, only the white part is affected, and the blue portion is virtually the same.

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Also, here is an (exaggerated) difference image between the two:

White means large change between the two, and black means no change between the two.

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But is there a Spy in the picture  ::)

QuoteIt was about Lebanon, not libya

You're right...I mistakingly thought that a country that is racially caucasian, borders the Mediterranean, and is typically politically lumped in with the Eastern European region was part of Europe. Sue me.

I'll tell you what: one day when you get out of school and start actually working, I'll ask you to point out Nebraska on a map. Writing, on the other hand, never goes away.

QuoteSo a few hours ago it mattered and now it doesn't? So let me again tell you why it matters:

It never mattered. That's why I never answered your question. The point is that something doesn't automatically become a bug because you think it's unbalanced.

Your original statement was that EMF ghosting was a bug. When multiple people called you out on it, you attempted to divert this thread to a balance discussion. The two are not related.

You know, if you spent half the time trying to think of a way around EMF ghosting instead of whining on here, you might realize why the game is so fun.

QuoteNeth, if you watch the video...meaning actually watch it, you will notice when the spy doesn't have anything active, he's INVISIBLE.  Check it out again.

We'll see if/when the game is released, but the same things that allow the spies to sneak more easily often allow them not to sneak more easily. Case in point: EMF ghosting is an often-used anti-aggro technique to see through smoke clouds and defend yourself. Meanwhile, the only time EMF ghosting ever really impeded sneaking was the ceiling of Museum. In the scheme of things, changing EMF ghosting is going to have a minimal effect on sneaking around because good mercs are constantly cycling visions anyway.

Like MT, I'd really rather have seen the range of this vision reduced. Moving mercs = vulnerable mercs, but you can also defend against aggro. That, and a small 1 secondish "adjustment" phase where the screen is all red/blue when you switch visions so you can't sit there and cycle through all 3 constantly and instantly pick up a spy.

QuoteNotice however, the added catch: Electically inactive spies now silhouette against electically active objects

This isn't new. I've caught many a spy perched next to the bulldozer in Factory because the bulldozer lights up on EMF.

Quote from: frvge on June 20, 2009, 11:48:40 PM
But is there a Spy in the picture  ::)

Spies use the same semitransparent shader that almost every other transparent surface uses.
A shader is a shader is a shader. It has input conditions and output colors, resolution doesn't affect the output colors.

the name damian3k, sounds like the kind of name a dude that has been playing since PT would have, or that joins "pro" clans and shit... lol. just a thought.

Quote from: Roberto1223 on June 21, 2009, 12:49:33 AM
the name damian3k, sounds like the kind of name a dude that has been playing since PT would have, or that joins "pro" clans and shit... lol. just a thought.

The funny thing is... You're right!

Quotetypically politically lumped in with the Eastern European region

No, it is not.

QuoteYour original statement was that EMF ghosting was a bug. When multiple people called you out on it, you attempted to divert this thread to a balance discussion. The two are not related.

I explained it in my last post, not gonna do this again.

This thread sucks tbqh.


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Quote from: LoChang on June 20, 2009, 10:57:59 PM
"all the hacks" is not a percentage. ALL of them have originated in the european player base.  I'm not attacking the respectable players and community members in europe, there are many, but you yourself admit there's no logical explanation and there's something wrong.  There are retards everywhere sure, but all the hacks come from your neck of the woods.

Lochang, did you forget that Europe is not one big country? I think you did. Just because the eastern part of Europe (the former USSR part) is one big pile of shit, Europe in general doesn't suck ballz.

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QuoteP.S. there is no way to counter it as a spy. You would either have to confuse the merc to thinking you weren't there (Museum entrance) or just try and roll through. Good times.

There certainly were ways to counter EMF ghosting as spy. The example you use, Museum, is a bottleneck at the beginning in general. Yes, if a merc zooms in at the only vent you can come through, he's going to see your EMF ghost. So what? As you said, just roll through and get to the wires. Even without ghosting, the merc can just move a room back and sit on the next vent with the flashlight or laser locked on you while the other hangs around the door/windows. It's not really that difficult to know where you are when there are only 3 ways into the entire map, and one of the 3 makes a gigantic WHOOOOSH noise.

As for getting around it: partner can shock, you can shock, you can wait until the merc looks in another direction, you can keep a distance on larger maps, you can stay behind objects that are solid in EMF or areas that are difficult to ghost, you can hit the merc with a chaff.

Changing EMF ghosting isn't going to significantly change anything. If a merc is EMF ghosting you, most of the time he already knows where you are.

Like I said, people have to get over this notion that they should be able to maneuver out in the open in front of the merc unnoticed.

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I should keep posting so Rocket posts more pics

I should keep spamming pics so everyone else gives up on posting.


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(Fuck.)

QuoteI should keep spamming pics so everyone else gives up on posting.

That sounds like a challenge!

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Spekkio I do not see why you gotta be like dat.

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UH SPEKKIO ARE YOU GIVING UP ALREADY BECAUSE Y'KNOW THIS IS GOING ON YOUR PERMANENT RECORD SO.

Not giving up...you were just too slow so I stopped viewing the page for a few minutes.

That's one screwed up bunny...

I can't help but feel happy when I look up cute pictures of her and Reisen but then I feel bad because I'm enjoying looking at pictures of anime rabbit girls.


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Life is hard, yeah.

Mamma always said life is like a box of chocolates.

I have no idea what's going on in this pic but y'know whatever it's not like anyone expects my posts to make sense.

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C'mon, you can figure that one out...there's a fat chick who wants to shoot you with her "LAY-ZER."

But Reiuji shoots suns, not lasers!


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Seriously ask Gui I've been educating him about this he's an expert now it is most excellent.

Dont you have enough room for Japanese etc bs in your whole subsection at SCL?

No, not really. It's fun, and the topic's shit, so why stop?

I don't see how posting things there is going to stop people posting in shit threads here, boss.

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Hawt.

My mistake, Orin in the previous picture was not actually nude.


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Quote from: Spekkio on June 21, 2009, 03:10:36 PM

QuoteP.S. there is no way to counter it as a spy. You would either have to confuse the merc to thinking you weren't there (Museum entrance) or just try and roll through. Good times.

There certainly were ways to counter EMF ghosting as spy. The example you use, Museum, is a bottleneck at the beginning in general. Yes, if a merc zooms in at the only vent you can come through, he's going to see your EMF ghost. So what? As you said, just roll through and get to the wires. Even without ghosting, the merc can just move a room back and sit on the next vent with the flashlight or laser locked on you while the other hangs around the door/windows. It's not really that difficult to know where you are when there are only 3 ways into the entire map, and one of the 3 makes a gigantic WHOOOOSH noise.

As for getting around it: partner can shock, you can shock, you can wait until the merc looks in another direction, you can keep a distance on larger maps, you can stay behind objects that are solid in EMF or areas that are difficult to ghost, you can hit the merc with a chaff.

Changing EMF ghosting isn't going to significantly change anything. If a merc is EMF ghosting you, most of the time he already knows where you are.

Like I said, people have to get over this notion that they should be able to maneuver out in the open in front of the merc unnoticed.

I understand what you're saying about getting around it. It's common sense. However, it should not have been an issue in the first place. I already had to watch my footprints on the ceiling along with turning on visions or usig the shocker. I shouldn't have to be concerned about if some merc can magically see me through a ceiling though I'm not doing anything to give away my position. Again, it has already been solved... So back to the pictures.

stop posting already christ


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Lmao, according to the time of posting, ambiguous rocket is so sad he checks this forum around every 10min to post some random image. looooooser

It's not to hard to switch over and refresh pretty frequently when you're playing a game windowed, especially when it pauses after every fight to give you a score summary.



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In any case, I can content myself with the knowledge that I'm still better than the guy who's pathetic enough to want to cheat at a video game, and stupid enough to think we'd help him do it, right?

Agreed.

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Message To Harry Manback lyrics TOOL
[words in brackets unclear]

Figlio di puttana, sai che tu sei un pezzo di merda? [1]

Hm? You think you're cool, right? Hm? Hm?
When you kicked out people [out of] your house

I tell you this, one of three Americans die of cancer,
you know? Asshole.
You're gonna be one of those.

I [don't have the] courage
to kick your ass directly.
Don't have enough courage for that,
I could, you know.

You know you're gonna have another accident?
You know I'm involved with black magic?
Fuck you. Die. Bastard.
You think you're so cool, hm? Asshole.

And if I ever see your fucking face around,
In Europe or Italy,
Well I'll -- That time I'm gonna kick your ass.
Fuck you. Fucking Americans, Yankee.
You're gonna die outta cancer, I promise.

[Bang bang / Deep pain]

No one does what you did to me.
You wanna know something? Fuck you.
I want your balls smashed, eat shit. Bastard.

Pezzo di merda, figlio di puttana. [2]
I hope somebody in your family dies soon.

Crepa, pezzo di merda, e vai
a sucare cazzi su un aereo! [3]

[1] Son of a bitch, do you know you are a piece of shit?
[2] Piece of shit, son of a bitch.
[3] Die, piece of shit, and go suck dicks on a plane!

Wow nice retort.  Did you cut/paste that?  Awesome.

Quote from: YaYz0r on June 21, 2009, 12:05:30 PM

Quote from: LoChang on June 20, 2009, 10:57:59 PM
"all the hacks" is not a percentage. ALL of them have originated in the european player base.  I'm not attacking the respectable players and community members in europe, there are many, but you yourself admit there's no logical explanation and there's something wrong.  There are retards everywhere sure, but all the hacks come from your neck of the woods.

Lochang, did you forget that Europe is not one big country? I think you did. Just because the eastern part of Europe (the former USSR part) is one big pile of shit, Europe in general doesn't suck ballz.

Excuse me?  I may not know where on a map Lebanon is, but I do know Europe is a continent of countries.  Don't try to insult my intelligence too much.  And why do you care anyway?

hahahha the internet is hardly the place to test intelligence.
Here is a question: what is the square root of 2 to 10 decimal places.
Oh hang on, we can all find that out by just googling.
Lol people who claim greater 'intelligence' on the internet are just morons.

Yeah, yeah, you can make all the excuses you want, but you'd still have to be an idiot to think that showing up here and just asking for hacks would work. Sorry dude.



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Quote from: LoChang on June 22, 2009, 08:02:54 AM
Wow nice retort.  Did you cut/paste that?  Awesome.

Quote from: YaYz0r on June 21, 2009, 12:05:30 PM

Quote from: LoChang on June 20, 2009, 10:57:59 PM
"all the hacks" is not a percentage. ALL of them have originated in the european player base.  I'm not attacking the respectable players and community members in europe, there are many, but you yourself admit there's no logical explanation and there's something wrong.  There are retards everywhere sure, but all the hacks come from your neck of the woods.

Lochang, did you forget that Europe is not one big country? I think you did. Just because the eastern part of Europe (the former USSR part) is one big pile of shit, Europe in general doesn't suck ballz.

Excuse me?  I may not know where on a map Lebanon is, but I do know Europe is a continent of countries.  Don't try to insult my intelligence too much.  And why do you care anyway?

I don't try to insult your intelligence. All I'm trying to say is that you generalize pretty darn much.

Quote from: YaYz0r on June 22, 2009, 12:54:08 PM

Quote from: LoChang on June 22, 2009, 08:02:54 AM
Wow nice retort.  Did you cut/paste that?  Awesome.

Quote from: YaYz0r on June 21, 2009, 12:05:30 PM

Quote from: LoChang on June 20, 2009, 10:57:59 PM
"all the hacks" is not a percentage. ALL of them have originated in the european player base.  I'm not attacking the respectable players and community members in europe, there are many, but you yourself admit there's no logical explanation and there's something wrong.  There are retards everywhere sure, but all the hacks come from your neck of the woods.

Lochang, did you forget that Europe is not one big country? I think you did. Just because the eastern part of Europe (the former USSR part) is one big pile of shit, Europe in general doesn't suck ballz.

Excuse me?  I may not know where on a map Lebanon is, but I do know Europe is a continent of countries.  Don't try to insult my intelligence too much.  And why do you care anyway?

I don't try to insult your intelligence. All I'm trying to say is that you generalize pretty darn much.

Quoteeastern part of Europe (the former USSR part) is one big pile of shit,

Yea, and you don't generalize at all.

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Quote from: blablablabla on June 22, 2009, 11:41:38 AM
hahahha the internet is hardly the place to test intelligence.
Here is a question: what is the square root of 2 to 10 decimal places.
Oh hang on, we can all find that out by just googling.
Lol people who claim greater 'intelligence' on the internet are just morons.

Intelligence isn't about knowledge ;).

Quote from: Spekkio on June 22, 2009, 03:17:25 PM
best box-art ever:

There's a picture of that in one of the DS games, y'know. I laughed.



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Quote from: neth on June 22, 2009, 03:00:37 PM

Quote from: YaYz0r on June 22, 2009, 12:54:08 PM

Quote from: LoChang on June 22, 2009, 08:02:54 AM
Wow nice retort.  Did you cut/paste that?  Awesome.

Quote from: YaYz0r on June 21, 2009, 12:05:30 PM

Quote from: LoChang on June 20, 2009, 10:57:59 PM
"all the hacks" is not a percentage. ALL of them have originated in the european player base.  I'm not attacking the respectable players and community members in europe, there are many, but you yourself admit there's no logical explanation and there's something wrong.  There are retards everywhere sure, but all the hacks come from your neck of the woods.

Lochang, did you forget that Europe is not one big country? I think you did. Just because the eastern part of Europe (the former USSR part) is one big pile of shit, Europe in general doesn't suck ballz.

Excuse me?  I may not know where on a map Lebanon is, but I do know Europe is a continent of countries.  Don't try to insult my intelligence too much.  And why do you care anyway?

I don't try to insult your intelligence. All I'm trying to say is that you generalize pretty darn much.

Quoteeastern part of Europe (the former USSR part) is one big pile of shit,

Yea, and you don't generalize at all.

No, I'm just telling the truth.  ;)

Quote from: YaYz0r on June 22, 2009, 04:17:29 PMNo, I'm just telling the truth.  ;)

We know
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Quote from: YaYz0r on June 22, 2009, 12:54:08 PM
All I'm trying to say is that you generalize pretty darn much.

Am I wrong?  Do the hacks and cheats for CT NOT originate in Europe?  I clearly said the people that created them were assholes, not EVERYONE in Europe.  Jeez.

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Fucking Americans, your going to die soon of cancer fucking cock suckers.
Fuck you, fuck you fucking americans. you think your cool? go suck a dick.
(with arab accent lol)

you guys gotta listen to that tool song its pretty interesting. "message to harrymanback" or something like that.

Quote from: Roberto1223 on June 18, 2009, 10:12:09 AM
wow, the fact that i dont know anything about all these "top secret" hacks and stuff makes me think that all the self-proclaimed "pros" are probably a bunch of morons that try to hide these things from other players in order to have advantage in games. pathetic...

yet you still believe this project stealth is something more than a lacksadasiy effort to revive SCCT, and while theye at it why not rob customers of their hard-earned cash? not robbing them you say? eithe the price will be 29.99 or bette yet fee because they openly admit theye copying clubhouse as their major graphical asset besides the playe models (which look 10x wose than my m9 model unfinished... you tavo is ugly and the ACOG look like it is made or silk coveing a banana.

Haha, look who it is...Mr. Attention-Whore.

Thought I smelled a stench in here and here you are!

Here, you dropped something:  )

Quote from: ray mysertio on June 26, 2009, 09:43:28 AM
you tavo is ugly and the ACOG look like it is made or silk coveing a banana.

That may well be the case in your opinion, but I believe it is a fact that your face looks like it has been fucked from various different positions. Prove that I'm wrong.

Dude, I don't wanna see Dimz face. =/ Stop giving him ideas.

Quote from: frvge on June 26, 2009, 12:27:32 PM
Dude, I don't wanna see Dimz face. =/ Stop giving him ideas.

Ban or Rang   time

Quote from: ray mysertio on June 26, 2009, 09:43:28 AM

Quote from: Roberto1223 on June 18, 2009, 10:12:09 AM
wow, the fact that i dont know anything about all these "top secret" hacks and stuff makes me think that all the self-proclaimed "pros" are probably a bunch of morons that try to hide these things from other players in order to have advantage in games. pathetic...

yet you still believe this project stealth is something more than a lacksadasiy effort to revive SCCT, and while theye at it why not rob customers of their hard-earned cash? not robbing them you say? eithe the price will be 29.99 or bette yet fee because they openly admit theye copying clubhouse as their major graphical asset besides the playe models (which look 10x wose than my m9 model unfinished... you tavo is ugly and the ACOG look like it is made or silk coveing a banana.

Oh thank god we have your input now. We always need the special education input to meet the PS quota.

Um actually roberto is right, there are cheaters and cheater clans.
Promo pic from some nub iv banned forevers attempt to create a clan a while back. Apparently if i would have joined i could have had the same hack. Bann these fuckers 4eva.

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pity, wanted to get back into this game, seems im gonna have to stick with cod4 until PS comes out.

youre right i am dickface and im raging mad about it :

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btw sacrificing realism just to do less work aka. balancing is a pathetic excuse to shove off an inferior product and still think of yourselves as kings.

i reAD YOUR "NO COMPANY CAN OWN THE sam MARKET" SPEECH YOU GUYS ARE TRULY SAD.

Someone show this lady some manners

sweet chams cheat, where can i get this? Anyone with adunix's xfire?

For someone who pretends to understand what makes games fun, why do you say that PS is...

Quote from: ray mysertio on June 26, 2009, 10:06:54 PM
sacrificing realism just to do less work

Where's the sacrifice? It depends on the direction of the game.

agentxslover, you suck.

blablablabla, you suck even more.

1st:why should adunix make some screen shot of hisself using hacks and upload it?

2nd:how easy is it to edit such a screen shot and put another name under it?

3rd:look at the name adunix: its more on the top than normal

4th:there is a hacker in scct who goes online with others accounts and play with it (same happened with adunix)

I dont know why all of you got the ass opened and believe in some bullshit someone posted in here.

Quote from: rounix on June 27, 2009, 07:07:06 PM
1st:why should adunix make some screen shot of hisself using hacks and upload it?

2nd:how easy is it to edit such a screen shot and put another name under it?

3rd:look at the name adunix: its more on the top than normal

4th:there is a hacker in scct who goes online with others accounts and play with it (same happened with adunix)

I dont know why all of you got the ass opened and believe in some bullshit someone posted in here.

Well hello adunix's bff. I don't know who this person is, but even then what does it matter?? Can't believe CT is still goin. I can't believe it's still even taken seriously, since most (if not all) of the good players stopped playing.

most good players stop playing?
who did stop playing? rofl

Quote from: rounix on June 27, 2009, 07:29:11 PM

Code Select Expand

10 most good players stop playing?
20 who did stop playing? rofl
30 GOTO 10

rounix i see you playing with adunix, you know his xfire so i can get this cheat?
You are x6 also? maybe this is cheater clan too. I can join?! Then i can have your cheats pls answer me.
Seems nice cheat :D

@Yayzor: fuck you turdface...maybe you have this cheat like the damian3k hud you wouldnt give me
YAYZOR IS A CHEATER!!!

Haha, yeah everyone join a cheater clan for a 5 year old game!  Pwnage!

Quote from: blablablabla on June 27, 2009, 09:46:32 PM
rounix i see you playing with adunix, you know his xfire so i can get this cheat?
You are x6 also? maybe this is cheater clan too. I can join?! Then i can have your cheats pls answer me.
Seems nice cheat :D

@Yayzor: fuck you turdface...maybe you have this cheat like the damian3k hud you wouldnt give me
YAYZOR IS A CHEATER!!!

retard of the week

People suck so they cheat . Adunix is fine . I've played some games with him , he just has good eyes and ears.

Quote from: ShareZa on June 28, 2009, 12:33:21 PM

Quote from: blablablabla on June 27, 2009, 09:46:32 PM
rounix i see you playing with adunix, you know his xfire so i can get this cheat?
You are x6 also? maybe this is cheater clan too. I can join?! Then i can have your cheats pls answer me.
Seems nice cheat :D

@Yayzor: fuck you turdface...maybe you have this cheat like the damian3k hud you wouldnt give me
YAYZOR IS A CHEATER!!!

retard of the week

How would you know he's the retard of the week when you've only got one post, EH? :o

Quote from: STON3COLDKILLA on June 28, 2009, 02:58:08 PM

Quote from: ShareZa on June 28, 2009, 12:33:21 PM

Quote from: blablablabla on June 27, 2009, 09:46:32 PM
rounix i see you playing with adunix, you know his xfire so i can get this cheat?
You are x6 also? maybe this is cheater clan too. I can join?! Then i can have your cheats pls answer me.
Seems nice cheat :D

@Yayzor: fuck you turdface...maybe you have this cheat like the damian3k hud you wouldnt give me
YAYZOR IS A CHEATER!!!

retard of the week

How would you know he's the retard of the week when you've only got one post, EH? :o

i read the whole topic and its enough to say that he's a retard.

Forum smurfing is like the most retarded thing ever...

that makes you the biggest pathetic retard of all time.




and yes im  pretty sure people in this forum  have the damian3k hud and yet they bitch saying things like "GTFO blablabla we dont want cheaters in here!"

Quote from: Roberto1223 on June 29, 2009, 12:40:22 AM
Forum smurfing is like the most retarded thing ever...

that makes you the biggest pathetic retard of all time.




and yes im  pretty sure people in this forum  have the damian3k hud and yet they bitch saying things like "GTFO blablabla we dont want cheaters in here!"

Name some or shut up already......nm, just stfu.

Shareza you are x6 also? Can i have your xfire so you can send me your cheats.
Or you must have adunix's xfire or any of x6 clan. I want this cheat in screenshot!!
Please send me!!!

lol @ westfall, you shut the fuck up!... wow.. what a dumb flame war...

STILL arguing about cheats to a five year old game nobody plays?

I'd say I'm shocked but I'm not.  So I won't say it.

Too late...

Quote from: Roberto1223 on June 29, 2009, 12:40:22 AM
and yes im  pretty sure people in this forum  have the damian3k hud and yet they bitch saying things like "GTFO blablabla we dont want cheaters in here!"

Yeah well I'm pretty sure you love cock. JUST BECAUSE.


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Guys, can you please stop discussing cheats? If you want to continue, please take it to a PM.

Quote from: blablablabla on June 29, 2009, 02:34:24 AM
Shareza you are x6 also? Can i have your xfire so you can send me your cheats.
Or you must have adunix's xfire or any of x6 clan. I want this cheat in screenshot!!
Please send me!!!

::)

I hate people who have to find an answer for their lost games.
The fastest one is to say that the opponents are cheating.  :o

QuoteSTILL arguing about cheats to a five year old game nobody plays?

Why are you still walking around through this topics then?

Through this topic OR through these topics.

He's talking about the kids playing the five year old game. Doesn't mean he plays and this is also the PS forum.....not the CT forum.

Quote from: Westfall on June 30, 2009, 04:15:59 PM
Through this topic OR through these topics.

He's talking about the kids playing the five year old game. Doesn't mean he plays and this is also the PS forum.....not the CT forum.

everybody who still play this game is a kid for you? :D

um yea shereza actually everyone is a kid since most of are about 18-42

and most kids that play ct now an days that theres mostly only euros are ,irresponsible parents who let thier 14 year old son / or daughter play and below :/.

Quote from: ShareZa on June 30, 2009, 05:27:25 PM

Quote from: Westfall on June 30, 2009, 04:15:59 PM
Through this topic OR through these topics.

He's talking about the kids playing the five year old game. Doesn't mean he plays and this is also the PS forum.....not the CT forum.

everybody who still play this game is a kid for you? :D

Though your comment has nothing to do with what was being discussed, yes...kids. Its a bold statement, since I' stopped playing a while ago, but for little nerds to be looking for hax or cheats to the game....kids seems like a correct label.

'Children' preferrable?

Anyone asking how to cheat at an online game = idiot, or 'kid'.

Only assholes cheat at online games to win.  Piece of shit losers actually.

Play legit, win legit.

ah LoChang, i remember see-foo saying in his sig "asian gamers cheat" ...

Selt-Pwnt noob ahhahahahahah