Project Stealth

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Title: No spy versus merc in Splinter Cell Conviction?
Post by: AgentX_003 on December 19, 2009, 02:10:45 AM
No spy versus merc in convictions ? ,does any body know if that seems valid ?

[frvge edit: made clear it's about SCC]
Title: Re: No spy versus merc ?
Post by: LoChang on December 19, 2009, 04:50:36 AM
I haven't felt UBI to be valid since anything after Chaos Theory.
Title: Re: No spy versus merc ?
Post by: Zedblade on December 19, 2009, 04:58:20 AM
Doesn't seem like it, they have announced a Spy vs. Spy mode (one on one) where there are AI enemies that attack both players.
Title: Re: No spy versus merc ?
Post by: Tidenburg on December 19, 2009, 06:14:04 AM
Well, there goes all of that game's value.
Title: Re: No spy versus merc ?
Post by: LoChang on December 19, 2009, 07:13:36 AM
Is anyone really surprised?
Title: Re: No spy versus merc ?
Post by: frvge on December 19, 2009, 09:06:28 AM
They probably saw they didn't compare to us anyway :D. Hmz, maybe that's a bit too self-confident.
Title: Re: No spy versus merc ?
Post by: AgentX_003 on December 19, 2009, 09:52:44 AM
Quote from: frvge on December 19, 2009, 09:06:28 AM
They probably saw they didn't compare to us anyway :D. Hmz, maybe that's a bit too self-confident.

I guess but then again Ive always been Pro -Project Stealth but i wanna see both sides of the pasture
Title: Re: No spy versus merc ?
Post by: VaNilla on December 19, 2009, 03:05:31 PM
It's not confirmed that these are the only multiplayer modes, but I can't really say I care if they're making SvM anyway, it's good if they're diversifying from a game mode they have relied upon for 3 games in a row. I just hope that they have a few tricks up their sleeves to implement interesting co-op mechanics, as right now the co-operative mode just looks like a two player SP campaign.
Title: Re: No spy versus merc ?
Post by: frvge on December 19, 2009, 03:09:51 PM
I like the animations of SCC's coop, but the lethality is a big no-no for me. Some interesting things, but interesting != good for the TC-brand.
Title: Re: No spy versus merc ?
Post by: AgentX_003 on December 20, 2009, 07:27:13 AM
Quote from: frvge on December 19, 2009, 03:09:51 PM
I like the animations of SCC's coop, but the lethality is a big no-no for me. Some interesting things, but interesting != good for the TC-brand.


well without me saying anything im seeing more and more people on teh ubi forums poppin the word on the public forums about it  , random peeps i might add that ive never seen in my entire existance of gaming.
Title: Re: No spy versus merc ?
Post by: Farley4Fan on December 20, 2009, 08:38:26 AM
There was some game mode described, and it literally went like this:

This game mode is a pure stealth mode where the objective is to kill the opposing team as much as possible.

Uhh, pure stealth = kill everyone you possibly can?

The fact that they are basing the rest of their game modes (and they really aren't that different from eachother) on the single player's mark and execute/last known position bullshit just makes me highly doubt that they will do any form of spy vs merc.  It just wouldn't work with their precious "darling" of a new gameplay style.

Spy vs Spy: NOW WITH AI

Judging from SC's usual quality of AI opponents, this should REALLY be a step up from just regular ole spy vs spy.  Right?  LOL!

I still think this will be a fun game.  An entertaining game at the least.  It's just such a waste of enormous potential.  Dumb everything down with every installment to dumb down the series to make more money and all that jazz go fuck yourself you pricks.  We haven't had 1 decent next-gen spy vs merc...  tsk tsk... I'm counting on you guys hahaha
Title: Re: No spy versus merc ?
Post by: Roberto1223 on December 20, 2009, 11:36:08 PM
idk about you guys but the fact that all you do in a game is hide, select enemies, press enter and let sam shoot them all automatically for ya is pretty dull... even though it looks "cool"...

i wouldnt be surprised if they wanted to "refresh" MP mode aswell and come up with some kind of gamemode that gets old very fast...



Title: Re: No spy versus merc ?
Post by: Roberto1223 on December 20, 2009, 11:45:50 PM
In total, the game has five multiplayer modes, four of which being separate from the main campaign. You can find out more about Prologue mode by reading on below ââ,¬â€ but here's what we know about the special "deniable ops" multiplayer modes:
ââ,¬â€Hunter is for one to two players to go in and stealth kill everybody they find.
ââ,¬â€Infiltration is a "pure" stealth mode for one to two players where the second you're spotted, you lose.
ââ,¬â€Last Stand is a survival mode where one to two players have to protect a warhead within a level from a group of AI that want to set it off.
ââ,¬â€Face Off throws out co-op and pits two players against both each other and a lot of hostile AI within a level.

http://kotaku.com/5429088/splinter-cell-conviction-multiplayer-preview-separation-anxiety-times-two (http://kotaku.com/5429088/splinter-cell-conviction-multiplayer-preview-separation-anxiety-times-two)

LOL they call it multiplayer mode and its from 1 to 2 players... so um if its 1 then its not much of a mp mode is it..

Its probably gonna be very linear and get old fast as i thought
Title: Re: No spy versus merc ?
Post by: monterto on December 21, 2009, 07:49:53 AM
Spy vs Spy matches were really intense in double agent
Title: Re: No spy versus merc ?
Post by: AgentX_003 on December 21, 2009, 10:03:13 AM
so its official spy versus merc is dead for convictions

http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/5271091065/m/9221094718
Title: Re: No spy versus merc ?
Post by: VaNilla on December 21, 2009, 05:18:31 PM
Quote from: Roberto1223 on December 20, 2009, 11:45:50 PM
Multiplayer mode and its from 1 to 2 players... so um if its 1 then its not much of a mp mode is it..

Multiplayer is shorthand for multiple players, 2 players comes under that.
Title: Re: No spy versus merc ?
Post by: Savior20061 on December 21, 2009, 10:51:41 PM
Quote from: Zedblade on December 19, 2009, 04:58:20 AM
Doesn't seem like it, they have announced a Spy vs. Spy mode (one on one) where there are AI enemies that attack both players.
Are you fucking joking? 1 vs. 1 Versus on anything but a fighting game sounds like garbage. Maybe that's it. It's a fighting game. With blocks, different stances, and super combo moves.
Title: Re: No spy versus merc ?
Post by: AgentX_003 on December 22, 2009, 02:54:51 AM
Quote from: Savior20061 on December 21, 2009, 10:51:41 PM
Quote from: Zedblade on December 19, 2009, 04:58:20 AM
Doesn't seem like it, they have announced a Spy vs. Spy mode (one on one) where there are AI enemies that attack both players.
Are you fucking joking? 1 vs. 1 Versus on anything but a fighting game sounds like garbage. Maybe that's it. It's a fighting game. With blocks, different stances, and super combo moves.

No joke sir as a letter and stickied on ubis website forum O_O

Official ââ,¬â€œ No SvM Mode

I just wanted to clarify this for everyone: there is no Spies versus Mercenaries mode in Splinter Cell Conviction. Why? The reasons were touched on by Alex, but some more details are below:

From the beginning we decided to make the best co-op experience possible for SCC. The gameplay developed in single-player supports co-op very well because it lets TWO players work together to dominate the enemy and reinforce that feeling of being predatory. If Sam is the panther, Archer and Kestrel are like two wolves in a pack, working together to take down their prey. SvM doesnââ,¬â,,¢t fit this new approach to gameplay.

We also wanted to be consistent across the whole game with our narrative ambition, and Co-Op is really the best approach to support a strong story.

However, there is one adversarial mode: the face-off, consisting of spy versus spy, with hostile AI thrown into the mix.

Again, just to make sure weââ,¬â,,¢re all clear here, there is no SvM mode in SCC and there are no plans to have it come in the future as DLC.

-QuidProKuo
Community Developer
Title: Re: No spy versus merc ?
Post by: Ex0o on December 22, 2009, 02:56:40 AM
O.o at least project stealth will be there
Title: Re: No spy versus merc ?
Post by: Savior20061 on December 22, 2009, 03:48:59 AM
http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums?a=tpc&s=400102&f=5271091065&m=9221094718&r=3871047718#3871047718

My reply is at the bottom.
Title: Re: No spy versus merc ?
Post by: Roberto1223 on December 23, 2009, 12:27:45 PM
Quote from: STON3COLDKILLA on December 21, 2009, 05:18:31 PM
Quote from: Roberto1223 on December 20, 2009, 11:45:50 PM
Multiplayer mode and its from 1 to 2 players... so um if its 1 then its not much of a mp mode is it..

Multiplayer is shorthand for multiple players, 2 players comes under that.

yeah, but in the article it said "from 1 to 2 players"  it should have just said  "2 players" because 1 does not fall under the category MULTIPLAYER. GET IT?
Title: Re: No spy versus merc ?
Post by: MR.Mic on December 23, 2009, 03:09:21 PM
Quote from: Savior20061 on December 21, 2009, 10:51:41 PM
Quote from: Zedblade on December 19, 2009, 04:58:20 AM
Doesn't seem like it, they have announced a Spy vs. Spy mode (one on one) where there are AI enemies that attack both players.
Are you fucking joking? 1 vs. 1 Versus on anything but a fighting game sounds like garbage.
Or quake (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJimWuz33yQ), where 1v1 is the only proper way to play.
Title: Re: No spy versus merc ?
Post by: Succubus Dryad Of The Undying Comet on December 23, 2009, 04:50:39 PM
Quote from: MR.Mic on December 23, 2009, 03:09:21 PM
Or quake (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJimWuz33yQ), where 1v1 is the most proper way to play.
Fixed.
Don't tell me CTF isn't fun.
Title: Re: No spy versus merc ?
Post by: MR.Mic on December 23, 2009, 04:55:04 PM
Quote from: Random Person on December 23, 2009, 04:50:39 PM
Quote from: MR.Mic on December 23, 2009, 03:09:21 PM
Or quake (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJimWuz33yQ), where 1v1 is the most proper way to play.
Fixed.
Don't tell me CTF isn't fun.
Sure, as long as you don't have an incompetent team.
Title: Re: No spy versus merc ?
Post by: VenomousNinja on December 24, 2009, 09:45:31 PM
Quote from: Roberto1223 on December 23, 2009, 12:27:45 PM
Quote from: STON3COLDKILLA on December 21, 2009, 05:18:31 PM
Quote from: Roberto1223 on December 20, 2009, 11:45:50 PM
Multiplayer mode and its from 1 to 2 players... so um if its 1 then its not much of a mp mode is it..

Multiplayer is shorthand for multiple players, 2 players comes under that.

yeah, but in the article it said "from 1 to 2 players"  it should have just said  "2 players" because 1 does not fall under the category MULTIPLAYER. GET IT?
Your logic is bad.

Anyway, guess that means that I probably won't be buying Convictions, although the co-op does look pretty damn fun...
Maybe I'll just rent it instead.

Well guys, I guess we're counting on PS to fuel our SvM needs. Let me know if there's anything I can do to help you guys out.
Title: Re: No spy versus merc ?
Post by: frvge on December 24, 2009, 09:51:32 PM
We're looking for a new webdesigner, a first-person animator for the Mercs and maybe an extra programmer. Extra (experienced!) mappers are also welcome. So ask around your friends who have such qualities, if any :). Else just spread the word.
Title: Re: No spy versus merc ?
Post by: VenomousNinja on December 24, 2009, 10:01:28 PM
Well I have experience in web designing and programming(C++), but I have never done anything professional and am now just starting to experiment with getting windows to show up on the screen for my programs.

I would love to design maps for you, but I fear I am not experienced enough, for I have no experience.

I'll ask around in my group of friends though, just to make sure.
Title: Re: No spy versus merc ?
Post by: VaNilla on December 29, 2009, 06:41:36 PM
Quote from: Roberto1223 on December 23, 2009, 12:27:45 PM
Quote from: STON3COLDKILLA on December 21, 2009, 05:18:31 PM
Quote from: Roberto1223 on December 20, 2009, 11:45:50 PM
Multiplayer mode and its from 1 to 2 players... so um if its 1 then its not much of a mp mode is it..

Multiplayer is shorthand for multiple players, 2 players comes under that.

yeah, but in the article it said "from 1 to 2 players"  it should have just said  "2 players" because 1 does not fall under the category MULTIPLAYER. GET IT?

No, because the context of Multiplayer in this situation is that we have the ability to play with 2 players, not that it's a necessity.