The World Cup begins in a few days! The greatest sporting event in the world is finally here! South Africa seems like an interesting place to play. Scream for your team! Go Red White and Blue! (Oh, and the Dutch are my second favorite)
Dutchies unite!
Hahahaha, whoever finds anything interesting in watching 20 dudes run around after a ball...
Well, nevermind. I don't want a ban. But you get the idea.
You think you can get a ban for not liking soccer/football? Lol! You're a funny guy.
Quote from: frvge on June 04, 2010, 07:17:25 PM
You think you can get a ban for not liking soccer/football? Lol! You're a funny guy.
Not for that. For extreme offence towards the people who watch football/soccer.
I only like soccer when it gets intense (shootouts). I can't watch it too much because there isn't a whole lot of scoring or anything. Of course that makes goals more of an emotional event but it just gets boring waiting for it. "Oh, something great is about to maybe happen possibly!!!! Annnddd.... no.... it didn't." Repeat 50 times per game.
Quote from: FarleyFan on June 04, 2010, 09:24:44 PM
I only like soccer when it gets intense (shootouts). I can't watch it too much because there isn't a whole lot of scoring or anything. Of course that makes goals more of an emotional event but it just gets boring waiting for it. "Oh, something great is about to maybe happen possibly!!!! Annnddd.... no.... it didn't." Repeat 50 times per game.
exactly. this game needs a fucking patch making the goal wider and not taking fouls so seriously.
the offside rule also get's interpreted wrong quite often manipulating the whole outcome of the game.
feels good being able to flame about soccer without being torn into pieces. (i live in munich pretty close to the alianz arena...)
It must be soccer city in Munich right now lol
Women's soccer is better than Men's soccer IMO!
Quote from: Aj on June 10, 2010, 06:02:06 AM
Women's soccer is better than Men's soccer IMO!
only with naked women on a mud field =)
I never got the mud fetish. It makes the ladies slippery/dirty and a bit sexy because of that, but it makes it hard to see/appreciate their goodies. I much prefer lathering them in some whip cream because I don't like to lick mud, even off a babe.
yeah, you gotta think ahead ;D
Spectating a sport is lame.
In the words of one of my friends:
I can't wait until the world cup is over so that I can go back to passively ignoring soccer instead of actively ignoring it.
Quote from: MR.Mic on June 11, 2010, 03:40:10 PM
Spectating a sport is lame.
+1
i got the feeling most "fans" that don't play soccer themselfes just join the fan crowd to feel part of a large group in which behaving like a monkey is accepted. it's just too easy. you wear some fan shirt, disable your brain with tons of alk and BAMM you got friends everywhere and can pretend to have a fun/manly/... hobby. or switch to another small talk topic when talking about the weather gets too ridiculous.
Well, if you have actually played the game for 12 years, then you gain some appreciation for it.
Well you have to have appreciation for it to play it for 12 years. I just don't like it. Not very intense. But then again, what do I know? I'm a baseball guy. I know what your'e saying but I just have a diff opinion.
LOL I went to a Boston Red Sox game last week since I was on vacation. Fenway was cool, but it was quite annoying to have those men in bright yellow shirts running up and down the aisles shouting "Popcorn" "Cracker Jacks" "Ice Cold Lemonade" "Ballpark Franks" "Cotton Candy" "Pizza" "Diet Coke" during the whole game. But then again you hear that obnoxious horn during the whole soccer game. To me, baseball just seems the same every time. Even home runs aren't that exciting. You watch the pitch, the guy hits it, then it flies into the stands. And if you watch the top 10 plays on sportscenter, and you can always bet there will be 5 or 6 "miraculous grabs" in the outfield. It just gets old to me. Plus they play over 100 games, so what does 1 game mean anyway? Again this is just an opinion. Football is great to watch. Basketball is good only if it is college. Golf and tennis are great to play but not to watch. Ok I got off from my own topic. Oops.
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LOL I went to a Boston Red Sox game last week since I was on vacation. Fenway was cool, but it was quite annoying to have those men in bright yellow shirts running up and down the aisles shouting "Popcorn" "Cracker Jacks" "Ice Cold Lemonade" "Ballpark Franks" "Cotton Candy" "Pizza" "Diet Coke" during the whole game.
Either you love the atmosphere or you don't I guess. Baseball is more fun to play than to watch - like all sports.
QuoteBut then again you hear that obnoxious horn during the whole soccer game. To me, baseball just seems the same every time. Even home runs aren't that exciting. You watch the pitch, the guy hits it, then it flies into the stands. And if you watch the top 10 plays on sportscenter, and you can always bet there will be 5 or 6 "miraculous grabs" in the outfield. It just gets old to me.
Well, soccer is the same everytime. So is basketball. So is golf, american football, etc... Being a student of the game of baseball I can tell you that it is always what you predict. It's like there are baseball gods or something. If someone makes an error in the field, you can bet your ass that he will be the same guy who strikes out in the bottom of the 9th. Or, say someone is batting .100. That's 1/10 times he gets a hit, which is horrible. You can count on him breaking out of his slump when the game's on the line. I don't know why. There are a thousands of intricate events that you can predict, and even when I'm finally able to predict all of them, which is impossible, it still won't be old to me. I don't know why.
QuotePlus they play over 100 games, so what does 1 game mean anyway? Again this is just an opinion. Football is great to watch. Basketball is good only if it is college. Golf and tennis are great to play but not to watch. Ok I got off from my own topic. Oops.
Well, this is like any sport. The regular season DOES matter, but it's less exciting to us because no one's season is on the line like it is in the playoffs. You can only get exciting regular season games when they are hard fought, rivalries, extra-innings, or when post season positioning is on the line.
Take soccer for example. I didn't really care about the game's these countries have played. But now that the FIFA world cup is going on I'm more interested because of things like national pride or shame, intensity, the large stage, you just can't get that from games that don't matter. Pretty much, the playoffs are where it's at. Tournaments like this spike interest in a sport but it doesn't last forever.
Remember hockey during the olympics? It was great stuff and I'm not a huge hockey guy (I prefer it over soccer, though). But, it was only GREAT stuff because of the stakes. Wait until the MLB playoff to start watching baseball if you must. I'm a huge baseball guy and I probably only watch 1 full game every couple of weeks. I just check the scores/highlights on the rest. :-X
Quote from: MR.Mic on June 11, 2010, 03:40:10 PM
Spectating a sport is lame.
Even more so when it is a queer assed sport.
Can one of you futbol fans explain to me why there is almost no scoring in the game? The goal is 24 fucking feet wide and 8 foot tall. That is bigger than almost any other goal in any sport so how is it that the players suck so bad that they can never score?
Quote from: element54 on June 11, 2010, 08:42:52 PM
Quote from: MR.Mic on June 11, 2010, 03:40:10 PM
Spectating a sport is lame.
Even more so when it is a queer assed sport.
Can one of you futbol fans explain to me why there is almost no scoring in the game? The goal is 24 fucking feet wide and 8 foot tall. That is bigger than almost any other goal in any sport so how is it that the players suck so bad that they can never score?
Hahah have you ever watched a game? They can't score because it's hard as fuck to get a chance and then the goalies are teleporting gods. I actually think it's a pretty cool sport lol. Baseball on the other hand is the gayest sport known to man.
I'll say it now. There is more action in a game of baseball than in a game of soccer.
If you say action is a bunch of guys running around in a field of grass for 98% of the game, and the other 2% is scoring/goalkeeping, then you won't agree with me.
At any point during a baseball game, 1 player can make a difference with an incredible or a terrible play. At any point. There are 27 outs and usually upwards of 60 at bats per game. Each out, each at bat, something could happen and something will happen.
You know when nothing will happen during soccer and you know when something MIGHT happen. And then, it probably won't happen. If there was a button I could push that could make my TV skip all the boring 99% of soccer and only show me the game when a team is about to score then I might enjoy it more. It's the fact that for the vast majority of the game, there is no chance of anything of importance actually happening. South Africa and Mexico just drawed today. 1-1. Yay. 2 hours. 2 goals. Nobody won.
Yeah it's under way. USA vs. England is a huge game tomorrow!
Back to your point about 98% of the time nothing is happening in soccer...at least they are actually playing for that time period. In baseball, 98% of the 3 hours they aren't even playing the game. They are only "playing" for the 1 second that the ball leaves the pitcher's hand and goes into the catcher's mit. Then, you wait 20 seconds for another pitch for 1 second of potential excitement again. Or, you could watch the players in the outfield standing there waiting for the ball to fly in their zone for 15 minutes and nothing happens. I mean, while soccer is low scoring, there is usually some sort of action to watch while baseball has none.
Again, I'm not trying to persuade you into changing your mind because this would just be a pointless argument based upon opinions and interests. I'm just supporting my sport.
So who does everybody have in the game tomorrow? I'm thinking a draw...2-2
Baseball could be sped up greatly just by not allowing players to leave the batter's box between pitches not put in play unless they are granted time out. Then umps can actually enforce the rule that is on the books that pitchers must begin their delivery within 12 sec of getting the ball back.
No reason for a player to readjust his gloves, pants, and do a jig between taking pitches EVERY time.
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In baseball, 98% of the 3 hours they aren't even playing the game. They are only "playing" for the 1 second that the ball leaves the pitcher's hand and goes into the catcher's mit. Then, you wait 20 seconds for another pitch for 1 second of potential excitement again.
Oh I know that baseball has low "action", it's something like 8 minutes of actual time that the ball is in play. The excitement comes from knowing that something great could happen in the next second, the next pitch. In soccer, you have to wait for that potential moment of excitement to happen. In baseball, you don't have to wait because these moments of potential just keep getting pumped out each pitch.
QuoteOr, you could watch the players in the outfield standing there waiting for the ball to fly in their zone for 15 minutes and nothing happens. I mean, while soccer is low scoring, there is usually some sort of action to watch while baseball has none.
Well, that depends on what you define as action or what is exciting. I don't think that seeing guys (almost) randomly running after a ball. Each time a pitch is thrown, that's action for me. Each time, something great could happen.
QuoteAgain, I'm not trying to persuade you into changing your mind because this would just be a pointless argument based upon opinions and interests. I'm just supporting my sport.
So who does everybody have in the game tomorrow? I'm thinking a draw...2-2
Yeah same here. Obviously I wouldn't try to change your mind.
Tomorrow, based on what little soccer knowledge I had, I think it will be close (can't really blow out a team in soccer). It's going to be hard fought and hopefully intense enough to warrant my full attention. I've seen what the American team CAN do when they beat Spain. They CAN beat the best. Not sure about England but I'm sure they're a great team. It's going to be about who wants it the most and whoever gets a stroke of luck.
U.S.A - 2
England - 1
Yeah... ;D
all major sports could use a "patch" to make it more fun, but no chance changing the holy rules...
the great thing about the fifa world cup is that folks lighten up in germany and there are parties everywhere :D
Quote from: Succubus Dryad Of The Undying Comet on June 04, 2010, 05:19:46 PM
Hahahaha, whoever finds anything interesting in watching 20 dudes run around after a ball...
I have EXACTLY the same thoughts and it's been like that for over 10 years.
I usually add "over-payed spoiled" before "dudes".
And I hate the soccer culture, like it's a sacred sport, ugh. You won't find me watching this month.
EDIT
soccer != football
I don't like football, I never watch it or play it.
QuoteOh I know that baseball has low "action", it's something like 8 minutes of actual time that the ball is in play.
And there's much less than 8 minutes worth of scoring opportunities in a soccer game.
My favorite is Basketball. I think it's the most interesting team play game.
Quote from: Spekkio on June 12, 2010, 04:08:16 PM
QuoteOh I know that baseball has low "action", it's something like 8 minutes of actual time that the ball is in play.
And there's much less than 8 minutes worth of scoring opportunities in a soccer game.
Yeah earlier I said something like 4 minutes of actual potential scoring.
Well that was boring.
U.S. held England without a goal for 86 minutes in a row. The only goal that the U.S. scored was a laugher but thankfully it happened.
All I know is that they need to find a way to remove the airhorn sounds from a TV broadcast.
Vuvuzela FTW!
In your face, MulleDK19!
2 - 0
Your... and yes. self-pwn!
Dutchies beat the Danish! Hopefully Robben can heal because he is very important to their chances of winning the World Cup. If not, it looks like USA is the clear cut favorite because of their superior goal scoring thus far in the tournament. :D
That goal was so amazing.
It might as well have been a bicycle kick from the U.S. team's own goal while the guy had a broken femur.
It was that good.
lawl.
http://www.theonion.com/video/soccer-officially-announces-it-is-gay,17603/
That was awesome.
And at 1:45 I was laughing so freaking hard when it said that baseball admits bunting is gay.
Haha. They need to include wrestling on there too.
Arguably the best team in the world fell to the Swiss. Ahh the Spaniards dug themselves a big hole. What an embarrassment.
Wow. I watched the U.S. game live and they got ROBBED.
Worst call I've seen in my short time watching soccer.
I wanted to watch footage of that bad call, but BZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZz
Penis.
Yeah, they said that ref will not be the head ref for any more games this World Cup. He will probably be moved to the sideline to watch for offsides because many people complained. At least the US can still advance with a win. A tie will also work depending on the scenario.
Almost as bad as that Jim Joyce call a couple weeks ago, if any of you track MLB baseball. The umpire made a bad call that ruined some poor guy's perfect game. A perfect game is what you call it when a pitcher doesn't allow any hits, walks, or runs. No one gets on base. So, 2 outs in the bottom of the ninth he calls a batter safe at first base and he clearly was not.
BUT, at least Jim Joyce manned up and admitted it. He was totally sorry. I'm not sure if this FIFA ref has apologized or anything but if he would then he'd get more respect.
They really need to cut the whole crowd noise out of the TV broadcasts. I know that the Vuvuzela is tradition or something (is it?) but I don't want to hear it personally.
Go USA haha. If they don't take care of business now then soccer will never be relevant in the US again.
I saw that baseball replay, and it was an even worse call than the soccer one. That pitcher must be sick for the rest of his life after that call.
I like the vuvuzela! Even if they do not make it far in the World Cup, US soccer will not be forgotten. Ok maybe it will be forgotten for 4 years until the next World Cup, but our future looks brighter than our present for talented players.
Quote from: CurdyMilk on June 21, 2010, 07:08:40 AM
I saw that baseball replay, and it was an even worse call than the soccer one. That pitcher must be sick for the rest of his life after that call.
I like the vuvuzela! Even if they do not make it far in the World Cup, US soccer will not be forgotten. Ok maybe it will be forgotten for 4 years until the next World Cup, but our future looks brighter than our present for talented players.
Yeah it may have been a worse call but here's the kicker:
The umpire admitted his mistake and was voted the leagues best umpire in a survey taken just days later. The player were the voters.
So he's probably still the most respected umpire in the whole MLB because of the way he conducted himself after this blown call. He apologized to the pitcher countless times. He didn't get in the coach's face after the game because he disputed the call. He held his judgment until after he saw the replay, and then he broke down and started tearing up. He was full of remorse at what he did to the PITCHER, not at what he might have done to his own career as an umpire.
I didn't see any of that from the soccer referee. He didn't even consider for a second that he blew the call and maybe the U.S.'s chances at advancing in the world cup. In other words he appeared to be arrogant. He didn't seem like a man to me like Jim Joyce did. He didn't man up.
But that's just from what I've heard, read, seen - which wasn't too extensive.
GGGGOOOOAAAALLLL!!!! USA in stoppage time!
Yay
That was an awesome goal. I loved watching Italy drop today too. No Italy, no France in the final bracket...but USA is there....WOOOOOOOOO
Annd Fifa has banned local sports radio stations from playing the replay of that goal.
I hate soccer even more now.
You could probably find it on espn.com
That's not the point. Aside from the fact that soccer is incredibly boring and stupid, what kind of sports organization is so obnoxious that it blocks sports news outlets from broadcasting its replays?
Soccer is actually extremely intense in terms of endurance and has plenty of good gameplay, setting up shots, etc. It's boring to you because America usually sucks at soccer hard because it's a European sport. It's no more boring than sitting through a baseball game or hockey game. Perk is that time never stops...no timeouts or bullshit like that. Play to the end and hope you can get a goal. It's boring to the impatient. Also one of the first sports ever....come on, kick the ball into this area and it's a goal....see who has the most at the end. Incredibly boring and stupid, what an awesome approach. You must not be into sports.
They can censor w/e they want. You can still find it.
Quote from: Westfall on June 26, 2010, 07:20:48 AM
It's no more boring than sitting through a baseball game or hockey game.
I think this is a good example of how I view the sport when seeing it on TV. Since unless you watch/play it enough you never understand why...
Quote from: Westfall on June 26, 2010, 07:20:48 AM
Soccer is actually extremely intense in terms of endurance and has plenty of good gameplay, setting up shots, etc.
It just ends up being a bunch of guys running around trying to...
Quote from: Westfall on June 26, 2010, 07:20:48 AM
kick the ball into this area and it's a goal....see who has the most at the end.
Though I have to admit it's pretty nice that they make it so...
Quote from: Westfall on June 26, 2010, 07:20:48 AM
time never stops...no timeouts or bullshit like that. Play to the end and hope you can get a goal.
If it's going to be boring, might as well make it go by as fast as possible.
I don't watch it so I don't care if it's censored, but there are my thoughts on it all. :P
Quote from: Westfall on June 26, 2010, 07:20:48 AM
Soccer is actually extremely intense in terms of endurance and has plenty of good gameplay, setting up shots, etc. It's boring to you because America usually sucks at soccer hard because it's a European sport. It's no more boring than sitting through a baseball game or hockey game. Perk is that time never stops...no timeouts or bullshit like that. Play to the end and hope you can get a goal. It's boring to the impatient. Also one of the first sports ever....come on, kick the ball into this area and it's a goal....see who has the most at the end. Incredibly boring and stupid, what an awesome approach. You must not be into sports.
They can censor w/e they want. You can still find it.
If America was the best soccer team in the world I would still think it's boring.
Quote from: Westfall on June 26, 2010, 07:20:48 AM
Soccer is actually extremely intense in terms of endurance and has plenty of good gameplay, setting up shots, etc. It's boring to you because America usually sucks at soccer hard because it's a European sport. It's no more boring than sitting through a baseball game or hockey game. Perk is that time never stops...no timeouts or bullshit like that. Play to the end and hope you can get a goal. It's boring to the impatient. Also one of the first sports ever....come on, kick the ball into this area and it's a goal....see who has the most at the end. Incredibly boring and stupid, what an awesome approach. You must not be into sports.
They can censor w/e they want. You can still find it.
The skill of the American team is irrelevant; soccer is simply not fun to watch. They have a net as wide as your mom's vagina and only manage to put about 8 shots on goal a game in 90 minutes worth of playing time. The rest of the time is spent piddling around in the middle of the field bouncing a ball back and forth aimlessly.
I am not denying that soccer requires a large amount of endurance for the players, but this has little to do with its entertainment value. And while you tout soccer's lack of stopping time, that stopping time is what makes sports enjoyable to many people. At what point in a soccer game do I get up to go get a beer? I can't do it between innings, between 15-20 minute quarters, when the ball changes possession, or when there's a time out. Nope, I have to sit glued to the TV hoping I don't miss the 15 seconds of a soccer game where something eventful happens. There actually is a study around the 'net somewhere that Americans prefer sports like football, baseball and basketball because there is a clear-cut back and forth, and the breaks in the action are predictable enough to get a beer, make some food, or drain the lizard. I'm not saying that's why I like those sports, but it rebuts the argument that soccer is better entertainment simply because it has no stoppage time.
Additionally, I don't deny that you can find some bootleg copy of a replay on the 'net; that doesn't change the fact that FIFA is the only sports organization that is obnoxious enough to ban legitimate sports media outlets from replaying highlights. It's like there's some German guy with a blowout haircut on the other end going "fuk u americans, only FIFA site has replays" with fucking techno music in the background.
FIFA are just dictators. Blergh.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-Ln_rqPpPk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-Ln_rqPpPk)
Kinda funny.
When spek mentioned a german dictator from FIFA I thought of Hitler. I looked up "Hitler FIFA" on youtube. There are surprisingly about a dozen of these.
Quote from: Spekkio on June 26, 2010, 03:02:00 AM
Annd Fifa has banned local sports radio stations from playing the replay of that goal.
Where did you get that information from? Source?
Spekkio knows all.
Trust me, I know.
Because I know all.
Good, then bring me that source.
It is a very sad day for the red white and blue. Time to cheer for the dutchies! Go orange!
Quote from: YaYz0r on June 27, 2010, 12:39:58 AM
Good, then bring me that source.
http://community.projectstealthgame.com/forums/index.php/topic,2247.45.html (http://community.projectstealthgame.com/forums/index.php/topic,2247.45.html)
Scroll down halfway. Spek is the source.
Quote from: CurdyMilk on June 27, 2010, 01:49:28 AM
It is a very sad day for the red white and blue. Time to cheer for the dutchies! Go orange!
It was kind of sad but then again they played with heart and energy. Saw some passion here and there but they just couldn't score the ball. Soccer seems more and more like a game based on luck the more I watch it. Luck, endurance, and vuvuzelas.
Quote from: YaYz0r on June 27, 2010, 12:23:19 AM
Quote from: Spekkio on June 26, 2010, 03:02:00 AM
Annd Fifa has banned local sports radio stations from playing the replay of that goal.
Where did you get that information from? Source?
I don't have a written one. I was listening to WFAN in the morning, and after they shifted from recapping Mets/Yankees highlights they started talking about USA's supposedly epic goal in stoppage time. Then the jockey said that they unfortunately could not replay the goal because FIFA will not give permission.
That has not been because they did not want people to see that the referee made a wrong decision. It must have had something to do with a lack of rights to show footage from the tournament or something like that. It is therefore not a proper reason to hate on soccer.
I don't care about your opinion on why they did it, they still did it. Like I said, they are the only major sports organization that is so stuck up that it bans media outlets from replaying highlights. I have seen plenty of "botched call" replays from all other major sports.
And now England is screwed out of a goal and FIFA says NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!
NOOOOOOOOOO VIDEOOOOOOOOO REPLAAAAAAYYYYYYY!!!!!
They suggest putting out another one of their incompetent referees onto the field so there are 2 at a time making poor calls.
FIFA is obviously rigged. If it wasn't the USA would have won. Quite obvious. You guys are all morons.
Quote from: Ion.67 on June 28, 2010, 02:36:49 AM
FIFA is obviously rigged. If it wasn't the USA would have won. Quite obvious. You guys are all morons.
Are you talking about the USA vs. Ghana game? That was a fair game without any rigging. There wasn't much to complain about there. We lost.
The Slovenia and Algeria games were the ones with blown calls. Then again today both the Mexicans and the English got robbed by the refs. You never know for sure if the refs are legitimate. Everything happens so fast, and they do not use replays (although they should). Plus, whenever a ref makes terrible calls, everybody knows he will never call the shots for a world cup game ever again.
Everyone knows the USA is a superior nation at almost everything. We are only not superior at producing cocaine but that is about it.
Quote from: Spekkio on June 28, 2010, 01:14:15 AM
I don't care about your opinion on why they did it, they still did it. Like I said, they are the only major sports organization that is so stuck up that it bans media outlets from replaying highlights. I have seen plenty of "botched call" replays from all other major sports.
So you do not care about the fact that FIFA most likely "banned" them from showing the replay with a completely legitimate reason? FIFA would never keep companies with the rights to show footage from their world cup away from replaying a bad call from a referee. And the call was not even that bad if you compare it to what happened yesterday etc. So stop being an idiot. You should have figured this out yourself with your common sense instead of hating on FIFA or soccer. You can criticize FIFA for many reasons but this is definitely not one of them.
Quote from: Spekkio on June 26, 2010, 02:31:41 PM
Quote from: Westfall on June 26, 2010, 07:20:48 AM
Soccer is actually extremely intense in terms of endurance and has plenty of good gameplay, setting up shots, etc. It's boring to you because America usually sucks at soccer hard because it's a European sport. It's no more boring than sitting through a baseball game or hockey game. Perk is that time never stops...no timeouts or bullshit like that. Play to the end and hope you can get a goal. It's boring to the impatient. Also one of the first sports ever....come on, kick the ball into this area and it's a goal....see who has the most at the end. Incredibly boring and stupid, what an awesome approach. You must not be into sports.
They can censor w/e they want. You can still find it.
The skill of the American team is irrelevant; soccer is simply not fun to watch. They have a net as wide as your mom's vagina and only manage to put about 8 shots on goal a game in 90 minutes worth of playing time. The rest of the time is spent piddling around in the middle of the field bouncing a ball back and forth aimlessly.
I am not denying that soccer requires a large amount of endurance for the players, but this has little to do with its entertainment value. And while you tout soccer's lack of stopping time, that stopping time is what makes sports enjoyable to many people. At what point in a soccer game do I get up to go get a beer? I can't do it between innings, between 15-20 minute quarters, when the ball changes possession, or when there's a time out. Nope, I have to sit glued to the TV hoping I don't miss the 15 seconds of a soccer game where something eventful happens. There actually is a study around the 'net somewhere that Americans prefer sports like football, baseball and basketball because there is a clear-cut back and forth, and the breaks in the action are predictable enough to get a beer, make some food, or drain the lizard. I'm not saying that's why I like those sports, but it rebuts the argument that soccer is better entertainment simply because it has no stoppage time.
Additionally, I don't deny that you can find some bootleg copy of a replay on the 'net; that doesn't change the fact that FIFA is the only sports organization that is obnoxious enough to ban legitimate sports media outlets from replaying highlights. It's like there's some German guy with a blowout haircut on the other end going "fuk u americans, only FIFA site has replays" with fucking techno music in the background.
Funny, I would rather watch soccer than read your poor excuse of justifying why soccer is boring. There are plenty of eventful things that end up happening throughout the game. If you don't like soccer...then you don't like soccer <--- This has pure relevance as to why soccer is not boring. To you it may be boring as sin, but its due to you not liking the sport. I'm sure you can appreciate it for what it is, but that has no link to it being boring. That's like me saying your Mom is boring in bed...you know, you may not think so, but I do because it lacks entertainment value.
Ion is just using sarcasm to get a virtual world war 3 going online. Ignore.
Quote from: YaYz0r on June 28, 2010, 08:47:53 AM
Quote from: Spekkio on June 28, 2010, 01:14:15 AM
I don't care about your opinion on why they did it, they still did it. Like I said, they are the only major sports organization that is so stuck up that it bans media outlets from replaying highlights. I have seen plenty of "botched call" replays from all other major sports.
So you do not care about the fact that FIFA most likely "banned" them from showing the replay with a completely legitimate reason? FIFA would never keep companies with the rights to show footage from their world cup away from replaying a bad call from a referee. And the call was not even that bad if you compare it to what happened yesterday etc. So stop being an idiot. You should have figured this out yourself with your common sense instead of hating on FIFA or soccer. You can criticize FIFA for many reasons but this is definitely not one of them.
You must not be reading my posts, or you are and are just ignoring what I said.
No other sport blocks replays of botched calls, nor are botched calls a valid reason for an organization to block replays.
well englands 2nd goal the other day against germany was disallowed and it was about a foot over the line. they replayed that like 10 times...
GASP! FIFA has apologized to England/Mexico! Thing is, that does absolutely no good whatsoever and they missed about 10 other countries that they owe apologies.
Thing is, I couldn't care less. This world cup has been a snoozer apart from a few bright spots. It has been handled terribly as well.
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I don't care about your opinion on why they did it, they still did it. Like I said, they are the only major sports organization that is so stuck up that it bans media outlets from replaying highlights. I have seen plenty of "botched call" replays from all other major sports.
So you do not care about the fact that FIFA most likely "banned" them from showing the replay with a completely legitimate reason? FIFA would never keep companies with the rights to show footage from their world cup away from replaying a bad call from a referee. And the call was not even that bad if you compare it to what happened yesterday etc. So stop being an idiot. You should have figured this out yourself with your common sense instead of hating on FIFA or soccer. You can criticize FIFA for many reasons but this is definitely not one of them.
You must not be reading my posts, or you are and are just ignoring what I said.
No other sport blocks replays of botched calls, nor are botched calls a valid reason for an organization to block replays.
No, you are the one not reading what I say. I shall try to put it an other way. Listen, FIFA do not directly block replays of botched calls. They may do it indirectly by not allowing companies without the rights to show footage from the tournament to show any replays from the tournament at all and therefore also the replay of the botched call but that is completely legitimate and fair. In fact, I think all similar organizations follow the same procedure. As I said before, you cannot criticize FIFA for doing this. You are really the only one being ignorant here.
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I don't care about your opinion on why they did it, they still did it. Like I said, they are the only major sports organization that is so stuck up that it bans media outlets from replaying highlights. I have seen plenty of "botched call" replays from all other major sports.
So you do not care about the fact that FIFA most likely "banned" them from showing the replay with a completely legitimate reason? FIFA would never keep companies with the rights to show footage from their world cup away from replaying a bad call from a referee. And the call was not even that bad if you compare it to what happened yesterday etc. So stop being an idiot. You should have figured this out yourself with your common sense instead of hating on FIFA or soccer. You can criticize FIFA for many reasons but this is definitely not one of them.
You must not be reading my posts, or you are and are just ignoring what I said.
No other sport blocks replays of botched calls, nor are botched calls a valid reason for an organization to block replays.
FIFA is talking about having replay allowed in the next World Cup. I haven't found any source of censorship like you are talking about. I know in North Korea they would only show when they scored a goal and nothing else. Otherwise I've seen nothing of what you're talking about. Do you mean the in game stadium replays??
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FIFA is talking about having replay allowed in he next World Cup. I haven't found any source of censorship like you are talking about. I know I. north Korea they would only show when they scored a goal and nothing else. Otherwise I've seen nothig of what you're talking about.
You should listen to WFAN more often, considering we both live in the same state now.
I didn't know Westfall lived in Antarctica.
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FIFA is talking about having replay allowed in he next World Cup. I haven't found any source of censorship like you are talking about. I know I. north Korea they would only show when they scored a goal and nothing else. Otherwise I've seen nothig of what you're talking about.
You should listen to WFAN more often, considering we both live in the same state now.
Perhaps nobody told you yet, Spekkio, but you should not believe anything you hear.
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FIFA is talking about having replay allowed in he next World Cup. I haven't found any source of censorship like you are talking about. I know I. north Korea they would only show when they scored a goal and nothing else. Otherwise I've seen nothig of what you're talking about.
You should listen to WFAN more often, considering we both live in the same state now.
Perhaps nobody told you yet, Spekkio, but you should not believe anything you hear.
That includes what Yayzor says. And what I say. So ignore this.
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FIFA is talking about having replay allowed in he next World Cup. I haven't found any source of censorship like you are talking about. I know I. north Korea they would only show when they scored a goal and nothing else. Otherwise I've seen nothig of what you're talking about.
You should listen to WFAN more often, considering we both live in the same state now.
When did you move here? Are you in Groton? I rarely listen to AM, but will check it out. Is it usually good stuff?
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FIFA is talking about having replay allowed in he next World Cup. I haven't found any source of censorship like you are talking about. I know I. north Korea they would only show when they scored a goal and nothing else. Otherwise I've seen nothig of what you're talking about.
You should listen to WFAN more often, considering we both live in the same state now.
Perhaps nobody told you yet, Spekkio, but you should not believe anything you hear.
Okay, you fuckers are being really, really retarded.
Firstly, I witnessed this first hand. Ergo, I am the reference. And while I can understand you want to be skeptical of something someone says over the internet, I have no reason to lie about this. You can continue to disbelieve me, but that just makes you dumb.
Secondly, a radio station that makes its money by talking sports and replaying highlights isn't going to lie to its audience about FIFA blocking its ability to replay highlights. If they could play the replays, they absolutely would -- that's how they make their money.
Thirdly, this double speak about blocking it for botched calls or blocking it for rights is really irrelevant; while other sports organizations might block the live broadcast, no organization attempts to control HIGHLIGHTS in this manner.
So stfu and stop being dumb
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FIFA is talking about having replay allowed in he next World Cup. I haven't found any source of censorship like you are talking about. I know I. north Korea they would only show when they scored a goal and nothing else. Otherwise I've seen nothig of what you're talking about.
You should listen to WFAN more often, considering we both live in the same state now.
When did you move here? Are you in Groton? I rarely listen to AM, but will check it out. Is it usually good stuff?
Yes, in Groton, and I listen it to get sports scores vs. watching ESPN. 660 am.
How long are you posted here for, or did you noose to chill there?
I love me a gamecast. That way I see the 10 or so highlights without the other 93 minutes of boringness
Westfall, I'm in CT about another year and a half
I didn't know Antarctica uses CT for its abbreviation. Kind of weird.
I guess it's because antarCTica?
The World Cup is just getting better and better, all four quarterfinals have just been lovely and entertaining.
The FIFA replays every dodgy call many many times from all kind of angles. Stations I watch don't have the rights to show MLB or NBA highlights either, stop crying about that.
It's fine if people don't like football, but reasons such as "when do I have time to get my beer and hot dog" are a typical redneck attitude, ignorant and plainly retarded. Last year I've been to a Partizan Belgrade vs. Red Star game with my Serbian friends and their american girlfriends who have been to Europe for the first time. After the first half one of them actually asked "What about the half time show??" Her boyfriend then told her the only thing to worry about is to get home safe after the game.
Football in Europe and South America is something the people from the States will never experience due to cultural differences. I also don't enjoy watching football just by myself that much, your MLS sucks tits and sitting in the dome with a bucket of chicken wings and a galleon of mountain dew dont get you in the mood either, not to mention drinking 3,2% beer where you piss more taste than you swallow.
For playing 90 minutes straight, the players tactical awareness is unbelievable. Defensive players don't get the time to jog back in still position for another 4 second play. A 50 yard sprint will have to do the job before you start attacking the other way again, remarkable.
Wrong calls are part of the game, but at the world cup I wish the ref would be allowed watch a replay some time, e.g England's second "goal", but the irony of another wembley goal plus Germany's stunning performances these days kinda make that call insignificant anyways.
People who put in their two cent about "soccer" all 4 years should rather shut up than say anything at all.
I think we can expect 4 more GREAT games from the WC and I am definitely looking forward to it.
Football vs soccer: http://www.dumpert.nl/mediabase/1017651/8e3a7a91/soccer_vs._football.html
Quote from: Spekkio on July 03, 2010, 01:52:49 AM
Okay, you fuckers are being really, really retarded.
The only thing retarded here is you and your foolish arguments against soccer.
Quote from: Spekkio on July 03, 2010, 01:52:49 AMFirstly, I witnessed this first hand. Ergo, I am the reference. And while I can understand you want to be skeptical of something someone says over the internet, I have no reason to lie about this. You can continue to disbelieve me, but that just makes you dumb.
I do not have a problem with you witnessing something you have heard or think you have heard from somewhere. The thing is that you in this case use what you have witnessed to reach a conclusion. And as I have already been trying to tell you, you should have used your common sense to figure out that you could not use what you witnessed to reach that conclusion, that soccer sucks "even more now".
Quote from: Spekkio on July 03, 2010, 01:52:49 AMSecondly, a radio station that makes its money by talking sports and replaying highlights isn't going to lie to its audience about FIFA blocking its ability to replay highlights. If they could play the replays, they absolutely would -- that's how they make their money.
Copyrights. Need I say more? And I am sure (I know) those exist in other sports industries too. And Duke's post made me even more sure of that.
Quote from: Spekkio on July 03, 2010, 01:52:49 AMThirdly, this double speak about blocking it for botched calls or blocking it for rights is really irrelevant; while other sports organizations might block the live broadcast, no organization attempts to control HIGHLIGHTS in this manner.
What I said before. And no, it is not irrelevant. If FIFA had actually censored the replay of the botched call then that would be something to criticize them for.
Quote from: Spekkio on July 03, 2010, 01:52:49 AMSo stfu and stop being dumb
How about you just stop being an asshat instead?
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Yayzor, you were the one who brought up botched calls as a means for censoring. Until you did, that thought did not enter my mind.
My original argument was that any sports organization that is obnoxious enough to ban sports media from replaying highlights deserves to be shunned. I stand by that statement; FIFA is the ONLY sports organization that does this. FIFA has also gone out of their way to squash any kind of other internet media replays other than those it directly endorses. The organization has an air of arrogance from being so wildly popular (for some god awful reason) that, unlike most other sports, it actually attempts to limit its exposure to the public. Another example is that FIFA will not authorize networks to play encore games; if you're not off at 10 am to watch a soccer game, and you don't have dvd-r (oh wait, but that's illegal anyway cuz of copyright), then you're not watching the game.
(Btw, I like how you put the line "think you heard" in there, as if to still imply that there is doubt that I actually heard a broadcaster say that they were not allowed to replay World Cup highlights)
I don't know where botched calls came out of that on your end, but considering how long I've followed sports in my life I certainly think that it's not only reasonable, but also justified to have beef with an organization having FIFA's policy toward public exposure. And if their reason for blocking broadcast is from poor play calling by the referees, that only furthers my point that FIFA is a terrible organization. If FIFA thinks it's too "elite" to have me as a spectator because I actually have a job, then I say fuck them. It's not like the sport was interesting to watch in the first place, anyway. And if they think that the solution to poor play calling is to block fans from seeing the replays, then they're only hurting themselves.
Spekkio,
the FIFA replays everything. I watch game highlights several times a day on various stations, 4 to be exactly.
Botched and dodgy calls are shown even more than goals numerous times.
It's not the FIFA's fault that the way football is broadcasted in the U.S is poorly and amateurish.
People from the States are no Football fans, they don't know more than the 5 top stars of this sport. They also hate to watch countries doing good at something where the U.S team sucks. Why would your stations bother buying the rights for something the majority doesn't care about.
I'm 100% positive that at least one ESPN channel shows highlights.
Also, the FIFA doesn't do things different than the UEFA. Now you have TWO sports organizations to hate if you really want to.
Quote from: theDuke on July 05, 2010, 04:32:44 PM
Spekkio,
the FIFA replays everything. I watch game highlights several times a day on various stations, 4 to be exactly.
Botched and dodgy calls are shown even more than goals numerous times.
It's not the FIFA's fault that the way football is broadcasted in the U.S is poorly and amateurish.
People from the States are no Football fans, they don't know more than the 5 top stars of this sport. They also hate to watch countries doing good at something where the U.S team sucks. Why would your stations bother buying the rights for something the majority doesn't care about.
I'm 100% positive that at least one ESPN channel shows highlights.
Also, the FIFA doesn't do things different than the UEFA. Now you have TWO sports organizations to hate if you really want to.
You definitely don't speak for any Americans. How the hell do you know that I don't watch soccer or know people that play soccer? Always a good blind comment. This whole discussion comes down to FIFA needing to use instant replay on goal calls because the "best refs in the world" are a bunch of morons and have been botching calls the entire World Cup. FIFA does not allow replays in the stadium of controversial calls, which they also messed up on when they showed he goal the English got screwed out of. I have no other ideas of the censorship spekkio is talking about, but I'm sure they do censor it elsewhere in the world.
And if you say I don't like soccer because I don't call it futbol, you should check facts because soccer was a termed coined in England when they made the Association of Football to differ from the Rugby Football league in the 1860s. Also, I was rooting for the U.S. but don't get all butt-hurt when they lose like the other coutries. I'm always intrigued to see who can win the whole thing, but don't fall apart when my team loses, since soccer is the only good sport the international community has, but the States has a more diverse selections of ahletics that other countries try to rip from us.
Go be a true fan of not making such a retarded comment about sports and people not knowing what a sport is. You look like an idiot when you do that.
Westfall if you watch football alot you should know better.
You are the ignorant here one for calling the refs at the WC a bunch of morons. It is one of the toughest job with unbelievable pressure. The game where they messed up was in the game Mexico vs. Argentina where the linesman saw in the replay on the video wall that it was an offside goal, thus the referee went to talk to him before he gave a goal for certain. Fact is though, if he would have NOT given the goal, they would have had to stop the game and play on a different day because the linesman used technological aid for a decision. He is not allowed to use that so THERE IS NO VIDEO REPLAY OF CONTROVERSIAL CALLS IN THE STADIUM BECAUSE THE REFEREES MUST NOT GET INFLUENCED IN THEIR DECISIONS. So is the tradition of "soccer". In England, people are still AGAINST video replay, and newspapers dont blame referees for the loss either. Their team was just playing bullshit.
That it was a botched call, we (sitting in front of the TV with chips and beer) often only see it in the fifth super slow-mo from a different angle. If there wouldnt be so many replays we wouldnt even know that it was a botched call. A referee has only milliseconds to decide, in real time from 20 yards away, and their view sometimes blocked by a player. The work they do is SUPERB, and in this world cup the linesman fucked up way more times than the referee.
Shut up bitching about poor work of referees when you have no fucking idea what u are talking about.
The FIFA will hardly change anything with the video replay issue because then you would have to change the rules of football. There might be some stuff to find out if the ball was over the goal line or not but that's just about it.
( I admit that when I said "People from the States", I was exaggerating. The term "majority" which I used later on is more precise. )
PS: As a football fan I advise you to watch some stuff from "referees at work" on youtube. Funny, highly entertaining and gives you and insight of their work. Everything was recorded at the EURO 08
i thought soccer fans were meant to riot, not just go online and rage at people
why aren't you rioting?
Quote from: theDuke on July 05, 2010, 04:32:44 PM
Spekkio,
the FIFA replays everything. I watch game highlights several times a day on various stations, 4 to be exactly.
Botched and dodgy calls are shown even more than goals numerous times.
It's not the FIFA's fault that the way football is broadcasted in the U.S is poorly and amateurish.
People from the States are no Football fans, they don't know more than the 5 top stars of this sport. They also hate to watch countries doing good at something where the U.S team sucks. Why would your stations bother buying the rights for something the majority doesn't care about.
I'm 100% positive that at least one ESPN channel shows highlights.
Also, the FIFA doesn't do things different than the UEFA. Now you have TWO sports organizations to hate if you really want to.
I hate this "Americans don't watch because they are jealous" argument.
Quote from: Volcano Eel on July 05, 2010, 10:10:34 PM
i thought soccer fans were meant to riot, not just go online and rage at people
why aren't you rioting?
Yea I totally forgot how gay the fans are because they can't ever deal with losing. As if being European wasn't enough...
Spekkio, when will you stop being such an idiot? A sports channel etc. cannot show replays if they do not have the rights to show them. Period. Why is it so hard for you to understand that? You cannot criticize FIFA for this. And I simply do not believe that it is only the soccer industry that follow the laws of copyright.
Also, if you really do not care about watching recorded soccer matches then go ahead and record them on your DVD recorder. You do not do anything illegal as long as it is just for your own use. What would the point of having a DVD recorder be anyway if you could not do such?
And the reason why I brought the botched calls + censoring up was because that would be something to criticize FIFA for if that did actually exist.
Dutchies in the Finally, yay.
All hail the flying Dutchmen! Giovanni Van Bronckhorst had an amazing goal, probably the best in the World Cup so far. I picked Spain vs. Netherlands to be in the final for my ESPN bracket before the World Cup started. Hopefully the Spaniards can pull through.
QuoteSpekkio, when will you stop being such an idiot? A sports channel etc. cannot show replays if they do not have the rights to show them. Period. Why is it so hard for you to understand that? You cannot criticize FIFA for this. And I simply do not believe that it is only the soccer industry that follow the laws of copyright.
This is true but I still feel that FIFA and soccer in general has this air of superiority.
@ Curdy, that's pretty amazing that you predicted the Netherlands to be there - unless you are dutch.
Homer picks can come true lol
Quote from: FarleyFan on July 07, 2010, 10:28:30 PM
@ Curdy, that's pretty amazing that you predicted the Netherlands to be there - unless you are dutch.
I am American, but the Dutch have always been my second favorite squad (behind the USA). It started when Van Nistelrooy was their star.
Plus they have the best uniforms with the orange. Haha that is not why but I still like it.
QuoteSpekkio, when will you stop being such an idiot? A sports channel etc. cannot show replays if they do not have the rights to show them. Period. Why is it so hard for you to understand that? You cannot criticize FIFA for this. And I simply do not believe that it is only the soccer industry that follow the laws of copyright.
When will you stop being an idiot?
I agree copyright exists. For the
fourth time now, FIFA is the only major sports organization that does not authorize replays being broadcast. They are the only major organization that will not give permission. How many other times do you want me to say it?
They do authorize replays being broadcasted by companies that do have the rights to broadcast them. They do not authorize replays being broadcasted by companies that do not have the rights to broadcast them. Why is this not fair and why do you think FIFA is the only organization to follow this procedure?
Quote from: YaYz0r on July 08, 2010, 12:45:00 AM
They do authorize replays being broadcasted by companies that do have the rights to broadcast them. They do not authorize replays being broadcasted by companies that do not have the rights to broadcast them. Why is this not fair and why do you think FIFA is the only organization to follow this procedure?
This. It's exactly like video game coverage in magazines, sports coverage for the Xgames, or even sports coverage in general. It's nothing new, they just decided to only allow select companies to broadcast the replays.
Quote from: YaYz0r on July 08, 2010, 12:45:00 AM
They do authorize replays being broadcasted by companies that do have the rights to broadcast them. They do not authorize replays being broadcasted by companies that do not have the rights to broadcast them. Why is this not fair and why do you think FIFA is the only organization to follow this procedure?
Because other sports organizations don't to say no to companies who serve the largest sports market in the U.S.
So there are two possibilities: either this company never offered FIFA the proper amount of money to obtain broadcast rights (unlikely, given its large market and thus its large capital paired with the high interest in World Cup soccer)
OR...
FIFA was just being obnoxiously selective about who gets to broadcast replays (Much more likely, especially given their policy toward Encore games).
And again, we're talking REPLAYS, not GAMES. There is a big difference.
Yeah their policy towards encore games is pretty gai.
But all professional sports leagues have to give permission even to ESPN to use them. Are you saying that the difference between FIFA and the rest is that the rest is less strict about the permission or something?
I don't even...
spekkio: soccer coverage obviously sucks (like so much else) in your country. fifa broadcast rights are expensive, and considering only few americans give a fuck about soccer, it was naiv to expect anything better in the first place.
on a sidenote: i really hope the classic tv industry dies, the sooner the better.
If the FIFA broadcast rights are so much more expensive than everyone else then I can see where Spek's coming from.
Quote from: Rambo on July 08, 2010, 11:44:15 AM
spekkio: soccer coverage obviously sucks (like so much else) in your country. fifa broadcast rights are expensive, and considering only few americans give a fuck about soccer, it was naiv to expect anything better in the first place.
on a sidenote: i really hope the classic tv industry dies, the sooner the better.
Rambo, we're still talking about a station that serves the
largest sports market in the world. This is the city that has enough people to support the highest payroll sports teams in all major sports (I don't consider MLS a major sport). It's also a city that has a huge amount of immigrants and tourists. While I agree that soccer is normally not very popular, the World Cup most certainly is. I guarantee you that WFAN has the money to pay for rights to broadcast replays, and would be more than willing to do so barring FIFA being unreasonable or saying no for some reason.
Quote from: Spekkio on July 09, 2010, 04:47:35 AM
Quote from: Rambo on July 08, 2010, 11:44:15 AM
spekkio: soccer coverage obviously sucks (like so much else) in your country. fifa broadcast rights are expensive, and considering only few americans give a fuck about soccer, it was naiv to expect anything better in the first place.
on a sidenote: i really hope the classic tv industry dies, the sooner the better.
Rambo, we're still talking about a station that serves the largest sports market in the world. This is the city that has enough people to support the highest payroll sports teams in all major sports (I don't consider MLS a major sport). It's also a city that has a huge amount of immigrants and tourists. While I agree that soccer is normally not very popular, the World Cup most certainly is. I guarantee you that WFAN has the money to pay for rights to broadcast replays, and would be more than willing to do so barring FIFA being unreasonable or saying no for some reason.
He has a point there.
As for American sports, I just made a new signature and anyone who knows anything about anything regarding the NBA knows that LeBron has just agreed to sign with the Miami Heat.
I've always been a LeBron James fan but now that he's "gone to the dark side" so to speak, I only crookedly like him. You know how we all kind of crookedly like Darth Vader? I decided to put him in the helmet, Dwyane Wade as Darth Sidious (you know, the guy who convinced Vader to join the dark side), and Chris Bosh as Bobba Fett (because we all know Bosh is destined to play third fiddle to the 2 superstar "villains" in Lebron and Wade).
It just all seemed to fit together nicely so I made a nice little signature to reflect this analogy of the NEW EMPIRE (in the NBA).
I was lazy with Bosh/Bobba so I only added Bosh's hair, but that ended up working awesome if I do say so myself.
If WFAN have had the will to get the rights to broadcast or show footage from the World Cup and the economy for it, they would have gotten them. It is not FIFA's fault that they did not, so stop criticizing FIFA for it. Period.
amen.
Retards.
Quote from: YaYz0r on July 09, 2010, 11:20:44 AM
If WFAN have had the will to get the rights to broadcast or show footage from the World Cup and the economy for it, they would have gotten them. It is not FIFA's fault that they did not, so stop criticizing FIFA for it. Period.
Yeah I don't get what you're basing this off of.
I am basing it on pure logics.
Your logic says that you know WFAN did not have the will to get them?
And/or the economy. Otherwise they would have gotten them. I do not see any reasons to why FIFA should have kept them from getting those rights unless they could not pay up.
Yeah, and if FIFA is too expensive to allow something like replay rights then I can see Spek's point, and not your point.
Quote from: YaYz0r on July 10, 2010, 09:44:28 AM
And/or the economy. Otherwise they would have gotten them. I do not see any reasons to why FIFA should have kept them from getting those rights unless they could not pay up.
I don't either, but they did. I also don't know why they block encore replays of games played at 10 am, but they do that, too. I've told you multiple times that WFAN has both the economy and the will to obtain broadcast rights, at least the ability to replay highlights.
I assume you can (could) watch the games and the replays on other channels. WFAN simply must have lost the negotiation for the rights and they were given to other channels. Why would FIFA ban them from broadcasting/showing footage from the World Cup just for the sake of banning them?
Quote from: YaYz0r on July 18, 2010, 06:25:56 PM
Why would FIFA ban them from broadcasting/showing footage from the World Cup just for the sake of banning them?
That, sir, is the right question.