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Title: Run! Hide! It's a Mercenary!
Post by: frvge on July 05, 2010, 12:18:20 AM
As a small teaser, and to show we're having progress, we just released a few more pics of the Merc's first person perspective.

http://projectstealthgame.com/media/screenshots under the Merc Early Gameplay section.

We're aiming to release a video of some more stuff like this in the next... uh... I don't know. But we're certainly working on it :-). Can take a few more weeks, because a new internal Revision is coming up.
Title: Re: Run! Hide! It's a Mercenary!
Post by: Cronky on July 05, 2010, 02:55:45 AM
Why you got to tease us like that?!

You know how long I've been waiting for a new Video!?

Too long... 37 seconds ...too damn long.
Title: Re: Run! Hide! It's a Mercenary!
Post by: CurdyMilk on July 05, 2010, 07:10:57 AM
Thanks for the updates.  Most of it looks good, except the graphics can look a little weird when the merc has his light shining on the walls and in the vents.  Maybe it's just me idk...
Title: Re: Run! Hide! It's a Mercenary!
Post by: comicsserg on July 05, 2010, 11:04:57 AM
great update :D look forward to the video update ;)
Title: Re: Run! Hide! It's a Mercenary!
Post by: tigaer on July 06, 2010, 12:18:55 AM
Sexy.
Title: Re: Run! Hide! It's a Mercenary!
Post by: unskilled on July 06, 2010, 07:04:40 AM
WoW Whoever made nade explosion effect... grats for him, Great work! But imo rifle shine effect on the scope and that little ammo panel is weird. I want to see how it looks in video, but I* don't care about that thing ingame.  :P

Nice work guys, Peace! ;D
Title: Re: Run! Hide! It's a Mercenary!
Post by: Tidenburg on July 06, 2010, 08:32:20 AM
Quote from: CurdyMilk on July 05, 2010, 07:10:57 AM
Thanks for the updates.  Most of it looks good, except the graphics can look a little weird when the merc has his light shining on the walls and in the vents.  Maybe it's just me idk...
This. The textures look really strange (reminds me of when you just turn lighting off altogether) when the torch is on them. Apart from that, freakin' sweet. ;D
Title: Re: Run! Hide! It's a Mercenary!
Post by: Farley4Fan on July 06, 2010, 10:43:03 AM
Graphics bad.  Cancelling pre order.

No seriously, these were my first words: Wa woa wee wa.

Freakking great guys.  You guys should put cardboard cutouts of the spies in the game room.  Sort of an homage to squat/river mall.  Ya know.  I would love to fake being a piece of cardboard as a legitimate tactic.
Title: Re: Run! Hide! It's a Mercenary!
Post by: frvge on July 06, 2010, 11:02:29 AM
I don't see problems with the textures when the flashlights shine on them. It's a bright flashlight... looks normal to me.

Cardboards of Spies don't really make sense in the setting of Lakehouse.
Title: Re: Run! Hide! It's a Mercenary!
Post by: Farley4Fan on July 06, 2010, 11:07:24 AM
You don't have cardboard cutouts of random people in your lakehouse like I do?
Title: Re: Run! Hide! It's a Mercenary!
Post by: frvge on July 06, 2010, 11:08:06 AM
Not that I know of.
Title: Re: Run! Hide! It's a Mercenary!
Post by: LennardF1989 on July 06, 2010, 12:25:00 PM
He means the gun looking like shiny plastic. It's an error that occurred due to the various transitions from one to another engine (RoboBlitz => UT3 => UDK), we are aware of it and goodkebab/MR.Mic will be fixing it sooner or later.

Thanks for the heads-up, though :)
Title: Re: Run! Hide! It's a Mercenary!
Post by: tigaer on July 06, 2010, 12:57:56 PM
I think he means the fact that the door is black in the first pic and doesn't seem to be lit by the flashlight in the slightest. The wall looks amazing though, just the door is pitch black.
Title: Re: Run! Hide! It's a Mercenary!
Post by: LennardF1989 on July 06, 2010, 01:29:00 PM
I replied to unskilled.

As for the lightning on the door, not all StaticMeshes are setup to accept lightning yet, hence why it's WIP :D
Title: Re: Run! Hide! It's a Mercenary!
Post by: VaNilla on July 06, 2010, 05:36:42 PM
Looks fantastic so far, keep it up! :)
Title: Re: Run! Hide! It's a Mercenary!
Post by: Farley4Fan on July 06, 2010, 10:11:28 PM
I didn't see lightning, and Frvge my lakehouse wouldn't be complete without some cardboard company.
Title: Re: Run! Hide! It's a Mercenary!
Post by: tigaer on July 06, 2010, 10:15:11 PM
Quote from: FarleyFan on July 06, 2010, 10:11:28 PM
I didn't see lightning, and Frvge my lakehouse wouldn't be complete without some cardboard company.

My lakehouse has elephants.

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Title: Re: Run! Hide! It's a Mercenary!
Post by: Farley4Fan on July 06, 2010, 10:16:54 PM
ya i lol'd
Title: Re: Run! Hide! It's a Mercenary!
Post by: Gawain on July 07, 2010, 02:27:14 AM
for crying out loud, the gun still takes up way too much room...

the nade could use some motion blur as speed indicator.

the explosion looks sweet.
Title: Re: Run! Hide! It's a Mercenary!
Post by: frvge on July 07, 2010, 10:18:26 AM
The gun is shown in the 'lobbing a grenade' animation, which indeed takes up quite some space. And it still needs to be tweaked a lot.
Title: Re: Run! Hide! It's a Mercenary!
Post by: Spekkio on July 07, 2010, 12:17:05 PM
Quote from: frvge on July 07, 2010, 10:18:26 AM
The gun is shown in the 'lobbing a grenade' animation, which indeed takes up quite some space. And it still needs to be tweaked a lot.
The gun looks like it's in the normal position in a couple drawings...still needs to move over to the right a bit. It actually obscures the bottom-right quarter of the flashlight circle (which may be a bit too small, but we'll see) as-is.
Title: Re: Run! Hide! It's a Mercenary!
Post by: Spark Mandriller on July 07, 2010, 01:01:02 PM
Quote from: Rambo on July 07, 2010, 02:27:14 AM
for crying out loud, the gun still takes up way too much room...

It'd probably be okay without the scope. Probably.
Title: Re: Run! Hide! It's a Mercenary!
Post by: Farley4Fan on July 07, 2010, 10:26:01 PM
Quote from: Spekkio on July 07, 2010, 12:17:05 PM
Quote from: frvge on July 07, 2010, 10:18:26 AM
The gun is shown in the 'lobbing a grenade' animation, which indeed takes up quite some space. And it still needs to be tweaked a lot.
The gun looks like it's in the normal position in a couple drawings...still needs to move over to the right a bit. It actually obscures the bottom-right quarter of the flashlight circle (which may be a bit too small, but we'll see) as-is.

I agree.  I don't like it when FPS games have the gun in the dead center of the screen.  Move it to the right a bit and it's golden.
Title: Re: Run! Hide! It's a Mercenary!
Post by: CurdyMilk on July 07, 2010, 10:39:39 PM
Quote from: FarleyFan on July 07, 2010, 10:26:01 PM
I agree.  I don't like it when FPS games have the gun in the dead center of the screen.  Move it to the right a bit and it's golden.
Why don't you move it to the left side of the screen for us left-handed people?  It's sad to see the guns always on the right side.
Never mind, everyone is use to playing games with the gun on the right so just keep it.  ;D
Title: Re: Run! Hide! It's a Mercenary!
Post by: Spekkio on July 08, 2010, 12:18:50 AM
Quote from: CurdyMilk on July 07, 2010, 10:39:39 PM
Quote from: FarleyFan on July 07, 2010, 10:26:01 PM
I agree.  I don't like it when FPS games have the gun in the dead center of the screen.  Move it to the right a bit and it's golden.
Why don't you move it to the left side of the screen for us left-handed people?  It's sad to see the guns always on the right side.
Zomg yse!

I really don't know why the left-handed option went away...it's just a model mirror swap.
Title: Re: Run! Hide! It's a Mercenary!
Post by: AgentX_003 on July 08, 2010, 12:36:09 AM
Quote from: Spekkio on July 08, 2010, 12:18:50 AM
Quote from: CurdyMilk on July 07, 2010, 10:39:39 PM
Quote from: FarleyFan on July 07, 2010, 10:26:01 PM
I agree.  I don't like it when FPS games have the gun in the dead center of the screen.  Move it to the right a bit and it's golden.
Why don't you move it to the left side of the screen for us left-handed people?  It's sad to see the guns always on the right side.
Zomg yse!

I really don't know why the left-handed option went away...it's just a model mirror swap.

I think the real arguement would lie into that does aiming with the left improve accuracy ? , If yes then ya i can see this as a benefit. IF No then there is no need =/.
Title: Re: Run! Hide! It's a Mercenary!
Post by: tigaer on July 08, 2010, 12:37:56 AM
Quote from: Spekkio on July 08, 2010, 12:18:50 AM
Quote from: CurdyMilk on July 07, 2010, 10:39:39 PM
Quote from: FarleyFan on July 07, 2010, 10:26:01 PM
I agree.  I don't like it when FPS games have the gun in the dead center of the screen.  Move it to the right a bit and it's golden.
Why don't you move it to the left side of the screen for us left-handed people?  It's sad to see the guns always on the right side.
Zomg yse!

I really don't know why the left-handed option went away...it's just a model mirror swap.

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Title: Re: Run! Hide! It's a Mercenary!
Post by: Ion.67 on July 08, 2010, 06:15:37 AM
Quote from: AgentX_003 on July 08, 2010, 12:36:09 AM
Quote from: Spekkio on July 08, 2010, 12:18:50 AM
Quote from: CurdyMilk on July 07, 2010, 10:39:39 PM
Quote from: FarleyFan on July 07, 2010, 10:26:01 PM
I agree.  I don't like it when FPS games have the gun in the dead center of the screen.  Move it to the right a bit and it's golden.
Why don't you move it to the left side of the screen for us left-handed people?  It's sad to see the guns always on the right side.
Zomg yse!

I really don't know why the left-handed option went away...it's just a model mirror swap.

I think the real arguement would lie into that does aiming with the left improve accuracy ? , If yes then ya i can see this as a benefit. IF No then there is no need =/.

QFE!!! Oh wait, that doesn't make sense.
Title: Re: Run! Hide! It's a Mercenary!
Post by: Farley4Fan on July 08, 2010, 09:22:28 AM
Tigaer is trying to lawl us to death.

I don't think so!  RETALIATION!!

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Title: Re: Run! Hide! It's a Mercenary!
Post by: tigaer on July 08, 2010, 09:30:14 AM
Quote from: FarleyFan on July 08, 2010, 09:22:28 AM
Tigaer is trying to lawl us to death.

I don't think so!  RETALIATION!!

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I lol'd HARD at that one.

I'll get you again when you're not expecting it. ;)
Title: Re: Run! Hide! It's a Mercenary!
Post by: Farley4Fan on July 08, 2010, 09:45:00 AM
I already countered your counter.  You'll see.
Title: Re: Run! Hide! It's a Mercenary!
Post by: VaNilla on July 08, 2010, 10:19:42 AM
Quote from: AgentX_003 link=topic=2285.msg48824#msg48824I think the real arguement would lie into that does aiming with the left improve accuracy ? , If yes then ya i can see this as a benefit. IF No then there is no need =/.

It helps the orientation of left handed players.
Title: Re: Run! Hide! It's a Mercenary!
Post by: comicsserg on July 08, 2010, 11:48:56 AM
Quote from: Spekkio on July 07, 2010, 12:17:05 PM
Quote from: frvge on July 07, 2010, 10:18:26 AM
The gun is shown in the 'lobbing a grenade' animation, which indeed takes up quite some space. And it still needs to be tweaked a lot.
The gun looks like it's in the normal position in a couple drawings...still needs to move over to the right a bit. It actually obscures the bottom-right quarter of the flashlight circle (which may be a bit too small, but we'll see) as-is.
Why does it need to be moved to the right?
here is an example it' s almost in the mid here
http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z16/Gambit_ZA/500x_mw2_favela.jpg
http://serialconsign.com/images/2008/04/COD40.jpg

I think on our screenshot it seems to take much place on the screen because of the scope
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Title: Re: Run! Hide! It's a Mercenary!
Post by: Gawain on July 08, 2010, 03:57:50 PM
the whole thing is just way too fat and too close to the center of the screen.
Title: Re: Run! Hide! It's a Mercenary!
Post by: Farley4Fan on July 08, 2010, 10:15:53 PM
Quote from: comicsserg on July 08, 2010, 11:48:56 AM
Quote from: Spekkio on July 07, 2010, 12:17:05 PM
Quote from: frvge on July 07, 2010, 10:18:26 AM
The gun is shown in the 'lobbing a grenade' animation, which indeed takes up quite some space. And it still needs to be tweaked a lot.
The gun looks like it's in the normal position in a couple drawings...still needs to move over to the right a bit. It actually obscures the bottom-right quarter of the flashlight circle (which may be a bit too small, but we'll see) as-is.
Why does it need to be moved to the right?
here is an example it' s almost in the mid here
http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z16/Gambit_ZA/500x_mw2_favela.jpg
http://serialconsign.com/images/2008/04/COD40.jpg

I think on our screenshot it seems to take much place on the screen because of the scope
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Well it's not like it's a huge deal it's just more of a preference thing.  It's not that bad at all but we'd prefer it to be to the right because it's more like CT's style for one thing.  The place it's in right now isn't a terrible spot I'm just politely suggesting that it be moved a bit more to the right and that seems to be the general consensus so far.
Title: Re: Run! Hide! It's a Mercenary!
Post by: LennardF1989 on July 08, 2010, 10:24:30 PM
Don't play in widescreen and it will be on the right.

Problem solved.

;D

Nah, I agree, but I'm not the one who positioned it, I just placed it where certain teammembers wanted it to be placed. IMO you see too much of the butt of the weapon, making the front obscure the center of the screen too much.
Title: Re: Run! Hide! It's a Mercenary!
Post by: Farley4Fan on July 08, 2010, 10:42:31 PM
I've always thought it looks a bit goofy when placed in the center because I don't carry a gun like that.  The butt of my rifle always sits directly in my right shoulder, not in my chest.  If I'm standing straight, my torso is twisted towards the gun (to the right) making the gun go further to the right in my view.  Also, my face goes closer to the top-left side of the gun -making it impossible to see any part of the right side of the gun.

Maybe it just looks a bit weird to me because I hold my gun a certain way but then again it's the standard way of holding rifles.  But it's not like I can't deal with the gun being a bit more to the left in a video game, obviously.   :D
Title: Re: Run! Hide! It's a Mercenary!
Post by: tigaer on July 08, 2010, 11:37:01 PM
Quote from: FarleyFan on July 08, 2010, 10:42:31 PM
I've always thought it looks a bit goofy when placed in the center because I don't carry a gun like that.  The butt of my rifle always sits directly in my right shoulder, not in my chest.  If I'm standing straight, my torso is twisted towards the gun (to the right) making the gun go further to the right in my view.  Also, my face goes closer to the top-left side of the gun -making it impossible to see any part of the right side of the gun.

Maybe it just looks a bit weird to me because I hold my gun a certain way but then again it's the standard way of holding rifles.  But it's not like I can't deal with the gun being a bit more to the left in a video game, obviously.   :D

If you could see perfectly through your peripherals, it would be close to the center. ;)
Title: Re: Run! Hide! It's a Mercenary!
Post by: Spekkio on July 09, 2010, 05:00:22 AM
Quote from: LennardF1989 on July 08, 2010, 10:24:30 PM
Don't play in widescreen and it will be on the right.

Problem solved.

;D

Nah, I agree, but I'm not the one who positioned it, I just placed it where certain teammembers wanted it to be placed. IMO you see too much of the butt of the weapon, making the front obscure the center of the screen too much.
So maybe the real issue is that the gun is too "long" and extends too far into the center of the screen rather than being too far left.

The reason we have an issue with it is because, unlike other action FPS games, the more viewing area you have as merc, the better off you are.
Title: Re: Run! Hide! It's a Mercenary!
Post by: Farley4Fan on July 09, 2010, 05:16:08 AM
Quote from: tigaer on July 08, 2010, 11:37:01 PM
Quote from: FarleyFan on July 08, 2010, 10:42:31 PM
I've always thought it looks a bit goofy when placed in the center because I don't carry a gun like that.  The butt of my rifle always sits directly in my right shoulder, not in my chest.  If I'm standing straight, my torso is twisted towards the gun (to the right) making the gun go further to the right in my view.  Also, my face goes closer to the top-left side of the gun -making it impossible to see any part of the right side of the gun.

Maybe it just looks a bit weird to me because I hold my gun a certain way but then again it's the standard way of holding rifles.  But it's not like I can't deal with the gun being a bit more to the left in a video game, obviously.   :D


If you could see perfectly through your peripherals, it would be close to the center. ;)

Have you held a rifle? ???

The only way it's closer to the center is if I'm firing from the hip - and I don't recommend that.  Doubt a group of mercs would either (see Argus).  Rambo might (Stallone, not Gawain)...
Title: Re: Run! Hide! It's a Mercenary!
Post by: tigaer on July 09, 2010, 05:50:00 AM
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Title: Re: Run! Hide! It's a Mercenary!
Post by: Farley4Fan on July 09, 2010, 06:14:08 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZi_kDkOjIQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZi_kDkOjIQ) - the gun would cover up the bottom-right side of his peripheral vision (like CT/PT/DA)

http://www.myspaceclipart.com/images/popculturefifteen.gif  (http://www.myspaceclipart.com/images/popculturefifteen.gif) here's another correct stance

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=peZoF9tOAjs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=peZoF9tOAjs) - this would be the result of firing with the butt stuck in your chest (kinky?) and would give the result of peripheral vision in the area that you seek.  He was actually holding the rifle correctly, but this was just a funny vid that I had to share.  "WILLY BOB!"

Just a tiny pet peeve of mine.  This personally would not be an area I'd choose to draw inspiration from COD.

Btw, you totally got me when you edited the post.  You sly dog.





















































Lol no gif here u suck but still <3 lawl
Title: Re: Run! Hide! It's a Mercenary!
Post by: tigaer on July 09, 2010, 09:31:45 AM
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Title: Re: Run! Hide! It's a Mercenary!
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Title: Re: Run! Hide! It's a Mercenary!
Post by: comicsserg on July 09, 2010, 10:14:12 AM
so to stop that madness, here is the question
left is how it's now, right is the question of how it should be

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Title: Re: Run! Hide! It's a Mercenary!
Post by: Farley4Fan on July 09, 2010, 10:20:42 AM
Okay I'll call for a truce with the animations tigaer.

@comicsserg:

The new version to me looks much better.  Much more like CT than call of duty.  And honestly it's not that the old one looked bad at all, it's just that the new one looks great.  Maybe you should start a poll if the other developers would be willing for it to change.
Title: Re: Run! Hide! It's a Mercenary!
Post by: comicsserg on July 09, 2010, 11:46:26 AM
ok, i'll try