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Title: My New PC
Post by: LennardF1989 on August 30, 2010, 10:46:05 PM
I just bought the first and most important part, the Cooler Master Centurion 590

(https://community.projectstealthgame.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fic.tweakimg.net%2Fext%2Fi%2Fimagelarge%2F1215429470.jpg&hash=b16749b74a808484423b8e0b3944e1aa68a95738)

I loved the slick design of this one, especially because it has the power button on top-front (rather than on the side, which is piss-ugly - Yes, looking at your PC frvge :P) and the USB ports on the front, rather than on top of the casing (which seems to be very popular, WHY?!).

Once I receive the case I will order my other parts, a small gripe from the stack:

This in combination with a Cooler Master Silent Pro 700w (with future upgrades in mind, current system uses less than 400 watts).

Notable:
Should run Crysis easily :P
Title: Re: My New PC
Post by: frvge on August 30, 2010, 10:51:20 PM
I got a 690 (really happy with it). Is that comparable? Btw, sounds nice.
I'm waiting for the next-gen CPUs (hexacore and up) and the 6000 series of AMD for graphic cards.
Title: Re: My New PC
Post by: LennardF1989 on August 30, 2010, 10:54:12 PM
Compare it yourself with the picture, yours has the power-button on the side which annoyed me as hell back at GamesCom :P Other than that it's quite similar.
Title: Re: My New PC
Post by: unskilled on August 30, 2010, 11:00:34 PM
IMO you should buy another PowerSupply...something what is tested and used by many users, I have no respect to Cooler Master's PSUs. Buy something from Corsair, BeQuiet, OCZ (Very cheap and successful PSUs) and you should guess about modular cabels that's great to keep clean look inside your PC case. ;)
PSU is most important thing in your PC so don't repent money for it!
Title: Re: My New PC
Post by: LennardF1989 on August 30, 2010, 11:02:52 PM
Quote from: KnoogeR on August 30, 2010, 11:00:34 PM
IMO you should buy another PowerSupply...something what is tested and used by many users, I have no respect to Cooler Master's PSUs. Buy something from Corsair, BeQuiet, OCZ (Very cheap and successful PSUs) and you should guess about modular cabels that's great to keep clean look inside your PC case. ;)
PSU is most important thing in your PC so don't repent money for it!
That specific CM PSU is 104 euro's, which I don't think is cheap for a PSU, considering you can get a 600 watts for 40 euro's.

Got any specific types of those above? I want a quiet one, obviously.
Title: Re: My New PC
Post by: frvge on August 30, 2010, 11:04:35 PM
More Watts != better. In fact, it can be worse because of the capacity planning. My 800 Watt PSU is afaik underpowered (meter says its about 275 Watts), which leads to less efficient energy usage.
Title: Re: My New PC
Post by: LennardF1989 on August 30, 2010, 11:07:54 PM
Quote from: frvge on August 30, 2010, 11:04:35 PM
More Watts != better. In fact, it can be worse because of the capacity planning. My 800 Watt PSU is afaik underpowered (meter says its about 275 Watts), which leads to less efficient energy usage.
PSU's wear down, especially when used a lot (20 hours a day is also not considered normal use).

I was merely pointing out that IMO 104 euro's for a PSU when I can get another one for 40 euro's, isn't cheap. Knooger probably meant slightly less efficient than a OCZ or something, rather than cheap.
Title: Re: My New PC
Post by: unskilled on August 30, 2010, 11:12:35 PM
OCZ ModXstream PRO series, Corsair CMPSU-750HXEU (750W), Corsair CMPSU-750AXEU (750W I heard this PSU have seasonic things inside, so this is a good choice).

Don't buy anything from Tagan, they are broken.
Anyway your CPU cooler or Graphic Card cooling will be louder than PSU Fan :D

Sure, you can buy 40Euros PSU, but I don't compare NoNames to real PSUs.
Title: Re: My New PC
Post by: LennardF1989 on August 30, 2010, 11:15:15 PM
Quote from: KnoogeR on August 30, 2010, 11:12:35 PM
OCZ ModXstream PRO series, Corsair CMPSU-750HXEU (750W), Corsair CMPSU-750AXEU (750W I heard this PSU have seasonic things inside, so this is a good choice).

Don't buy anything from Tagan, they are broken.
Anyway your CPU cooler or Graphic Card cooling will be louder than PSU Fan :D
While we are at it anyway, got any coolers for the CPU? I was thinking of a CM Power v8 or v10, not really necessary for the time being, as I understood the stock cooler works very well, even after slightly overclocking to 3,5GHz. Especially since the CM Case has like a trillion holes in it and 2-3 stock fans.
Title: Re: My New PC
Post by: unskilled on August 30, 2010, 11:21:04 PM
I want to buy Zalman Ultra Flex + 2 Fans for my i5 soon.
But you could buy CNPS10X Extreme. Very good is Noctua NH-D14 and Scyte Mugen 2.
Look on sizes and be sure it will fits inside your PC case and check it won't touch any motherboard cooling or memory in slots.
Also read some reviews :P
Title: Re: My New PC
Post by: LennardF1989 on August 30, 2010, 11:21:41 PM
Once bought a HuntKey 500W after my stock PSU died in my Compaq PC, it still works after like 5 years and it's completely silent. Best PSU I have ever bought, even though it's not a really big brand name.

Thanks for those types, btw.
Title: Re: My New PC
Post by: unskilled on August 30, 2010, 11:31:25 PM
Why do you want build Crossfire?
I guess it's better to buy 1 strong card than two medium.
Not all games support or support so good SLI/CF and it matter also from drivers ;D

But read some tests, and choose if you really need CF. :P
Title: Re: My New PC
Post by: LennardF1989 on August 30, 2010, 11:45:53 PM
Quote from: KnoogeR on August 30, 2010, 11:31:25 PM
Why do you want build Crossfire?
I guess it's better to buy 1 strong card than two medium.
Not all games support or support so good SLI/CF and it matter also from drivers ;D

But read some tests, and choose if you really need CF. :P
I'm buying only 1 5850 (about 270 euros) opposed to my original 2x5770 plan (about 260 euro's), so I can later add a second 5850 when I feel the system needs an upgrade (or ditch the card altogether). At the moment the 5850 scores more than a 5770 crossfire setup. I'm definitely not spending more money on a GPU than on a CPU. The next best ATI card is 400 euro's, ZOMG.

Besides, the Black Edition is said to be comparable to the 5870, which is that 400 euro card.
Title: Re: My New PC
Post by: Spekkio on August 31, 2010, 03:35:17 AM
I'm glad that throughout the years, the one constant is the CPU nerd on the hardware thread raving about the importance of a certain brand-name power supply.
Title: Re: My New PC
Post by: MR.Mic on August 31, 2010, 03:41:59 AM
Running Crysis is good, but really the only thing you need to be able to run right now is PS.exe with the -make extension...

...and notepad.
Title: Re: My New PC
Post by: LennardF1989 on August 31, 2010, 07:23:10 AM
Quote from: MR.Mic on August 31, 2010, 03:41:59 AM
Running Crysis is good, but really the only thing you need to be able to run right now is PS.exe with the -make extension...

...and notepad.
So, you want me to run PS at 20 FPS while testing/deving instead, having to tweak the hell out of it in order to make it run Lakehouse a bit better to normally walk around (about 10-15 FPS)? Also never being able to make cool renders without having anyone else to do it? Not to mention 2,5 hours waiting time when generating shader-caches in which I can literally do nothing. I feel sad :(

Crysis was really a measuring standard for the power of the PC, I don't even have the game.
Title: Re: My New PC
Post by: MR.Mic on August 31, 2010, 11:10:40 AM
Quote from: LennardF1989 on August 31, 2010, 07:23:10 AM
Quote from: MR.Mic on August 31, 2010, 03:41:59 AM
Running Crysis is good, but really the only thing you need to be able to run right now is PS.exe with the -make extension...

...and notepad.
So, you want me to run PS at 20 FPS while testing/deving instead, having to tweak the hell out of it in order to make it run Lakehouse a bit better to normally walk around (about 10-15 FPS)? Also never being able to make cool renders without having anyone else to do it? Not to mention 2,5 hours waiting time when generating shader-caches in which I can literally do nothing. I feel sad :(

Crysis was really a measuring standard for the power of the PC, I don't even have the game.

I can't tell if you missed the joke or not.
Title: Re: My New PC
Post by: MulleDK19 on August 31, 2010, 12:33:17 PM
Quote from: frvge on August 30, 2010, 10:51:20 PM
I got a 690 (really happy with it). Is that comparable? Btw, sounds nice.
I'm waiting for the next-gen CPUs (hexacore and up) and the 6000 series of AMD for graphic cards.

Hexa? They already made Octo... Intel even have an octogint-core on the way.
Title: Re: My New PC
Post by: monterto on September 01, 2010, 08:34:34 PM
A new PC is always the best.
Title: Re: My New PC
Post by: LennardF1989 on September 01, 2010, 11:20:40 PM
Received the case today, so ordered all of the components today.

Instead of the CM PSU I went for a (much better rated) 850 Watt (http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-reviews/26990-9-way-850w-power-supply-roundup-7.html) in order to be able the handle possible CF/SLI upgrades.

Rest stayed the same, so I'm very excited! Should get it Friday! Was extra happy I did it today and not yesterday, as the CPU went down another 20 euros :D (which kind of justified the higher price of the 850 watts PSU).
Title: Re: My New PC
Post by: MulleDK19 on September 02, 2010, 08:47:38 AM
Quote from: LennardF1989 on August 30, 2010, 10:46:05 PMXFX 5850 Black Edition (which I will later CrossFire with a second one)

Eeeuw!
Title: Re: My New PC
Post by: LennardF1989 on September 02, 2010, 01:33:08 PM
Quote from: MulleDK19 on September 02, 2010, 08:47:38 AM
Quote from: LennardF1989 on August 30, 2010, 10:46:05 PMXFX 5850 Black Edition (which I will later CrossFire with a second one)

Eeeuw!
Shut up fanboy, the watt usage/heat was just idiotic to say the least.
Title: Re: My New PC
Post by: monterto on September 02, 2010, 09:12:00 PM
The XFX double-lifetime warranty is the best thing ever.
Title: Re: My New PC
Post by: LennardF1989 on September 02, 2010, 10:32:28 PM
Quote from: monterto on September 02, 2010, 09:12:00 PM
The XFX double-lifetime warranty is the best thing ever.
Hence why I took it over other brands.

Quote from: LennardF1989 on September 02, 2010, 01:33:08 PM
Quote from: MulleDK19 on September 02, 2010, 08:47:38 AM
Quote from: LennardF1989 on August 30, 2010, 10:46:05 PMXFX 5850 Black Edition (which I will later CrossFire with a second one)

Eeeuw!
Shut up fanboy, the watt usage/heat was just idiotic to say the least.
Was speaking about the NVIDIA 470 here. A single GPU would use about 480-500 watts at full load and become like 92 degrees (because the fan only runs at 60% MAX, making it higher makes it reach at least 60dB opposed to the 33db at 60%). A SLI setup would drain about 600-700 watts. Really, I have no words for it.

I rather have 8-10% less performance in games that are heavily tesselated (and that amount in some very rare cases), than taking THAT thing into my setup.
Title: Re: My New PC
Post by: unskilled on September 02, 2010, 10:55:36 PM
Quote from: LennardF1989 on September 02, 2010, 10:32:28 PM
Quote from: monterto on September 02, 2010, 09:12:00 PM
The XFX double-lifetime warranty is the best thing ever.
Hence why I took it over other brands.

Quote from: LennardF1989 on September 02, 2010, 01:33:08 PM
Quote from: MulleDK19 on September 02, 2010, 08:47:38 AM
Quote from: LennardF1989 on August 30, 2010, 10:46:05 PMXFX 5850 Black Edition (which I will later CrossFire with a second one)

Eeeuw!

Shut up fanboy, the watt usage/heat was just idiotic to say the least.
Was speaking about the NVIDIA 470 here. A single GPU would use about 480-500 watts at full load and become like 92 degrees (because the fan only runs at 60% MAX, making it higher makes it reach at least 60dB opposed to the 33db at 60%). A SLI setup would drain about 600-700 watts. Really, I have no words for it.

I rather have 8-10% less performance in games that are heavily tesselated (and that amount in some very rare cases), than taking THAT thing into my setup.

Anyway you won't use 60% of your real PC power in games...  they just don't suppor 4 cores or don't need full graphic card power :) I mean most of them.
<I FCK'D UP A QUOTE :o>
Title: Re: My New PC
Post by: LennardF1989 on September 02, 2010, 11:57:29 PM
OMG, achievement! I've been QFT!

(https://community.projectstealthgame.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ftf-2.fr%2Fach.php%3Fa%3DYou%2520said%2520it%2520all%26amp%3Bb%3DGet%2520quoted%2520for%2520truth%2520for%2520the%2520first%2520time%2520in%2520your%2520life%26amp%3Bc%3Du%26amp%3Be%3D1105%26amp%3Bf%3D1%26amp%3Bshort&hash=55cfa0482290070df53db1548846fef148c8821e)

EDIT: Yea, the achievement generator is awesome (http://teamfortress2.fr/achievements.php?eng)
Title: Re: My New PC
Post by: MulleDK19 on September 03, 2010, 11:12:28 AM
Quote from: LennardF1989 on September 02, 2010, 10:32:28 PM
Quote from: monterto on September 02, 2010, 09:12:00 PM
The XFX double-lifetime warranty is the best thing ever.
Hence why I took it over other brands.

Quote from: LennardF1989 on September 02, 2010, 01:33:08 PM
Quote from: MulleDK19 on September 02, 2010, 08:47:38 AM
Quote from: LennardF1989 on August 30, 2010, 10:46:05 PMXFX 5850 Black Edition (which I will later CrossFire with a second one)

Eeeuw!
Shut up fanboy, the watt usage/heat was just idiotic to say the least.
Was speaking about the NVIDIA 470 here. A single GPU would use about 480-500 watts at full load and become like 92 degrees (because the fan only runs at 60% MAX, making it higher makes it reach at least 60dB opposed to the 33db at 60%). A SLI setup would drain about 600-700 watts. Really, I have no words for it.

I rather have 8-10% less performance in games that are heavily tesselated (and that amount in some very rare cases), than taking THAT thing into my setup.

That's why you get an XFX GeForce 480 2GB GDDR5... In SLI...

Speed..... aaand.... PhysX! :D lol... And less artifacting... And friends...
Title: Re: My New PC
Post by: nubishdubishbone on September 05, 2010, 08:49:28 PM
Quote from: DEADC0DE on September 03, 2010, 11:12:28 AM

That's why you get an XFX GeForce 480 2GB GDDR5... In SLI...

Speed..... aaand.... PhysX! :D lol... And less artifacting... And friends...

yup i got:

Antec 900 Case
Antec TPQ-1200 1200W PSU
Intel Core i7-960 Bloomfield 3.2GHz
EVGA X58 FTW3
EVGA GTX480 1.5GB GDDR5
6GB (3x2GB) Corsair Dominator DDR3 1600
COOLER MASTER 120mm Rifle CPU Cooler
Apple cinema 20" Widescreen LCD
Logitech G15/ logitech Mx 518
Logitech G25
Creative X-Fi Xtreme Gamer
Creative Fatal1ty headset(1/8")

so basically overclockable in the future to 4.0+ GHz without new cooling, my 1600 DDR3 will overclock right with it (MB supports 1600+), and room for 3 (Gah, 3 way SLI is 16x16x8x, bummer) EVGA GTX 480's, which all have lifetime warranty, as well as the board. virtual-surround sound in headphones and  a hell of alot of fun to race with using the G25.

BTW 2 GTX480's in SLI only draw ~400 Watts together using a benchmark app, i saw the meter right next to thescreen, and if you have a modern gaming case (like everyone should) you dont need to worry about temps unless your room is unusually hot.

if you got a PC like this try reinstalling GTA IV (i know you own it don't lie), and DiRT 2, awesomegames that look great and play great too.