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Title: Bring back Spies Vs Mercs Sign this petition!
Post by: irishsj on December 19, 2010, 09:38:24 PM
http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/spyvsmerc/

Please sign this if you wish you could play Spies Vs Mercs again on Xbox 360 and/or PS3. Imagine if we could get the gameplay from Pandora and Chaos Theory in HD with all the maps available to us. It would be easy for Ubisoft to port it over! Lets get this going!
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Post by: DreadStunLock on December 19, 2010, 09:41:42 PM
And if for some odd reason you get 1000 000 votes to bring it back, will it?
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Post by: frvge on December 19, 2010, 09:46:09 PM
PC players once got over 4000 signatures for something and that got ignored :( Or maybe we got the crappy SvM of SCDA instead of the crappy Spy vs Spy of the Xbox because of that. I made that petition if I remember correctly.
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Post by: DreadStunLock on December 19, 2010, 10:00:32 PM
Quote from: frvge on December 19, 2010, 09:46:09 PM
PC players once got over 4000 signatures for something and that got ignored :( Or maybe we got the crappy SvM of SCDA instead of the crappy Spy vs Spy of the Xbox because of that. I made that petition if I remember correctly.

Thing is, there was so many different petitions about SC:Conviction, all of them got ignored, and not single one of them were implemented, didn't matter how many people voted and agreed. I just hope this game will be a bit more open minded.
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Post by: VenomousNinja on December 19, 2010, 10:01:44 PM
The sad thing is, I'd really fucking love to see a Spies vs. Mercenaries in Conviction style, I think everyone would.
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Post by: DreadStunLock on December 19, 2010, 10:11:06 PM
Indeed, the mercenaries would probably look awZome!
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Post by: monterto on December 19, 2010, 11:26:45 PM
Spy vs Spy on the xbox was the most fun I've had since SCCT. Seriously. In face, the whole Xbox SCDA package was pure gold, unlike the shit we got on PC.

The only thing conviction did right was being really short. SCC style SvM would be a huge pain in the ass.
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Post by: DreadStunLock on December 19, 2010, 11:43:34 PM
I actually really enjoyed Conviction, I mean seriously, the concept was ridicilously awesome, why they have gone so lazy on it god knows, it could have been truly an awesome game. I especially enjoyed the variety of black ops suits and gadgets.
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Post by: MulleDK19 on December 20, 2010, 12:52:40 AM
Quote from: DreadStunLock on December 19, 2010, 11:43:34 PM
I actually really enjoyed Conviction, I mean seriously, the concept was ridicilously awesome, why they have gone so lazy on it god knows, it could have been truly an awesome game. I especially enjoyed the variety of black ops suits and gadgets.

Conviction is by far the best Splinter Cell, IMHO.
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Post by: AgentX_003 on December 20, 2010, 01:09:22 AM
Quote from: irishsj on December 19, 2010, 09:38:24 PM
http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/spyvsmerc/

Please sign this if you wish you could play Spies Vs Mercs again on Xbox 360 and/or PS3. Imagine if we could get the gameplay from Pandora and Chaos Theory in HD with all the maps available to us. It would be easy for Ubisoft to port it over! Lets get this going!

Pointless to do so . Especially here of all places, I mean we are offering the exact same style of gameplay
but more new fresh maps as well as a whole plethora  of options that were never apart of the universe.
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Post by: monterto on December 20, 2010, 02:19:41 AM
Quote from: Morten Pedersen on December 20, 2010, 12:52:40 AM
Quote from: DreadStunLock on December 19, 2010, 11:43:34 PM
I actually really enjoyed Conviction, I mean seriously, the concept was ridicilously awesome, why they have gone so lazy on it god knows, it could have been truly an awesome game. I especially enjoyed the variety of black ops suits and gadgets.

Conviction is by far the best Splinter Cell, IMHO.

I was really angry until i realized you were trolling
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Post by: MulleDK19 on December 20, 2010, 03:36:54 AM
Quote from: monterto on December 20, 2010, 02:19:41 AM
Quote from: Morten Pedersen on December 20, 2010, 12:52:40 AM
Quote from: DreadStunLock on December 19, 2010, 11:43:34 PM
I actually really enjoyed Conviction, I mean seriously, the concept was ridicilously awesome, why they have gone so lazy on it god knows, it could have been truly an awesome game. I especially enjoyed the variety of black ops suits and gadgets.

Conviction is by far the best Splinter Cell, IMHO.

I was really angry until i realized you were trolling

That's not trolling. Here's an example of trolling:
Quote from: monterto on December 20, 2010, 02:19:41 AM
I was really angry until i realized you were trolling

I couldn't be more serious. Conviction is the best Splinter Cell ever. Story, Sam, Awesome co-op, lots of nice moves and stealth.

What's not to like?
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Post by: monterto on December 20, 2010, 04:18:34 AM
You are a very good troll sir
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Post by: Farley4Fan on December 20, 2010, 04:42:10 AM
Ah, but the quick identification either makes him a bad troll or you a good detector.  But which?

I never played spy vs spy but i never imagined it as horrible.  I never imagined it as good either.
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Post by: ArgusMercenary on December 20, 2010, 05:19:44 AM
They won't bring it back, no matter how many petitions anyone makes. First, UBISOFT didn't put the servers down it was Microsoft. Second, if it's almost impossible to get UBISOFT to do anything at all imagine how much more difficult it's going to be to get Microsoft to do anything, not that they're worse than UBI IMO.

Lol at what people said about Conviction.
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Post by: DreadStunLock on December 20, 2010, 11:47:32 AM
To be honest, Spy vs Spy on Conviction was a bit too easy. Most of the time I would win because I knew all the spawn points, and I would know if he spawns on point point A or B, if I am close to A, he will spawn B, from point B I can find a spot where I will see him emerge from every angle, from there it's matter of time before I give him a headshot or run around and spamm my button.

Not a lot of people played it, Hunter was like once a day thing, I really didn't enjoy doing it 10 times with same person.

Last Stand, was awesome, a lot of challenge, not splinter cell--ish, but it's a great mode, and before idiots judge about it, try playing without dieng.

Conviction was really nice due to the Krav maga instalment. But the swearing was way too much.
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Post by: monterto on December 20, 2010, 02:55:19 PM
SvS in conviction made no sense and had no mecahnical or strategic skill curve. Last stand is just poorly designed and executed through and through, like the rest of the game. Saying that we should try playing it without dying makes no sense, that's the POINT of the game.

The only fun I had playing SCC was playing infiltration mode with an unsilenced pistol, no rifle, no gadgets or visions with a time limit, and even then it was bad because the game is designed so that you HAVE to shoot at everything and it was just unfiar.
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Post by: DreadStunLock on December 20, 2010, 02:57:02 PM
Quote from: monterto on December 20, 2010, 02:55:19 PM
SvS in conviction made no sense and had no mecahnical or strategic skill curve. Last stand is just poorly designed and executed through and through, like the rest of the game. Saying that we should try playing it without dying makes no sense, that's the POINT of the game.

The only fun I had playing SCC was playing infiltration mode with an unsilenced pistol, no rifle, no gadgets or visions with a time limit, and even then it was bad because the game is designed so that you HAVE to shoot at everything and it was just unfiar.

The point of the mode is to die?...
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Post by: knooger on December 20, 2010, 03:59:53 PM
Learn noobs that ubisoft don't give a fuck about your opinion and about that what you want.
That's my opinion about this shitty company.
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Post by: ArgusMercenary on December 20, 2010, 07:20:14 PM
I never played Conviction. In my opinion it's way too easy, it's either just pressing a button to take down the guys or marking them and shooting. I realize that in SCCT enemies could be taken down with a press of a button as well but the difference was that if an enemy found out you were there they'd try to get away from you or their friends would notice and would shoot you. This is for SP of course. As for the MP, I never liked spy vs spy in DA Xbox1 version I doubt I would like it in SCC. The customization was fine and it would've been great to have had customizable mercenaries and spies when SvM was still alive.
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Post by: NeoSuperior on December 20, 2010, 08:33:07 PM
I don't understand, why people are actually "lending" a game like SC:C from Ubisoft... -> Ubisoft Game Launcher...

Well other than the fact that you cannot play the multiplayer anymore if the servers are down... in THIS case you cannot even play the singleplayer... in other words... you are never able to play SC:C ever again... well as long as you try to stay inside the barriers of the law... if you know what i mean :o

Well w/e,
b2T:

You must see it like this:
Ubi makes what the "most" people want, because they want to make money and to make money you have to sell your game as often as possible for a good price.

So if 10.000 people want spy vs merc, but 100.000 want something "CoD-like", then guess what they will choose...

It's not really Ubi's fault... it's the stupid customers fault, for being "mainstream"! And it's a pity but there are too many of them so it's pretty impossible to stop them...

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Post by: irishsj on December 20, 2010, 09:47:17 PM
http://ps3.ign.com/articles/114/1141027p1.html

It will be interesting to see if there is any multiplayer with these PS3 games
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Post by: ArgusMercenary on December 22, 2010, 02:09:26 AM
Quote from: Meister_Neo on December 20, 2010, 08:33:07 PM

So if 10.000 people want spy vs merc, but 100.000 want something "CoD-like", then guess what they will choose...


Well that didn't work very well with SCC. SCC only lasted about 2 weeks in the xbox live top ten while SCCT was always competing against giants like Halo 2 back when SCCT was alive. The irony is that SCCT is older and therefore should be inferior but it isn't. UBI is never going to beat Halo or COD, they tried it with Rainbow Six Vegas 2 and it failed terribly.
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Post by: SteveTheCookie on December 22, 2010, 06:20:00 AM
I actually hope that there isn't Versus in the next Splinter Cell game. Just so I don't have to decide between playing that, or Project Stealth.
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Post by: AgentX_003 on December 22, 2010, 07:37:07 AM
Quote from: SteveTheCookie on December 22, 2010, 06:20:00 AM
I actually hope that there isn't Versus in the next Splinter Cell game. Just so I don't have to decide between playing that, or Project Stealth.

Oh there is going to be one, they have already talked about it long ago but who knows , I personally think they will fail again due to the suits breathing down thier neck to make a profit.
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Post by: DreadStunLock on December 22, 2010, 11:08:50 AM
That would be so weird if PS came out the same day the new SC came out.
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Post by: ArgusMercenary on December 22, 2010, 03:13:08 PM
Quote from: AgentX_003 on December 22, 2010, 07:37:07 AM
Quote from: SteveTheCookie on December 22, 2010, 06:20:00 AM
I actually hope that there isn't Versus in the next Splinter Cell game. Just so I don't have to decide between playing that, or Project Stealth.

Oh there is going to be one, they have already talked about it long ago but who knows , I personally think they will fail again due to the suits breathing down thier neck to make a profit.

If there is any SvM it's probably going to be dumbed down. No way are they going to make anything that's as frustrating, challenging and difficult as SvM. They think they'll attract someone that way and there's also the bunch of people that complain that it's too difficult. UBI is nothing like it used to be, now it's all about money.
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Post by: Tidenburg on December 22, 2010, 03:17:36 PM
Quote from: Morten Pedersen on December 20, 2010, 03:36:54 AM
Quote from: monterto on December 20, 2010, 02:19:41 AM
Quote from: Morten Pedersen on December 20, 2010, 12:52:40 AM
Quote from: DreadStunLock on December 19, 2010, 11:43:34 PM
I actually really enjoyed Conviction, I mean seriously, the concept was ridicilously awesome, why they have gone so lazy on it god knows, it could have been truly an awesome game. I especially enjoyed the variety of black ops suits and gadgets.

Conviction is by far the best Splinter Cell, IMHO.

I was really angry until i realized you were trolling

That's not trolling. Here's an example of trolling:
Quote from: monterto on December 20, 2010, 02:19:41 AM
I was really angry until i realized you were trolling

I couldn't be more serious. Conviction is the best Splinter Cell ever. Story, Sam, Awesome co-op, lots of nice moves and stealth.

What's not to like?
Do you also see that upsides of 9/11?
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Post by: DreadStunLock on December 22, 2010, 03:41:18 PM
Quote from: Tidenburg on December 22, 2010, 03:17:36 PM
Quote from: Morten Pedersen on December 20, 2010, 03:36:54 AM
Quote from: monterto on December 20, 2010, 02:19:41 AM
Quote from: Morten Pedersen on December 20, 2010, 12:52:40 AM
Quote from: DreadStunLock on December 19, 2010, 11:43:34 PM
I actually really enjoyed Conviction, I mean seriously, the concept was ridicilously awesome, why they have gone so lazy on it god knows, it could have been truly an awesome game. I especially enjoyed the variety of black ops suits and gadgets.

Conviction is by far the best Splinter Cell, IMHO.

I was really angry until i realized you were trolling

That's not trolling. Here's an example of trolling:
Quote from: monterto on December 20, 2010, 02:19:41 AM
I was really angry until i realized you were trolling

I couldn't be more serious. Conviction is the best Splinter Cell ever. Story, Sam, Awesome co-op, lots of nice moves and stealth.

What's not to like?
Do you also see that upsides of 9/11?

That really off-topic and has almost nothing to do with Conviction, + He is right, only that it's got short story and problems with network other than that it's great. It would be even better with more modes and gameplay styles.
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Post by: NeoSuperior on December 22, 2010, 04:36:38 PM
Quote from: DreadStunLock on December 22, 2010, 03:41:18 PMThat really off-topic and has almost nothing to do with Conviction, + He is right, only that it's got short story and problems with network other than that it's great. It would be even better with more modes and gameplay styles.

Conviction has NOT a MULTIplayer!  :o

Deniable Ops is DUOplayer
and
Co-op is SINGLEplayer with 2 players :P
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Post by: MulleDK19 on December 22, 2010, 04:41:06 PM
Quote from: Meister_Neo on December 22, 2010, 04:36:38 PM
Quote from: DreadStunLock on December 22, 2010, 03:41:18 PMThat really off-topic and has almost nothing to do with Conviction, + He is right, only that it's got short story and problems with network other than that it's great. It would be even better with more modes and gameplay styles.

Conviction has NOT a MULTIplayer!  :o

Yes it does. Multiplayer is a term used for games with multiple (More than one) players.
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Post by: DreadStunLock on December 22, 2010, 05:16:25 PM
Quote from: Meister_Neo on December 22, 2010, 04:36:38 PM
Quote from: DreadStunLock on December 22, 2010, 03:41:18 PMThat really off-topic and has almost nothing to do with Conviction, + He is right, only that it's got short story and problems with network other than that it's great. It would be even better with more modes and gameplay styles.

Conviction has NOT a MULTIplayer!  :o

Deniable Ops is DUOplayer
and
Co-op is SINGLEplayer with 2 players :P

Wow, you truly made me lol. I think someone deserves to be in a list of "Don't take advise on gaming from people that are on this list" roflmao
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Post by: knooger on December 22, 2010, 05:25:34 PM
Quote from: DreadStunLock on December 22, 2010, 05:16:25 PM
Quote from: Meister_Neo on December 22, 2010, 04:36:38 PM
Quote from: DreadStunLock on December 22, 2010, 03:41:18 PMThat really off-topic and has almost nothing to do with Conviction, + He is right, only that it's got short story and problems with network other than that it's great. It would be even better with more modes and gameplay styles.

Conviction has NOT a MULTIplayer!  :o

Deniable Ops is DUOplayer
and
Co-op is SINGLEplayer with 2 players :P


Wow, you truly made me lol. I think someone deserves to be in a list of "Don't take advise on gaming from people that are on this list" roflmao
So, is versus QUADplayer?
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Post by: NeoSuperior on December 22, 2010, 05:34:51 PM
 ;D

i always thought about it like this:

1 single
2 partners
3+ group

i know 2 players are technical "multi" too but... i think 2 players are a category of its own, while anything from 3 and up doesnt change the situation much...

well... it's hard to explain  ;D

ANYWAY:
a maximum of 2 players is something that i remember from "Playstation 1" times...

ahhh i just remembered the word: SPLIT SCREEN. While anything more than this is just... different...
__

EDIT: I think i may be too biased about SC:C because of the "ubisoft game launcher" so never mind...
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Post by: Tidenburg on December 22, 2010, 09:33:49 PM
I think by multiplayer he/she/they mean a competitive versus mode as opposed to co-op.

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Post by: Farley4Fan on December 22, 2010, 11:47:06 PM
Splinter Cell used to have very different experiences for Multi than it did for Single.  And in Conviction, it's the same god damned thing in the single player as it is in the multiplayer (coop or versus).  Same gameplay.  Same maps.  Same shit.
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Post by: DreadStunLock on December 23, 2010, 01:40:30 PM
It's still a multi-player doesn't matter how many players, if it's at least 2 players in a server it's a multi-player.
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Post by: NeoSuperior on December 23, 2010, 01:41:28 PM
Quote from: Farley4Fan on December 22, 2010, 11:47:06 PM
Splinter Cell used to have very different experiences for Multi than it did for Single.  And in Conviction, it's the same god damned thing in the single player as it is in the multiplayer (coop or versus).  Same gameplay.  Same maps.  Same shit.

THANK YOU!
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Post by: MulleDK19 on December 23, 2010, 03:56:48 PM
Quote from: Farley4Fan on December 22, 2010, 11:47:06 PM
Splinter Cell used to have very different experiences for Multi than it did for Single.  And in Conviction, it's the same god damned thing in the single player as it is in the multiplayer (coop or versus).  Same gameplay.  Same maps.  Same shit.

Conviction doesn't have Versus. And the co-op maps are not the same as the singleplayer maps.
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Post by: DreadStunLock on December 23, 2010, 04:17:04 PM
Quote from: Morten Pedersen on December 23, 2010, 03:56:48 PM
Quote from: Farley4Fan on December 22, 2010, 11:47:06 PM
Splinter Cell used to have very different experiences for Multi than it did for Single.  And in Conviction, it's the same god damned thing in the single player as it is in the multiplayer (coop or versus).  Same gameplay.  Same maps.  Same shit.

Conviction doesn't have Versus. And the co-op maps are not the same as the singleplayer maps.

+1
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Post by: NeoSuperior on December 23, 2010, 05:09:40 PM
SC:C:

1. You can either play against a human player 1 vs 1 + BOTs, so you got an human opponent. (the deniable ops were you play 1on1)

2. Or you can play a co-op campaing and have a human ally, 2 vs BOTs. (co-op) But also the other 3 deniable ops



SCCT:

1. Coop like SC:C

2. Versus (2on2) here you got a human ally AND human opponents. = What PS will become
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Post by: DreadStunLock on December 23, 2010, 06:06:06 PM
Your point being? I still don't get where you coming from?
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Post by: NeoSuperior on December 23, 2010, 06:59:20 PM
teamwork and player vs player

conviction has both of them seperate only, while chaos theory has both of them combined.
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Post by: monterto on December 23, 2010, 06:59:53 PM
Neo either doesn't speak english natively or is a mislead 12 year old boy hung up on some non-sensical semantics. Either way there are at least 2 players in the other modes.
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Post by: NeoSuperior on December 23, 2010, 07:45:16 PM
Not "at least"!

It's "exactly" 2 players!

If you play conviction, it is:


1.
1 player vs bots (single player) [1 player]

2.
1 player vs 1 player vs bots (deniable ops) [2 players]

3.
2 players vs bots (co-op and deniable ops) [2 players]


in SCCT:

1.
1 player vs bots (single player) [1 player]

2.
2 players vs bots (co-op) [2 players]

3.
2 players vs 2 players (Versus) [4 players] = What PS is going to be


(This is the same as in my post above, but easier to understand... I hope)

yes, i don't speak english natively, but i still write my posts better, than some other people here.

MY POINT:
Conviction can't have both factors (Teamwork and playing against real people, not bots) combined in 1 game mode, while SCCT can (Versus)
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Post by: monterto on December 23, 2010, 08:40:07 PM
No one disagrees that there are 2 players dude, I don't think anyone is on the other side of this.
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Post by: NeoSuperior on December 23, 2010, 11:29:32 PM
ahh that's right, sorry... i guess i drifted off again  :o