CPU: Core i5-760 - 2.8 GHz - 8 MB L3 Cache - LGA 1156
Socket (boxed version) (BX80605I5760/T)
Graphic Card: Sapphire HD5770 1GB GDDR5 Graphics Card
PSU: StealthXStream 2 600 W PC Power Supply OCZ600SXS2
Memory: OCZ DDR3 PC3-10666 Gold Low Voltage Dual
Channel 4GB
Motherboard: ASUS P7P55D - Intel P55 Express - Socket
1156 - PCI-E 2.0(x16) - DDR3 2200(OC) - SATA 3Gb/s -
SATA RAID - ATX
Sound Card: ASUS Xonar DX/XD 7.1 - PCI-Express Sound
Card + UH-10 4-port USB hub (Cheap)
Case: CIT CSCIT1005 Midi ATX Case 500W - Black/Silver
DVD: LG GH22NS50.AUAA 22x SATA DVDRW Drive - Bare Black
Hard Drive: SAMSUNG SPINPOINT F3 S-ATA/300 1TB INTERNAL
HARD DRIVE 7200RPM 32MB BUFFER
Monitor: Iiyama ProLite E2208HDS-B2 Widescreen Monitor
22 inch TFT LCD 1000:1 300cd/m2 5ms (1920x1080) D-
Sub/DVI-D (Black) (PLE2208HDS-B2)
OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium, 64 bit, English,
1 Pack, DSP OEI (DVD) (This OEM software is intended
for system builders only)
Cooler:
Zalman Ultra Quiet CPU Cooler with Dual Mount Support
Mouse and Keyboard: Got it already
Speakers/Headset: Got it already.
After a long long help from Knooger, and thanks to him I compiled a list of needed components, so does anyone see if I miss anything important, suggestions are welcome as well.
Thank you in advanced.
You should look at Dell for monitors. I saw a Dell.ca flyer today they show a 24" HD LED monitor for $189.00 (CDN but our money is par right now). Maybe look at Dell.com see if they have same deal. I have two 24" LED monitors at home and they are a perfect size.
Looks good. I'm anxiously holding out till I think the time is right to get a new one.
If you want, you can get an SSD. I have an 80GB one and I like it a lot :). Good only for Windows-times tho. My games are at my hardware RAID0 with normal HDDs.
Quote from: Bubbaganoosh on January 03, 2011, 10:31:52 PM
You should look at Dell for monitors. I saw a Dell.ca flyer today they show a 24" HD LED monitor for $189.00 (CDN but our money is par right now). Maybe look at Dell.com see if they have same deal. I have two 24" LED monitors at home and they are a perfect size.
Dell is the devil
Quote from: frvge on January 03, 2011, 10:47:36 PM
Looks good. I'm anxiously holding out till I think the time is right to get a new one.
If you want, you can get an SSD. I have an 80GB one and I like it a lot :). Good only for Windows-times tho. My games are at my hardware RAID0 with normal HDDs.
Yeah I would agree, SSD for your O/S is the way to go. I use an Intel SSD, maybe not the best benchmarks but the cost is good and everything I've read say they are pretty much bulletproof. I've had mine over six months and works like a champ.
Changed the motherboard and the CPU thanks to Steve and it turned out a lot cheaper by 20Ã,£ actually cheaper, though the motherboard is 50Ã,£ more, but it's a lot better.
ASUS Crosshair IV Formula - AMD 890FX - Socket AM3 - PCI-E 2.0 - DDR3 1600/1800/1866 - SATA 6Gb/s RAID - SupremeFX X-Fi Audio - CrossFire - ATX
http://www.amazon.co.uk/ASUS-Crosshair-IV-Formula-PCI-/dp/B003F8SNBM/ref=sr_1_2?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1294091393&sr=1-2
AMD Phenom II X4 Quad 955 Core 3.2GHz Processor 4 x 512 KB Boxed - Black Edition
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B002TQYUAE/ref=oss_product
Great stuff in my opinion.
After very long help from Lennard got even a bigger upgrade for a very great price, thanks Lennard.
CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 Quad 955 Core 3.2GHz Processor 4
x 512 KB Boxed - Black Edition (Ã,£121.03)
Graphic Card: Sapphire HD5850 1GB Graphics Card
(198.89)
PSU: Corsair CMPSU-850HXUK 850W Power Supply (130.91Ã,£)
Motherboard: ASUS Crosshair IV Formula - AMD 890FX -
Socket AM3 - PCI-E 2.0 - DDR3 1600/1800/1866 - SATA
6Gb/s RAID - SupremeFX X-Fi Audio - CrossFire - ATX
(156.90Ã,£)
Case: Zalman Z7-PLUS Mid-Tower ATX Gaming Computer
Chassis (Ã,£46.40)
Total: Ã,£654.13
DVD: LG GH22NS50.AUAA 22x SATA DVDRW Drive - Bare Black
(Ã,£12.39)
Memory/Ram: Corsair CMX6GX3M3A1600C9 3 x 2GB DDR3 SDRAM
Memory (66.44Ã,£)
Hard Drive: Western Digital Caviar 1TB SATAII 64MB
Cache 3.5-inch Green Internal Hard Drive OEM (43.00Ã,£)
775.96Ã,£ Total.
Comparison to what I wanted to buy:
Alienware Aurora (non ALX) for 800Ã,£,
IntelÃ,® Coreâ„¢ i3 540 2.93GHz (4MB Cache) Dual Core Processor
Single 1GB GDDR5 ATI Radeonâ„¢ HD 5670 - DirectXÃ,® 11 Enabled
3GB DDR3 1333MHz Dual-Channel Memory
I'd say fuck alienware, the changes are drastic especially in price.
Looks far too expensive for the parts. Also, I'd avoid an SSD seeing as you're on a budget, because once you've started up you're going to barely notice a difference. There's gonna be better and cheaper ones soon.
I'd skimp on the PSU a little...doesn't need to be that powerful/expensive. Still make sure its over like Ã,£60 so you're not getting a shit one.
I also wouldn't get an AMD cpu right now either, last time I checked Intel were pissing all over them, but that was a while ago so things might have changed? :)
I would get a cheaper motherboard and put an intel CPU in it. Read reviews, you can save a lot of money.
Just my two cents. I havent actually looked at any prices/performance stats before writing this, so take everything i say with a grain of salt. Still, worth looking into if you can save a few bucks. =]
this thread is one of the reasons why i switched to mac xD
Yeah but with the current build that I am on I will be safe for overclocking and the PC will last a very long time the way it is now, and I don't mean 3-4 years, I am counting on something that goes much longer, and as well as since I am building it replacing parts will be a lot easier.
Quote from: DreadStunLock on January 04, 2011, 05:51:24 PM
Yeah but with the current build that I am on I will be safe for overclocking and the PC will last a very long time the way it is now, and I don't mean 3-4 years, I am counting on something that goes much longer, and as well as since I am building it replacing parts will be a lot easier.
Last time i upgraded the core2's overclocking potential was phenominal. I'm on a core2duo e6600 atm, with a shit case, shit airflow, and stock heatsink and i've oc'ed from 2.4 - 3.2GHz and i'm sure I can push it way further if I wanted too.
The reason I'm saying this is I'm sure that the i7/i5 have gotten an even better at overclocking potential due to the smaller core, which means less heat = moarrr overclockkkk! :P
Quote from: I <3 U on January 04, 2011, 06:44:19 PM
Quote from: DreadStunLock on January 04, 2011, 05:51:24 PM
Yeah but with the current build that I am on I will be safe for overclocking and the PC will last a very long time the way it is now, and I don't mean 3-4 years, I am counting on something that goes much longer, and as well as since I am building it replacing parts will be a lot easier.
Last time i upgraded the core2's overclocking potential was phenominal. I'm on a core2duo e6600 atm, with a shit case, shit airflow, and stock heatsink and i've oc'ed from 2.4 - 3.2GHz and i'm sure I can push it way further if I wanted too.
The reason I'm saying this is I'm sure that the i7/i5 have gotten an even better at overclocking potential due to the smaller core, which means less heat = moarrr overclockkkk! :P
Intel prices suck, I bought 3.2 ghz for 120Ã,£, Intel 2.8ghz would have costed me 144-188Ã,£. See what im getting at?
I said exactly the same but he already ordered the CPU... My i7-950 turboboosts to 3.2, but can easily go to 4ghz with the standard cooler, although I would probably prefer a more silent one in that case (it's not loud, just the familiair hum something is spinning).
Quote from: LennardF1989 on January 04, 2011, 08:00:41 PM
I said exactly the same but he already ordered the CPU... My i7-950 turboboosts to 3.2, but can easily go to 4ghz with the standard cooler, although I would probably prefer a more silent one in that case (it's not loud, just the familiair hum something is spinning).
As well as I never knew that Ram/Memory can include the sound audio was really surprising that cut the price by 100-200Ã,£, which is awesome!
Quote from: STON3COLDKILLA on January 04, 2011, 02:43:32 PM
Looks far too expensive for the parts. Also, I'd avoid an SSD seeing as you're on a budget, because once you've started up you're going to barely notice a difference. There's gonna be better and cheaper ones soon.
HE's not going for the SSD.
The theory behind it is to spend a little more than you would have and it makes upgrading easier.
For example: He originally had a 5770 for about 99 pounds. A 5770 in Crossfire (as in, 2x99 pounds) is LESS powerful than one 5850 OC edition priced at 198. Besides, the price on that card is dropping like an idiot due to newer series coming up, so eventually you can have another in Crossfire setup and since he has bought the 890FX chipset motherboard, they both will be 16x lanes = taking full potential of multi-gpu.
Second, he originally had 2x2GB 1333mhz cards for about 60 pounds, he now has 3x2GB for 70 pounds 1600mhz, the motherboard supports dual channel memory.
Third, he first had a samsung harddrive about the same price, with only 32mb cache, whereas 64MB really makes a difference (and come one, Samsung for an HDD?! Western Digital FTW!)
Fourth, the PSU went from 600 to 850 for the sake of upgrading and it's more safe, too. Besides, it has modular cables which is nice.
Last but not least, he first had a fugly 25 pounds case to put all those nice components in...
He also had a soundcard because he thoguh he'd otherwise won't have sound... which was another 100 pounds, so we got rid of useless components and put back some better ones. This system can last for years if you spend some money on it from time to time.
I disagree with some of your choices. They are based on the premise that you're going to upgrade. In practice, you don't.
I planned my PC to have dual GPU. Now, 2.5 years later, I still get like 250W on my single GPU system. My PSU was bought with upgradability in mind, but is now underperforming because of it's 850W.
The only think I 'upgraded' was getting hardware RAID and an SSD. My gfx card broke down, so I'm now stuck with an 8800 GTS which I planned to last till last December, but now I'm probably keeping it till I get a new PC.
And IMO you need a good sound card. Really makes a difference when you have a good headset. Xonar DX is a good card for its price. I'm biased, because I have that one too, but still...
Quote from: frvge on January 04, 2011, 08:25:01 PM
I disagree with some of your choices. They are based on the premise that you're going to upgrade. In practice, you don't.
I planned my PC to have dual GPU. Now, 2.5 years later, I still get like 250W on my single GPU system. My PSU was bought with upgradability in mind, but is now underperforming because of it's 850W.
The only think I 'upgraded' was getting hardware RAID and an SSD. My gfx card broke down, so I'm now stuck with an 8800 GTS which I planned to last till last December, but now I'm probably keeping it till I get a new PC.
And IMO you need a good sound card. Really makes a difference when you have a good headset. Xonar DX is a good card for its price. I'm biased, because I have that one too, but still...
I am not a sound loving person, mostly for me is jut being able to play a game with a good framerate and just sound, I will upgrade it that for sure, since I am a computer parts loving addict or w/e :P
Coming with a soundcard, as you said, also comes an expensive headset/headphone. I've never used external soundcards so can't say I miss it too and since his target budget including a monitor was 1000 pounds, the first thing to drop would be the soundcard as he wouldn't have the money for a proper headset anyway (considering he likes using headsets).
I made the choices because Dread made clear he wants to be able to replace parts easily and since Dread isn't someone who buys a new pc every 2 years but rather put's something new in his system, it has to last. Upgrades are future investements, so I think it's good to invest a little more now to make it cheaper in the future. If he would stick with 600 watts and the cheaper motherboard and buy a second 5850 in the future, he has to pay an extra 120 pounds to replace the old PSU (not too mention redo the cables) and can't use the multi-gpu at his best. So compared to those costs, 100 pounds more ins't a lot and still well within budget (considering the screen he had in mind is no more than 150).
At first I kept every part not more than 200Ã,£, but then once I saw the prices are quite low I downed it a bit to 150 or so, some exceptions to graphic card because that bitch is just worth to spend a lot, since it's going to stay for a long time too.
...or you could just buy a mac and save yourself the trouble.
Rambo is right, Macs just work.
Quote from: Rambo on January 06, 2011, 03:31:12 AM
...or you could just buy a mac and save yourself the trouble.
Never liked Macs for their idiotic way of mouses only having 1 button, total bullshit.
Quote from: DreadStunLock on January 06, 2011, 09:18:42 AM
Never liked Macs for their idiotic way of mouses only having 1 button, total bullshit.
that was ages ago. now there's not only right-click, but multitouch.
i have to admit though, you gotta use a third-party mouse and an acceleration curve fix if you don't wanna go mad playing games xD
Quote from: Rambo on January 06, 2011, 12:43:06 PM
Quote from: DreadStunLock on January 06, 2011, 09:18:42 AM
Never liked Macs for their idiotic way of mouses only having 1 button, total bullshit.
that was ages ago. now there's not only right-click, but multitouch.
i have to admit though, you gotta use a third-party mouse and an acceleration curve fix if you don't wanna go mad playing games xD
Microsoft and Windows are the one for me, not complicated, basic layout, no bullshit with different looking windows and crap like that, as well as it's such a piss when you want to switch different windows it pops when you don't want it to.
Quote from: frvge on January 04, 2011, 08:25:01 PM
I disagree with some of your choices. They are based on the premise that you're going to upgrade. In practice, you don't.
Agreed, I bought an 8800GTS and an SLI board and thought if I needed more power I could just whack another one in. Couple years down the line, when I'm beginning to need more power and they don't even sell them anymore/they are ridiculously priced.
Cant even upgrade my GFX card (properly) now without having to get a new motherboard! I've never upgraded my computer, just ended up buying new ones and building them from scratch again. To actually be able to keep a computer for *years* and it still be decent and upgradeable you basically have to be upgrading more regularly than you'd like. Guarentee if you don't upgrade for a few years like I did, if you want a newer graphics card it wont be as simple as just buying another one, probably end up having to buy other shit too.
Quote from: I <3 U on January 06, 2011, 03:10:16 PM
Quote from: frvge on January 04, 2011, 08:25:01 PM
I disagree with some of your choices. They are based on the premise that you're going to upgrade. In practice, you don't.
Agreed, I bought an 8800GTS and an SLI board and thought if I needed more power I could just whack another one in. Couple years down the line, when I'm beginning to need more power and they don't even sell them anymore/they are ridiculously priced.
Cant even upgrade my GFX card (properly) now without having to get a new motherboard! I've never upgraded my computer, just ended up buying new ones and building them from scratch again. To actually be able to keep a computer for *years* and it still be decent and upgradeable you basically have to be upgrading more regularly than you'd like. Guarentee if you don't upgrade for a few years like I did, if you want a newer graphics card it wont be as simple as just buying another one, probably end up having to buy other shit too.
Well that is your problem not mine :)
Quote from: I <3 U on January 06, 2011, 03:10:16 PM
Quote from: frvge on January 04, 2011, 08:25:01 PM
I disagree with some of your choices. They are based on the premise that you're going to upgrade. In practice, you don't.
Agreed, I bought an 8800GTS and an SLI board and thought if I needed more power I could just whack another one in. Couple years down the line, when I'm beginning to need more power and they don't even sell them anymore/they are ridiculously priced.
Cant even upgrade my GFX card (properly) now without having to get a new motherboard! I've never upgraded my computer, just ended up buying new ones and building them from scratch again. To actually be able to keep a computer for *years* and it still be decent and upgradeable you basically have to be upgrading more regularly than you'd like. Guarentee if you don't upgrade for a few years like I did, if you want a newer graphics card it wont be as simple as just buying another one, probably end up having to buy other shit too.
WRONG. Once your up to date with PCI-Express / an up to date motherboard and you have a really good processor in ram, the only thing youll ever have to change once in a while is the graphics card.
Quote from: AgentX_003 on January 06, 2011, 09:43:44 PM
Quote from: I <3 U on January 06, 2011, 03:10:16 PM
Quote from: frvge on January 04, 2011, 08:25:01 PM
I disagree with some of your choices. They are based on the premise that you're going to upgrade. In practice, you don't.
Agreed, I bought an 8800GTS and an SLI board and thought if I needed more power I could just whack another one in. Couple years down the line, when I'm beginning to need more power and they don't even sell them anymore/they are ridiculously priced.
Cant even upgrade my GFX card (properly) now without having to get a new motherboard! I've never upgraded my computer, just ended up buying new ones and building them from scratch again. To actually be able to keep a computer for *years* and it still be decent and upgradeable you basically have to be upgrading more regularly than you'd like. Guarentee if you don't upgrade for a few years like I did, if you want a newer graphics card it wont be as simple as just buying another one, probably end up having to buy other shit too.
WRONG. Once your up to date with PCI-Express / an up to date motherboard and you have a really good processor in ram, the only thing youll ever have to change once in a while is the graphics card.
Good processor in ram?
Dude not everyone can get the stuff you just asked, + all of that stuff gets updated and can get changed drastically, this is not an Xbox360/PS3.
Quote from: DreadStunLock on January 06, 2011, 09:48:39 PM
Quote from: AgentX_003 on January 06, 2011, 09:43:44 PM
Quote from: I <3 U on January 06, 2011, 03:10:16 PM
Quote from: frvge on January 04, 2011, 08:25:01 PM
I disagree with some of your choices. They are based on the premise that you're going to upgrade. In practice, you don't.
Agreed, I bought an 8800GTS and an SLI board and thought if I needed more power I could just whack another one in. Couple years down the line, when I'm beginning to need more power and they don't even sell them anymore/they are ridiculously priced.
Cant even upgrade my GFX card (properly) now without having to get a new motherboard! I've never upgraded my computer, just ended up buying new ones and building them from scratch again. To actually be able to keep a computer for *years* and it still be decent and upgradeable you basically have to be upgrading more regularly than you'd like. Guarentee if you don't upgrade for a few years like I did, if you want a newer graphics card it wont be as simple as just buying another one, probably end up having to buy other shit too.
WRONG. Once your up to date with PCI-Express / an up to date motherboard and you have a really good processor in ram, the only thing youll ever have to change once in a while is the graphics card.
Good processor in ram?
Dude not everyone can get the stuff you just asked, + all of that stuff gets updated and can get changed drastically, this is not an Xbox360/PS3.
Yes I know noob , im talking say buy an i5 or quadcore for cheap , then use that for a while , wait for an 8 core to come out and voila because I myself for instance, have had just a dual core computer
with the highest of processors that you can get for that platform and the only thing i had to remotely upgrade was the graphics card, thats how you play things smart and not have to upgrade time and time again.
Quote from: AgentX_003 on January 06, 2011, 09:52:08 PM
Quote from: DreadStunLock on January 06, 2011, 09:48:39 PM
Quote from: AgentX_003 on January 06, 2011, 09:43:44 PM
Quote from: I <3 U on January 06, 2011, 03:10:16 PM
Quote from: frvge on January 04, 2011, 08:25:01 PM
I disagree with some of your choices. They are based on the premise that you're going to upgrade. In practice, you don't.
Agreed, I bought an 8800GTS and an SLI board and thought if I needed more power I could just whack another one in. Couple years down the line, when I'm beginning to need more power and they don't even sell them anymore/they are ridiculously priced.
Cant even upgrade my GFX card (properly) now without having to get a new motherboard! I've never upgraded my computer, just ended up buying new ones and building them from scratch again. To actually be able to keep a computer for *years* and it still be decent and upgradeable you basically have to be upgrading more regularly than you'd like. Guarentee if you don't upgrade for a few years like I did, if you want a newer graphics card it wont be as simple as just buying another one, probably end up having to buy other shit too.
WRONG. Once your up to date with PCI-Express / an up to date motherboard and you have a really good processor in ram, the only thing youll ever have to change once in a while is the graphics card.
Good processor in ram?
Dude not everyone can get the stuff you just asked, + all of that stuff gets updated and can get changed drastically, this is not an Xbox360/PS3.
Yes I know noob , im talking say buy an i5 or quadcore for cheap , then use that for a while , wait for an 8 core to come out and voila because I myself for instance, have had just a dual core computer
with the highest of processors that you can get for that platform and the only thing i had to remotely upgrade was the graphics card, thats how you play things smart and not have to upgrade time and time again.
I don't know which part of me you aimed noob at, but as far as I know i5 can suck my balls, they might be all fancy shmancy but the price of them are never cheap.
P.S: I kicked your ass at CT so you can't call me a noob
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Quote from: frvge on January 04, 2011, 08:25:01 PM
I disagree with some of your choices. They are based on the premise that you're going to upgrade. In practice, you don't.
wise words.
QuoteAnd IMO you need a good sound card. Really makes a difference when you have a good headset.
i suggest getting an external audio interface for more flexibility and way better sound quality.
i'm using an apogee duet right now, but for you windows guys something like dr. dac prime should do just fine.