http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doom_4
I don't know how long I missed about this information that Doom 4 is coming out, but damn they sure have a quite a good start! Xbox 360 and PS3 will have 30 FPS Lock, while PC's will be at 60, which is great because a lot of the games being ported from consoles are always on 30 FPS, and it's expected from the community to make a program to be runned with it and unlock the frames to whatever specified by the user (SCCT Frame Unlocker)
So what you guys think they will have to offer?
I would like to see a lot more gore, because when I started Doom 3 it was a bit crap, I am not complaining because I started Doom 3 in 2010, so yeah obviously it's out of date.
Quote from: DreadStunLock on February 03, 2011, 08:49:43 PM
So what you guys think they will have to offer?
I'm guessing there's going to be monsters in it
What do you expect in those monsters?
Squishy bits
More specific? And more writing plox :P
I expect them to have an intricate network of organs. Organs optional only upon enemies that are of pure skeleton form. In such cases though, they should have rocket launchers.
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^^^ picture is of one such demon I would expect, in the skinless variety.
I want to be able to shoot their head off and that process would not kill them :P
I see what you did there, Cronky.
I expect it to have a 12 year development cycle that goes through the next 2 generations and then I expect it to be cancelled and sold to the nearest dev team that just made a hit shooter.
Farley you made me lol with a new signature.
Anyway back to the topic: I doubt Doom 4 will go into that category, I mean come on, Doom 3 came out and then Ressurection of Evil came shortly after it? What made you think of that Farley?
I think Farley is thinking too small.
I expect it to have a 12 year development cycle that goes through the next 2 generations and then I expect it to be canceled and sold to the nearest dev team that just got THEIR game canceled and sold to the nearest dev team that just made a hit shooter. They will spend another 12 years, through another 2 generations, and then get canceled and sell it to the nearest dev team that just made a hit shooter.
It's the only logical progression.
How could I have been so blind? Cronky = Next Michael Pachter
lulz all around
You guys are so mean :/
Doom is going to be what Doom always is.
A slightly dated feeling game with graphics that look nice, but not overly nice. Enough scary things to be scary, but not enough substance to make the world TRULY interesting. Doom 3 was okay, and went the audio bit route to flesh out the world, but in the end... I personally didn't care for anything in there. You knew before you started that story-wise you were just going to be in another space station that somehow gets linked to the portals of hell.
Some will say, "yeah! But that's DOOM. Little story, all action! You're a nameless space marine that fights through hell!". True as that is, it's always going to feel stale after your first time through. Even when I go back play Doom 1 or 2 I just end up playing the first couple levels then going, "Yup, I know it doesn't get much different than this".
So for all it's worth, I'm now looking forward to Doom 4 much like I'm looking forward to another Wolfenstien or 2D Mario game. Not necessarily because of what it COULD be, but because nostalgia reminds me that it is something I'm supposed to look forward to.
:::EDIT:::
Oh right, and here are the general weapons:
-Fists (probably with spiked knuckles)
-Chainsaw
-Pistol
-Shotgun
-Plasma Rifle
-Rocket Launcher
-BFG
Those are just the ones that I KNOW will be in there
Well from what you listed seems very....normal and basic to have? Who doesn't want a shotgun against monsters/zombies?
Yeah, but they're the same staples that Doom (and Wolfenstien before it) created. While that's all fine and dandy, the lack of vision shows it's age. While their newer IP's like Rage look to be vastly superior to DOOM in almost every way; DOOM itself is only changing itself cosmetically.
DOOM thus far to me has done what older men/women do to their bodies with surgery to make it look like they're better off than they actually are.
Nostalgia is keeping DOOM alive, much like Duke Nukem... quality of the game(s) has been par for the course in the modern age of gaming.
(keep in mind these are my opinions)
Quote from: Cronky on February 05, 2011, 12:32:21 AM
-Chainsaw
-Shotgun
-Plasma Rifle
-Rocket Launcher
-BFG
Quote from: Cronky on February 05, 2011, 10:59:58 AM
Yeah, but they're the same staples that Doom (and Wolfenstien before it) created. While that's all fine and dandy, the lack of vision shows it's age.
I think your lack of knowing anything about the guns in Wolf 3d shows your age.
Quote from: B-3A Misty Lady on February 05, 2011, 11:53:36 AM
Quote from: Cronky on February 05, 2011, 12:32:21 AM
-Chainsaw
-Shotgun
-Plasma Rifle
-Rocket Launcher
-BFG
Quote from: Cronky on February 05, 2011, 10:59:58 AM
Yeah, but they're the same staples that Doom (and Wolfenstien before it) created. While that's all fine and dandy, the lack of vision shows it's age.
I think your lack of knowing anything about the guns in Wolf 3d shows your age.
...mhm...
Thanks for jamming together two unrelated posts. One talking only about guns I know will be in Doom 4. The other saying that while, sure, the guns in both doom and wolfenstein games were generic; little in games had evolved until the introduction of "REAL guns". Which in it of itself is the progression that it was inevitably going to take. Until even more recently they've only been cosmetic upgrades at that. Now a days we have pixel perfect replicas of real guns, with developers even going out and catching the real sounds to use in game. That still leaves most fantasy-like fiction games, with guns and no restriction of "Realism", that will still use the same things, with little creativity attached.
Doom will strive to make it's "World" unique, even with it's guns, but the wrinkles have shown in Doom 3 (in my opinion), and I don't expect much to change with this new iteration.
But yeah, you're right. Those particular guns weren't in Wolfenstein. Boo hoo
If that "same staples that Doom (and Wolfenstien before it) created" line wasn't talking about the guns in your list, what exactly was it talking about then? Because those posts look pretty related to me!
I assumed people would fill in the cracks of what I meant when saying, "Staples that *insert game* *oh and the nazi version that came before it* created". Much like I'm assuming you can fill in what those two games are without me actually typing them.
The statement was meant to encompass all those that they both put on the table. Apparently I didn't word it right. Mah bad.
30 fps lock on consoles? That's really disappointing.
Look at versus, but still, I just really hope there is something that developers can make to actually make a game scary.
Fail horror games:
L4D, Typical zombie swarm.
Amnesia, Typical crap with the event of taking a key/pipe/dildo/book/note and a monster comes out to slap you, like the guy on the video said they have key/pipe/dildo/book/note senses are tingling!
Doom 3, Same typical stuff, but one thing is nice is that the monsters come out of nowhere and you never expect them.
Fear was great, honestly, the short scenes of the girl popping there and there were awesome, but the typical "Creaking doors, falling rubble, and wind effects sucked...
Quote from: DreadStunLock on February 05, 2011, 06:46:51 PM
Look at versus, but still, I just really hope there is something that developers can make to actually make a game scary.
Here's a quote from the wikipedia page you linked to.
"There are suggestions that, like Doom 2, it will take place on Earth, and will feature gameplay more akin to the original Doom games rather than the horror styled gameplay of Doom 3."
I actually really wanted to not believe and ignore that part of the wikipedia's info, and if that is true, what the hell is the new Doom 4 then? Doom was always about horror and fear...
Doom had scary elements (monsters, setting). I wouldn't say it was all about horror and fear though. Doom 3 really was the one that tried to make horror a big thing.
It's the difference between having a scary looking monster, and having any monster jump out of a shadow where you wouldn't expect.
I would hope there is more "gore" though. You walk through satanic halls with blood and bodies everywhere... let me blow an imps arm off. More often than whenever I happen to stumble upon a berserk power-up.
Looking back, I'm not sure how I found these scary...
must be the eyes... something about the eyes... Oh wait, that ones invisible
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Quote from: DreadStunLock on February 05, 2011, 06:59:03 PM
I actually really wanted to not believe and ignore that part of the wikipedia's info, and if that is true, what the hell is the new Doom 4 then? Doom was always about horror and fear...
Go play Tricks and Traps/Dead Simple/Barrels of Fun and stop making a fool outta yourself.
I swear, next thing y'know you'll be claiming Fallout was always an FPS or Final Fantasy started on the Playstation or something.
How about you go play Tetris you jealous sausage? :P
Doom4 must be moddable!
Yes it should, because they will get paid for releasing The Game.
Quote from: DreadStunLock on February 05, 2011, 09:04:58 PM
How about you go play Tetris you jealous sausage? :P
What's jealousy got to do with you not having a fucking clue what you're talking about?
Quote from: B-3A Misty Lady on February 06, 2011, 05:50:04 AM
Quote from: DreadStunLock on February 05, 2011, 09:04:58 PM
How about you go play Tetris you jealous sausage? :P
What's jealousy got to do with you not having a fucking clue what you're talking about?
LMAO
Quote from: B-3A Misty Lady on February 06, 2011, 05:50:04 AM
Quote from: DreadStunLock on February 05, 2011, 09:04:58 PM
How about you go play Tetris you jealous sausage? :P
What's jealousy got to do with you not having a fucking clue what you're talking about?
Definately not the flaming, but since you so hate me because I beat you on the post count you seem to flip a lot more so, as Agentxmas says "GG NUFF SAID KOOL KATZ TOP PLAYA"
i don't think anyone cares about your post count except you
and you shouldn't either
come back when you get a subforum named after you and we'll talk
actually now that i think about it "dread and agent whine at each other" would fit in pretty well between "off topic" and "about our site"
maybe we should ask for this
Quote from: B-3A Misty Lady on February 06, 2011, 06:17:52 PM
actually now that i think about it "dread and agent whine at each other" would fit in pretty well between "off topic" and "about our site"
maybe we should ask for this
Hahahahahahahahahahahaha! XD
Quote from: B-3A Misty Lady on February 06, 2011, 06:09:12 PM
i don't think anyone cares about your post count except you
and you shouldn't either
come back when you get a subforum named after you and we'll talk
Actually you dipwits are the ones who mentioned it in the first place, so that's an obvious jealousy right there.
no, really, nobody cares about how many posts you have. especially since half of yours are just pointless bullshit or complaining at agent because you have to do that every time he posts, no matter what he actually says.
why the fuck would anyone be jealous? that'd just be fucking sad dude.
Nice Internet Drama (http://www.motifake.com/image/demotivational-poster/0904/internets-are-serious-fucking-business-internets-demotivational-poster-1239888298.jpg) guys.
Quote from: B-3A Misty Lady on February 07, 2011, 05:11:36 AM
no, really, nobody cares about how many posts you have. especially since half of yours are just pointless bullshit or complaining at agent because you have to do that every time he posts, no matter what he actually says.
why the fuck would anyone be jealous? that'd just be fucking sad dude.
I approve of this message ;D
I thought Doom 3 was terrible. You walked in a room, lights would go out, lame secret panels would open and monsters would appear all around. Repeat that a couple hundred times.
Quote from: techsped on February 07, 2011, 09:22:39 AM
I thought Doom 3 was terrible. You walked in a room, lights would go out, lame secret panels would open and monsters would appear all around. Repeat that a couple hundred times.
See! This guy gets it.
I mean, I'll personally still be getting Doom 4 whenever it comes out (just like Duke Nukem Forever), but I'm far from expecting my mind to be blown with innovation.
Quote from: B-3A Misty Lady on February 07, 2011, 05:11:36 AM
no, really, nobody cares about how many posts you have. especially since half of yours are just pointless bullshit or complaining at agent because you have to do that every time he posts, no matter what he actually says.
why the fuck would anyone be jealous? that'd just be fucking sad dude.
You are still jealous, end off.
Quote from: DreadStunLock on February 07, 2011, 10:04:12 AM
Quote from: B-3A Misty Lady on February 07, 2011, 05:11:36 AM
no, really, nobody cares about how many posts you have. especially since half of yours are just pointless bullshit or complaining at agent because you have to do that every time he posts, no matter what he actually says.
why the fuck would anyone be jealous? that'd just be fucking sad dude.
You are still jealous, end off.
Dread, you understand you're derailing your own thread.. right?
Stop trying to get the last word (because it causes an annoying loop). Either talk about Doom again, or let this thread die if the discussion is over.
:)
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Quote from: Cronky on February 07, 2011, 10:20:22 AM
Quote from: DreadStunLock on February 07, 2011, 10:04:12 AM
Quote from: B-3A Misty Lady on February 07, 2011, 05:11:36 AM
no, really, nobody cares about how many posts you have. especially since half of yours are just pointless bullshit or complaining at agent because you have to do that every time he posts, no matter what he actually says.
why the fuck would anyone be jealous? that'd just be fucking sad dude.
You are still jealous, end off.
Dread, you understand you're derailing your own thread.. right?
Stop trying to get the last word (because it causes an annoying loop). Either talk about Doom again, or let this thread die if the discussion is over.
:)
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AgentX, what is that I smell? Oh yeah get your head out of each member's ass, and make sure you check the Productions Team departament.
Quote from: DreadStunLock on February 07, 2011, 10:04:12 AM
You are still jealous, end off.
jealous of what? the way you seem to have such a boring life you need to amuse yourself with posts like that AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGH WHAT THE <BEEP> <RUNS AROUND NAKED> AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGH GHGHGHGHGGLGHGLHGGJJJJBBJGGLLRRGHHR.... one? jealous of your ability to have an internet vendetta that compels you to post and complain every time you see agent say anything ever?
these are kind of bad things dude. people aren't going to be jealous of you for being a loser.
I only read the <Naked running around> but if you care so much about this topic, just take it to PM. Seriously though you are terrible at comebacks.
Your mom is terrible at comebacks.
Old joke, but funny +1
Quote from: DreadStunLock on February 07, 2011, 06:44:31 PM
I only read the <Naked running around> but if you care so much about this topic, just take it to PM. Seriously though you are terrible at comebacks.
okay, how about we get back to the topic then?
and by that i mean you can explain why you think doom 2 is a horror game.
go!
Uhmmm..... Because it has blood, monsters, screaming, heavy violence in pixels? Maybe it's not very gorish now, but back then I am sure everyone fell for it :P
So what, you think Fallout is a horror game? It's got all of those. Half Life? Starcraft?
You're pretty clueless.
Starcraft has gore? Oo My graphics must suck xD
I played Doom 3... once I think.
Got so damn boring after the first 30 minutes.
Just finishing the game felt like a chore.
Just not for me I guess.
Not really any interest in Doom 4.
Just gonna be another stale shooter with lame monster designs.
Oh, by the way, nice little drama you've got going here. :D [sigh]
I felt exactly the same, after I got an assault rifle, I just got way too bored.
Dukenukem > Doom 4 . enuff said.
Yeah considered the fact that the new Duke Nukem is an absolute fail.
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Old Duke Nukem is BEAAAAAST.