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Title: Keep the youngins out ...
Post by: AgentX_003 on July 07, 2007, 06:03:11 PM
H mm just an idea here but .. once this project is at full steam ahead , Since I already know , Frvge does all the internet stuff, id like to request that there be an age verification page  . i dunno about you but i like

playing against older people with maturity.. rather then 12 year olds coming in and singing their Pop music .. I'm gunna toss out the old double agent card, don't hate . but i dunno what it was .. if it was the rating or the lack of popularity .. but point is there was a lot of older people.
Title: Re: Keep the youngins out ...
Post by: goodkebab on July 07, 2007, 07:24:03 PM
I have suggested a host controlled rating system so that you can identify pro servers and noob servers.  It should be a simple matter to filter noobs from joining.
Title: Re: Keep the youngins out ...
Post by: AgentX_003 on July 07, 2007, 09:17:30 PM
WOW .. thanks kebab that just made me think of this .. Hmm how about , a rating system that only the host can see but invisible to others.. 
Title: Re: Keep the youngins out ...
Post by: goodkebab on July 07, 2007, 09:48:27 PM
that would classify as a "nice to have feature"  ....
Title: Re: Keep the youngins out ...
Post by: Overstatement on July 07, 2007, 10:02:26 PM
Rejected!
Title: Re: Keep the youngins out ...
Post by: Farley4Fan on July 08, 2007, 01:09:13 AM
I somewhat agree with the keep the youngins out thing, but I somewhat don't.  Example, I have an 11 year old on my friends list only because he is mature and pretty decent at CT.  I agree more with keeping immature players out, regardless of age.  This is another reason why there should be a rep system, to let people know what the person is like so they can filter them through their game.  There should be a feedback system, sending immature feedback notes to an immature player.  I don't want to play with little gay kids who sing songs and get killed and complain.
Title: Re: Keep the youngins out ...
Post by: goodkebab on July 08, 2007, 01:52:09 AM
turtle?
Title: Re: Keep the youngins out ...
Post by: Tal on July 08, 2007, 03:37:30 AM
Quote from: Papa Skull on July 08, 2007, 01:09:13 AM
I somewhat agree with the keep the youngins out thing, but I somewhat don't.  Example, I have an 11 year old on my friends list only because he is mature and pretty decent at CT.  I agree more with keeping immature players out, regardless of age.  This is another reason why there should be a rep system, to let people know what the person is like so they can filter them through their game.  There should be a feedback system, sending immature feedback notes to an immature player.  I don't want to play with little gay kids who sing songs and get killed and complain.

hahaha like the 9 year old girl i played with last year... she sang primary school songs through out the whole game... man I got pissed off...
Title: Re: Keep the youngins out ...
Post by: Farley4Fan on July 08, 2007, 04:08:16 AM
Wow, I can't believe you remember a game you played last year lol

And yes, turtle.
Title: Re: Keep the youngins out ...
Post by: The Maestro on July 13, 2007, 06:56:07 AM
IF there is is an age verification page all the 12 yearolds would just say that they are 20 or soemthing.
Title: Re: Keep the youngins out ...
Post by: Succubus Dryad Of The Undying Comet on July 13, 2007, 11:11:42 AM
Quote from: SmokE.ScreeN on July 13, 2007, 06:56:07 AM
IF there is is an age verification page all the 12 yearolds would just say that they are 20 or soemthing.
I agree with that.
Title: Re: Keep the youngins out ...
Post by: Farley4Fan on July 13, 2007, 01:31:51 PM
The real only way around this is muting the person.  :-\
Title: Re: Keep the youngins out ...
Post by: Succubus Dryad Of The Undying Comet on July 13, 2007, 03:03:10 PM
Quote from: Papa Skull on July 13, 2007, 01:31:51 PM
The real only way around this is muting the person.  :-\
I want it in the game.
Title: Re: Keep the youngins out ...
Post by: goodkebab on July 13, 2007, 08:04:41 PM
turtle,  your son was the coolest...just for the fact that he knew his age, and knew how to behave around the big kids.  I played with him only once,  but he did get a lot of respect because his father also played.


And no, blacklist serves the entire purpose of the "age limit"....no need to integrate yet another filter.  There are some really good players under 16 yrs,  and face it....i am 32 and that makes me nearly a grandpa in this community.
Title: Re: Keep the youngins out ...
Post by: Daybreak on July 13, 2007, 08:11:29 PM
I knew there was something odd about how well you work and the direction you take things and how you handle them. You're old. LOL. I'm 26 so I'm getting there.

As for the youngins, just use the black list. Or find away to recreate the bug I get often. I lose the ability to hear people talking. That's it. It's happened as the game starts, mid game and at the end.
Title: Re: Keep the youngins out ...
Post by: Succubus Dryad Of The Undying Comet on July 13, 2007, 09:28:43 PM
Yeah, i have a sound bug too, i just stop hearing ambients, i only hear the guns, AND!!!
i can walk around normally, but the point i hear from is like on the other side of the map.

ex: Im on muse, in mono, and i hear that the spy is shooting the lasers in cafe outside, but i cant friggin hear the other merc that's shooting just next to me... friggin annoying (the reticle works fine, though)
Title: Re: Keep the youngins out ...
Post by: AgentX_003 on July 14, 2007, 03:56:44 AM
Quote from: goodkebab on July 13, 2007, 08:04:41 PM
turtle,  your son was the coolest...just for the fact that he knew his age, and knew how to behave around the big kids.  I played with him only once,  but he did get a lot of respect because his father also played.


And no, blacklist serves the entire purpose of the "age limit"....no need to integrate yet another filter.  There are some really good players under 16 yrs,  and face it....i am 32 and that makes me nearly a grandpa in this community.

you seem to be missing the point, the point is .. For chaos theory it says Rated M thus they shouldn't be playing it Period because of their cracked out parents fail to take responsibility of their kids. 
Title: Re: Keep the youngins out ...
Post by: The Maestro on July 14, 2007, 04:04:26 AM
When there is a rating on a game its just a warning. Many parents let their kids play mature games because they know their kids are responsible and can handle it.
Title: Re: Keep the youngins out ...
Post by: Zedblade on July 14, 2007, 07:14:59 AM
no age verification at all. If you don't like them, ban/kick them.
Title: Re: Keep the youngins out ...
Post by: AgentX_003 on July 14, 2007, 10:01:50 AM
K but what about the problem of people having their name bugged so they cant be kicked.. thats the real question at hand ..
Title: Re: Keep the youngins out ...
Post by: Succubus Dryad Of The Undying Comet on July 14, 2007, 10:40:14 AM
Eliminate the bug, and you're ok  ;)
Title: Re: Keep the youngins out ...
Post by: Bionic-Blob on July 14, 2007, 11:51:08 AM
Quote from: AgentX_003 on July 14, 2007, 10:01:50 AM
K but what about the problem of people having their name bugged so they cant be kicked.. thats the real question at hand ..

lol?

that bug exists in CT....this is not CT
Title: Re: Keep the youngins out ...
Post by: Farley4Fan on July 15, 2007, 04:33:37 AM
I guess some people tend to believe that this is going to be CT lol
Title: Re: Keep the youngins out ...
Post by: Covert on July 22, 2007, 12:38:17 AM
Quote from: AgentX_003 on July 14, 2007, 10:01:50 AM
K but what about the problem of people having their name bugged so they cant be kicked.. thats the real question at hand ..
That's CT's problem.
Title: Re: Keep the youngins out ...
Post by: Lurch on August 07, 2007, 01:47:39 AM
I still can't understand why people would even think that you would do a total CT clone with all the bugs and netcode problems and all, since you could just play CT if that was the case.
Title: Re: Keep the youngins out ...
Post by: Farley4Fan on August 07, 2007, 10:59:49 AM
The CT clone won't have the same problems, it will just have the same gameplay.
Title: Re: Keep the youngins out ...
Post by: Cyntrox on September 05, 2007, 01:03:10 PM
Quote from: AgentX_003 on July 14, 2007, 03:56:44 AM
Quote from: goodkebab on July 13, 2007, 08:04:41 PM
turtle,  your son was the coolest...just for the fact that he knew his age, and knew how to behave around the big kids.  I played with him only once,  but he did get a lot of respect because his father also played.


And no, blacklist serves the entire purpose of the "age limit"....no need to integrate yet another filter.  There are some really good players under 16 yrs,  and face it....i am 32 and that makes me nearly a grandpa in this community.

you seem to be missing the point, the point is .. For chaos theory it says Rated M thus they shouldn't be playing it Period because of their cracked out parents fail to take responsibility of their kids. 
Ageism is the most common form of discrimination these days...
Title: Re: Keep the youngins out ...
Post by: Spekkio on September 05, 2007, 05:10:46 PM
lol @ this thread.
Title: Re: Keep the youngins out ...
Post by: Westfall on September 06, 2007, 07:29:16 AM
Quote from: Spekkio on September 05, 2007, 05:10:46 PM
lol @ this thread.

ditto...
Title: Re: Keep the youngins out ...
Post by: LennardF1989 on September 06, 2007, 11:21:45 AM
I agree it is total nonsense, yes, some childs (and not only childs) are less mature than regular players, but you should remember that games are made for everyone interested... We can't just say: "You're childish, so you can't play this game." PERIOD

PS. I really hate people are judged and limited by age, like, why can you drink alcohol at 16 (in the Netherlands) but not one day before your birthday... And why can you drive a car at 18, but not... well, same as above. Same goes for jobs, I know people WHO REALLY WANT TO WORK, but can't because they are to young, it's just BS IMHO.
Title: Re: Keep the youngins out ...
Post by: B1nArY_001 on September 12, 2007, 09:32:11 PM
Quote from: AgentX_003 on July 14, 2007, 03:56:44 AM
Quote from: goodkebab on July 13, 2007, 08:04:41 PM
turtle,  your son was the coolest...just for the fact that he knew his age, and knew how to behave around the big kids.  I played with him only once,  but he did get a lot of respect because his father also played.


And no, blacklist serves the entire purpose of the "age limit"....no need to integrate yet another filter.  There are some really good players under 16 yrs,  and face it....i am 32 and that makes me nearly a grandpa in this community.

you seem to be missing the point, the point is .. For chaos theory it says Rated M thus they shouldn't be playing it Period because of their cracked out parents fail to take responsibility of their kids. 

Just because it's rated M does not mean that some cracked out parents aren't taking responsibility for their children. Maybe in some cases but most parents will allow their children to play M rated games and watch R rated movies if they deem the child mature enough to handle the content. Enforcing an age limit because some players don't have the maturity to behave like they are twice their age has nothing to do with content. Let's face it - there are plenty of adults who lack the maturity to interact with other human beings in a mature and polite fashion. There are also plenty of kids who are far more mature than some of the adults.

I've personally watched you behave in a fashion not befitting even a 10 year old more times than I care to count. You yell into the mic like an angry 5 year old having a fit, you bash people of other nationalities in an almost racist fashion, you cuss people out because you've had a long day at work. You exhibit this behavior, yet are not a kid.

Edit: I'm not trying to bash you either, anyone who has played with or against you would have noticed your behavior. Just trying to point out, this is silly and pretty ridiculous not only coming from you, but period. It is up to the parents NOT us to monitor what their children play and watch. If this were to contain pornographic material enforcing an age limit would not only be reasonable but required in some countries.
Title: Re: Keep the youngins out ...
Post by: frvge on September 12, 2007, 09:52:10 PM
General note: Problems with eachother should be handled via PM.
Title: Re: Keep the youngins out ...
Post by: B1nArY_001 on September 12, 2007, 09:58:26 PM
Quote from: frvge on September 12, 2007, 09:52:10 PM
General note: Problems with eachother should be handled via PM.

This is not a personal issue. I play with Agent quite often as a matter of fact and though his behavior can be annoying at times, it makes him no less desirable of a partner as he is an excellent player and all around not a bad guy. I am merely pointing out the flaws in such a system and the fact that if something like this were enforced, his own behavior would probably earn him a spot on that black list. I'm am not prone to flaming and bashing, quite the opposite, I despise it. I've pointed out nothing that anyone who knows him (Which is nearly everyone) does not already know. If my intent was bashing it would be done over xfire, not on a forum.
Title: Re: Keep the youngins out ...
Post by: frvge on September 12, 2007, 10:32:11 PM
I know. That's why it's a general note. Wasn't really directed at anyone in particular.
Title: Re: Keep the youngins out ...
Post by: B1nArY_001 on September 12, 2007, 11:48:44 PM
Fair enough  ;D
Title: Re: Keep the youngins out ...
Post by: spyder_slayer on September 16, 2007, 04:39:29 AM
How bout adding an on/off for voice and text chat???


(I don't know if this topic has been already discussed)
Title: Re: Keep the youngins out ...
Post by: Gawain on September 16, 2007, 12:35:02 PM
Quote from: spyder_slayer on September 16, 2007, 04:39:29 AM
How bout adding an on/off for voice and text chat???

(I don't know if this topic has been already discussed)
how long have you been playing scct? ::)
Title: Re: Keep the youngins out ...
Post by: Spekkio on September 16, 2007, 06:53:14 PM
Actually, having an option to set voice chat to "toggle" or "press-to-hold" via a hotkey would be great. My headset has the ability to turn the mic on and off, but a lot of people's don't. Sometimes you just don't want your partner hearing a conversation in your house.
Title: Re: Keep the youngins out ...
Post by: Gawain on September 16, 2007, 07:19:37 PM
push to talk can be a nice feature, but toggling off teamchat is just stupid.
Title: Re: Keep the youngins out ...
Post by: AgentX_003 on September 16, 2007, 09:10:52 PM
oh wow look the thread i originally started is resurrected , intresting. Hmm just thought of a revolutionary idea, Similar to Cs but , i was thinking , what about Having a Hostname and Password in console so then you could have hosts login and out of the server via console / it would stop alot of Abuse / have possibly a feature where if someones being a bag of douche, then you could kick / ban -for X amount of minutes / give reason why they are banned inside the game.
Title: Re: Keep the youngins out ...
Post by: Westfall on September 16, 2007, 10:22:12 PM
Quote from: AgentX_003 on September 16, 2007, 09:10:52 PM
oh wow look the thread i originally started is resurrected , intresting.


Well aren't you fuckin special.

As to the rest of your idea....lame. Nice concept, but no. The normal lobby with the optional password protected server is fine. The only thing is that the kick/ban from a server should deal strictly with the IP address, not the account name. Also, the user who did kick/ban should have the ability to undo the kick/ban whenever they want.

Why make such a simple concept so difficult? Anyone is allowed to join ANY PUBLIC SERVER. It is up to you if you want to throw a pw on, or allow any1 in it. Host has the power to boot. Not necessary to put a "time limit" on a kick/ban. And maybe host should kick someone for a legitimate reason instead of being a "bag of douche" and kicking b/c they got pwnt. There are too many other little things that go into the kick/ban concept. You have to realize who the product is going to and how much you DON'T KNOW about them and their personality.

Fin.
Title: Re: Keep the youngins out ...
Post by: Spekkio on September 19, 2007, 04:46:23 PM
QuoteThe only thing is that the kick/ban from a server should deal strictly with the IP address, not the account name. Also, the user who did kick/ban should have the ability to undo the kick/ban whenever they want.
Some people have dynamic IP addresses. Banning should work by cd-key.
Title: Re: Keep the youngins out ...
Post by: Overstatement on September 19, 2007, 07:27:57 PM
Quote from: Spekkio on September 19, 2007, 04:46:23 PM
QuoteThe only thing is that the kick/ban from a server should deal strictly with the IP address, not the account name. Also, the user who did kick/ban should have the ability to undo the kick/ban whenever they want.
Some people have dynamic IP addresses. Banning should work by cd-key.

UT3 will probably work this way.
Title: Re: Keep the youngins out ...
Post by: Westfall on September 19, 2007, 07:48:48 PM
Quote from: Spekkio on September 19, 2007, 04:46:23 PM
QuoteThe only thing is that the kick/ban from a server should deal strictly with the IP address, not the account name. Also, the user who did kick/ban should have the ability to undo the kick/ban whenever they want.
Some people have dynamic IP addresses. Banning should work by cd-key.

OOOOooo. Thats a god idea
Title: Re: Keep the youngins out ...
Post by: Gawain on September 19, 2007, 10:40:12 PM
one should get the possibility to contact the one that banned one in some way. people tend to be fast with banning and sometimes idiots change to nice and skilled players...