just for kicks wanna see what you guys think :
http://www.reason3d.us/reason3dgallery.png (http://www.reason3d.us/reason3dgallery.png)
Its not off topic. The forum description is:
Here non-devs can post artwork for constructive criticism
Hmm. Its ok but not very nice to look at in general. I think if you did it in flash with a menu which appears on rollover instead of "image info" it'd look nicer. The greyish background is just plain horrible and the cheesy drop shadows on the buttons do the images no justice. Ps the gun is a little to shiny.
nice but I dont really like the lustrous style.
Your textures are very bland...
Layout: I am personally not a fan of too much silver. The arrows aren't really sticking out of the rest. Looks a bit, well, the same. My suggestion is to add some more distinct borders. And possibly a vertical scrollbar.
Renders: I like the scope and the reflection. Pistols dont look really used. Too perfect maybe. Ending of the barrel looks weird to me, but I dont know shit about guns. Texture for the barrel hole can be upped.
Add more normal mapping for scratches and other spots.
k ill asnwer or elighten in the order in which you posted :
Tidenburg : thz for supporting non-dev art , especially in my favor ... i agree some people will not like it , however it is for my freelance art and made to be very simple and printer friendly . it will be flash animated with nice effects , i will spend alot of time refining while putting in funtionality .
again the grey background is for printer-friendlyness , and i will take your advice about the drop shadowing , i just wanted something that you would glance at and immediately feel like you know what to do with it . have any suggestions on how to make a button feel catchy and easy to use without overdoing it ?
Neth : thz , imo i dont see it as fancy , but i do love a corporate cobalt color , so maybe thats what you mean .
Binary : again printer-friendlyness , if someone were to be only interested int eh images it would be very easy to only see the images . also it sort of "guides" artsists into seeing the images and using the navigation . it is my personal taste but i am not perfect and could most likely make a better style but i cant think of anything atm .
hmm well it wont have all features until it hits flash , but good catch , it could use more "funk"
the silver/cobalt is my personal favorite besides a gold or khaki and i went with what i got .
the render was made without full effort , i have alot of things going on in my head and right now im more focused on other aspects of art , and learning more newer things . i assume youre right about the render , could be alot different and lifelike , used and fitting to the scene but i am replacing it with new material anyways , sort of a practice art render .
thansk for the advice on the textures and nromals and i didnt feel like completing the model to high standards so i just sort of lobbed at it .
** btw if a moderator drops by : can i show and advertisement banner i made for my mod ? would be nice to get crits on this piece as well , i just finished it too .
Approved. Keep it in this thread tho.
k thz :
(https://community.projectstealthgame.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.reason3d.us%2FRF_ad.jpg&hash=9f53d1c8ee6e4682ec048bf30339876cc967e5da)
it has flaws yes but the overall impression it gives is what im more interested in , but feel free to crit anything about it .
Quote from: Tidenburg on October 27, 2007, 08:14:20 PM
Its not off topic. The forum description is:
Here non-devs can post artwork for constructive criticism
Hmm. Its ok but not very nice to look at in general. I think if you did it in flash with a menu which appears on rollover instead of "image info" it'd look nicer. The greyish background is just plain horrible and the cheesy drop shadows on the buttons do the images no justice. Ps the gun is a little to shiny.
Flash is a fad that ended several years ago. It's overrated and annoying.
As far as the guns themselves, the models are good but it needs a texture. It looks like you just added reflection to a default blinn material...
well youre right geez i forgot peole stopped using flash . happened when , about the time Bill Gates turned into a cyborg and programmed our brains with vista that crashed to BSOD but with the messaage" all your base are belongs to us" , right ?
i updated the mod banner , looks much better imo .
Zedblade I semi-agree with you but if you mean in general flash is out then you obviously haven't surfed the web lately.
When done wrong flash can be awful. I for one, am completely against complete flash websites, they take away use of standard IE buttons and are bad for SEO aswell. But for things like games, presentations etc flash is the best thing for it. No web games use java any more, its all flash and it's certainly not a fad that ended years ago.
Then again you didn't really elaborate about what media in flash you hate so I can't comment any more.
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Reason,
the UT3 symbol is waay to large, it should be off the sights and in the bottom corner. Again, you seem to have gone a little to crazy with the blending effects, an outer and inner glow? Apart from that, the picture isn't actually zoomed in you can see its normal scope but then thats actually only after observing it for ages.
Finally, the stock image should be more action packed. Maybe not just a guy with a giant wheel in the background.
(stock looks better now)
I thought you were leaving already? Hmmm...
Your textures are WAY too bland, looks totally fake.
it supposed to be flashy like gold ... i dono i think its pretty hawt now , look :
(https://community.projectstealthgame.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.reason3d.us%2FRF_adF.jpg&hash=6f7f2b1cbe8457dbce17b253e72ad805906c7536)
papa whatever you are , dont bother me ok , i never said nothin to you .
Looks a bit more alive, but remember that the Unreal logo is red, and should stay that way.
way better. the text needs replacement and so does the ut logo, which should be the original one despite this one looks fantastic.
i fixed the U logo , i had a bad selection mask and it shopped off some of its depth , so recheck the image its been reuploaded . and added some bling .
the font i love it , i cant picture it any other way .
lol dizzle
ut logo is any fuckin color a man with a dream wants son lol . you want it tamala red though huh ... cmon admit it .
Yeah, but you said too much. About Project Stealth, members here, and the amazing work kebab has done for us. You don't seem to have anything better to do then bitch and complain about the models and then post work like this ( that isn't better than goodkebab's ).
You can't expect everyone to forget about how gay you have been and then go "HEy LOoK At AlL MY AwESoMe WOrK GUyZ!! " You aren't gonna get as good feedback as you hope buddy.
On Topic: The edges are really choppy and crisp, needs to be cleaned up. Same with the unreal logo, really crisp. It's alright, but needs adjustments and needs to be cleaned up.
i said too much says you . i aint saying this is great work im learning thats the point of posting it here , for the friends i still have here , and the people who will communicate here .
drop the shit unless youre in a tantrum over my past posts , then ill tell you like it is : you aint even gonna bother me punk cuz why the fuck are you here ? to lick balls till your game comes out .
be a good little mod supporter and let the people i had trouble with speak for themselves , youre no better than me .
i cant stand a fight fixer ... not involved but gets real emotional and starts whipping around while its a 1 on 1 . stay out of other peoples shit and youll live a longer life .
final version ( and yeah i know im not pro at ps but if you see it like i do then well it speaks for itself ) here :
(https://community.projectstealthgame.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.reason3d.us%2FRF_adF.jpg&hash=6f7f2b1cbe8457dbce17b253e72ad805906c7536)
took like all damn day with revisions and shit , sniffed a bunch of ritalin so im a little wired , make a few more steps than neccessary this way lol .
Quote from: Tidenburg on October 27, 2007, 11:00:22 PM
Zedblade I semi-agree with you but if you mean in general flash is out then you obviously haven't surfed the web lately.
When done wrong flash can be awful. I for one, am completely against complete flash websites, they take away use of standard IE buttons and are bad for SEO aswell. But for things like games, presentations etc flash is the best thing for it. No web games use java any more, its all flash and it's certainly not a fad that ended years ago.
Then again you didn't really elaborate about what media in flash you hate so I can't comment any more.
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Reason,
the UT3 symbol is waay to large, it should be off the sights and in the bottom corner. Again, you seem to have gone a little to crazy with the blending effects, an outer and inner glow? Apart from that, the picture isn't actually zoomed in you can see its normal scope but then thats actually only after observing it for ages.
Finally, the stock image should be more action packed. Maybe not just a guy with a giant wheel in the background.
(stock looks better now)
yeah I meant completey flash sites are lame. Flash
elements are great. I didn't specify. Blarg.
It is STILL crispy and choppy. I think that you sniff ritalin before every one of your posts so that could be why you aren't a favorite here. Be a good mod supporter? Are you fucking kidding? You insulted GoodKebab's work, which is fuckin light years ahead of your work, and you tell me to be a mod supporter? Keep sniffing the ritalin and you won't live a long life buddy. Almost all of your posts make next to NO sense whatsoever. Why am I here? To give my input. To give input =/= licking balls.
This guy is like the hypocrytical drunk asshole at the bar nobody likes! :D
yeah i just spent nearly 40 minutes cuttin the logo out and turning a blank logo into fuckin gold , you wanna sit and wait , go upload some porn for me while youre there .
plus i clearly stated numerous times that technically his work is amazing but his style is gay as fuck , you really wanna hear it more so it will sink in ?
let him talk shit to me if he wants he dont need a horsey-ass grabber . and you got it all wrong , i talk random insulting bullshit to manipulate people , and youre the undesired result lol .
[EDIT] look at your sig , then the current merc model lol . unless you guys are pullin the switcharoo then you lost your focus on what you intended .
[another edit] since you got time to defend your mod why dont you let the men handle themselves and go learn to make some logos and advertise . wouldnt hurt , and if you already know how , well learn something else , thats what i did ... damn i know max , ps , cool edit , mixman , fl studio , flash (not much code in flash can i do) , not to mention i research shit in binges so i can back up the shit i talk and also to just know alot of shit .
maybe i cant do everything as good as others , but i can do what i want to , and thats enough ... cuz i wanna do a bit of everything .
In all of your other threads, no one likes you. Leave. You are the undesired asshole that has nothing better to do then make multiple accounts, then bitch about the current models. BTW, I don't even need porn really. I am sure you do, you don't have much of a life if you want to keep coming back here just to bitch. People HAVE talked shit to you. You tell me to respect mods, ( or whatever the fuck you said ), then you call the lead admin's style "gay as fuck". Are you okay in the head?
If you spent 40 minutes turning something gold, then who are you to comment on artwork anyways? My god.
replying with an attitude much like that of a fuckin modder whos workin and got spasms of time on his hands aint comin here bitchin . i work , i rest and rank on stupid persistent gimps like you , dgo do different work , sometimes i gotta wait for shit to happen , life aint ideal .
and if you really want me gone , you can fuckin make yourself disappear or pm a mod . if im so hated by everyone , how the fuck did i carry out this topic till you walked in ? imagine we all turned on you cuz of your punkass mouth and wanted you gone , youd have an ecstatic experience , to be like me .
damn i hope you dont take lies in like candy in real life lol . what the fuck do you care about it , you mentioned it , it was noted , move on .
but im damn sure i know what youre doin . you aint real smart but you aint real dumb either , and you cant beat me at this shittalkin game cuz you dont know anything bout my goals .
Please clarify the last 2 sentences. PM is possible.
was that directed to me frvge ?
btw i finally fix 98% of the aliasing (choppiness) of the U logo ... lol all i had to do was make a damn circle , thats mad funny cuz if you seen my thinkin bout how to smooth it and painting and undoing , well i think its real funny .
Is anyone else like laughing at this guy? I think it is funny :D
The only reason you carried on in this topic was because you didn't start putting the project down and be a little bitch. But I was wondering why the fuck you were still even here because you obviously don't like the way the project is going anyways. Why? Why are you here? Just to bitch? Then act like everything is all cool and post your artwork? No. Just no.
Please, hardly anyone can understand you. How do you expect to win a flamewar anyways if all of your responses look like you just rolled your head on the keyboard and pushed enter? :D
get a fuckin clue i talked to some people who are actaully important and decided to quit the bs .
you dont even know what im doing here , why not sit the fuck back smoke a fuckin doob and see what happens ya flamin dousche bag ... youre the one who aint got shit better to do atm .
lol this is an edit , i aint even gonna respond to you cuz you act like a kid ...
but im still here , i just realized even though the thought was in my head , is cuz its like a modders hangout , i run a non-competing mod so it aint cut throat over each other's work and these people know how to develop games . youre the nigger sheep papa smurf , why dont you gtfo ?
Hmmm... I took a look at your threads. Seems like the important people are just mocking you. :D
I ain't got shit better to do? Isn't this like your 3rd account here or something? Are you addicted to flaming a fucking website like you're addicted to drugs?
And you DID respond to me, how did you not respond to me? That is like me saying that I am not typing this sentence right now. Or that I am not posting a comment in your thread right now. :D
You are making my day man! Thanks for the lolz, I can tell that I'm pissing you off.
they mocked after being mocked , because i had a problem with a member . simple as that , it settled , and youre still ranting around like theres a fire while im comin back here to read if anyone useful posted on my art .
the point is i aint even payin attention to you and reply with whatever half my brain is thinking might do the trick ... cuz you cant speak teh tech .
make a useful post or be reported .
Quote from: reason3d on October 28, 2007, 11:54:27 AM
make a useful post or be reported .
the most ironic statement ever.
reason,
You need to start working from photo referance.
-you need to actually learn how to use photos as texture maps on your models.
The texturing is so bad and so unlike how a gun needs to look that it is impossible to tell the quality of the modelling.
Before you even spend the time modelling a character, you need to master the basics of creating proper texture maps on this gun.
If you wish to make this hi poly and intended only for photo rendering then you need to use HDRI lighting, blurry reflections, soft shadows.
Currently the shaders you have used need to the qualities of the material they need to look like.
yeah i know i mentioned earlier that i kinda lobbed effort at it just to make something to put in a template .
i realize i posted for critique , i meant crit the template , but thanks , i know its not full quality .
reason. You keep saying u aint gonna listen to him but then always reply to his posts?
no i replied to goodkebab .
and if i say something and dont follow through on it , its not important anyways since i myself know that if its not important , i will most likely not follow through lol .
im a confusing guy . i got deep in philosophy , and to just scratch some sruface , what i say isnt always what it means .
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Quote from: Cyntrox on October 28, 2007, 06:57:50 PM
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lol
Goodkebab, lol was false. :D
And reason, every time I say something, you say something back and say " I am not goin to reply to you ". Retarded much?
Useful posting? Hmmm, that is funny. Remember this?
http://projectstealth.splintercellnetwork.com/index.php?topic=498.0 (http://projectstealth.splintercellnetwork.com/index.php?topic=498.0)
Man, a lot of good that thread did lol ;D
How ironic...
A completely flash site is viewed today as unprofessional.
Link: All-Flash A Fast Track to Failure (http://www.sitepoint.com/article/flash-fast-track-failure)
QuoteSo what exactly is the problem with an all-Flash business site?
- Usability takes a tumble
- Accessibility dies
- Modem users suffer, and
- Search engines don't index Flash files!
Taking the words right out of reason3d's mouth. Pretty much, he wants to grab my balls.
He is pretty crazy, I'll tell ya that much. Out of reach of help? Maybe... actually yeah, way out of reach... He's in his own little world now, must be fun not living in the real world. I wonder what it is like, wanting to grab balls and such, must suck for him.
And yeah, flash sucks.
Quote from: MR.Mic on October 28, 2007, 09:20:50 PM
A completely flash site is viewed today as unprofessional.
Link: All-Flash A Fast Track to Failure (http://www.sitepoint.com/article/flash-fast-track-failure)
QuoteSo what exactly is the problem with an all-Flash business site?
- Usability takes a tumble
- Accessibility dies
- Modem users suffer, and
- Search engines don't index Flash files!
As a webdeveloper specialized in accessiblity and SEO, I know that there are ways around them. But in general, Flash-only sites suck.
Quote from: Papa Skull on October 28, 2007, 01:47:40 AM
In all of your other threads, no one likes you. Leave. You are the undesired asshole that has nothing better to do then make multiple accounts, then bitch about the current models. BTW, I don't even need porn really. I am sure you do, you don't have much of a life if you want to keep coming back here just to bitch. People HAVE talked shit to you. You tell me to respect mods, ( or whatever the fuck you said ), then you call the lead admin's style "gay as fuck". Are you okay in the head?
If you spent 40 minutes turning something gold, then who are you to comment on artwork anyways? My god.
sorry, but really, you are kinda the ass here. he never really stated anything annoying (unusual, i know).
(talking about papa skull)
ontopic: i do not like the gun. but the scope needs a lil work, then it looks not that bad.
I have no desire to stay on topic with this soo with that being said, I really feel this particular topic is taking away attention from the main focus of Project stealth .. so All in Favor for this thread to be closed.. say I ...
I :) . ::)
vote4 deleting reason3d's threads
Quote from: AgentX_003 on October 29, 2007, 08:44:37 PM
I have no desire to stay on topic with this soo with that being said, I really feel this particular topic is taking away attention from the main focus of Project stealth .. so All in Favor for this thread to be closed.. say I ...
I :) . ::)
Gladly, what you think is irrelevant. The presentation forum is for everyone to post their work, not just for PS devs to show off PS related things. Reasons has all the right to have this thread and have it kept open as long as his and other people's immatures rants and insults don't get out of control.
Quote from: Papa Skull on October 30, 2007, 01:57:05 AM
I vote for not only deleting his threads, but his posts as well. I mean, we will have plenty when he returns in a few months right? And no, I am not being the ass. I am putting the ass in his rightful place. He has said stupid shit, totally disrespectful shit.
Voting here isn't going to do anything. if you really care that much, make a poll.
uh, i vote.
Yeah, I just figured I'd stop talking to him altogether recently.
If you think his persistance in accounts here is crazy, then you should have seen him on Ubi.
i made what ? 4 accoutns , 2 of which were to 1: register in the first place , and 2 : to re-register since my account was deleted . that leaves 2 pointless accounts .
and btw i have skill in the area of game development so what you say dont really hold any water .