i have access to hundreds of images , knowing off the top of my head more than a dozen sites about any kind of gear that would be used , and i realize while youre cloning versus and all , after that will be custom implementation ...
so i have some ideas , which i will update this topic with .
first , i think a number of reticles should be present , as no first person shooter (and this is 1st /3rd for anyone not ocnvinced merc is most certainly first person , and should act that way) i know of ever without more than 3 reticles .
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the scope in DA is pretty good , but an Acog Reflex is a bit much . also the sight in double agent solo is pretty tight , i love the clarity in the glassed lens , so maybe something like above would be a good choice for upcoming customizations
and this for a merc weapon :
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if mercs went silenced the gameplay would certainly be more interesting , since the sound of fire is often what leads the spies to the merc's position . but i believe that pt and ct versus was what it was , and it should be an option if it is even considered .
Haven't used the reticle in DA so can't comment but it does look nice.
Honestly, while I love the sound and idea of silenced weapons, I think it would alter the game too much. You're right that a spy relies on the sound of a gun to know the position and such of the merc but that can be quite vital for spies survival. So yeah, at most it should be an option or some special gameplay. Besides, something looks wrong with that gun. The grenade launcher looks ugly and the silencer is sooo damn long. Without the silencer and the grenade launcher, the barrel and the whole gun itself would look really cool.
well thats a FAMAS RIS with m203 grenade launcher , the m203 launcher is what the army uses .
the overall length would be extended yes , but you gain the element of stealth that cannot be achieved if your rifle echoes througout the entire map . which is why i proposed a second game-type for use of stealthy mercs .
its one thing to hear a merc and smoke him till he coughs and passes out , its another for him to do many of the things you do , and still find him to attack .
also here is a side view :
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the famas has a 1200 RPM Rate of Fire , and these extended clips would hold more shells. also the FAMAS with an upper handle would be sort of cumberosme to mount a scope onto , not much , but a flat upp rail is a nice touch . match that with a 4 x sight and cyclable reticles and you've got yourself a pretty mean wepaon .
I know it's an M203 I'm just saying it looks really goofy on that gun. Maybe if this was added as a second gun or different gameplay then the merc should have slower movement.
That gun is still pretty sick looking overall. The M203 just looks a lot better on an M16. I prefer the shorter M203 than the longer one. Plus, the shorte M203 would seem more practical in Project Stealth since they're more confined maps.
yeah none of this would need to be exactly the same , if even considered .
Quote from: Cpl.Dimz on November 15, 2006, 11:07:59 PM
if mercs went silenced the gameplay would certainly be more interesting , since the sound of fire is often what leads the spies to the merc's position . but i believe that pt and ct versus was what it was , and it should be an option if it is even considered .
u can make the gun silent but then u get more a spy vs spy game... the are both stealth then or their way..
well that would be wrong ... i mean why would anyone make a game out of chaos thoery ... oh snap , theyre already tryiong to . and i hope this goes to court , ubi would make a killin off you tardws , for recording versus sounds and sayin "it is all our intellectual property , since the idea , the idea for graphics , the idea for the gameplay is all stolen * team gets tackled* ...
Didn't you want a clean slate? No one has started shit with you and you're already bitching at us.
read zed's post LOL nub vega
BIG DEAL, so you got shot down, it doesn't mean you gotta go and start bitching at everyone. Seriously, keep your shit with him then and not anyone else.
i didnt get shot down .. ITS A FUCKIN CONSPIRACY AGAINST ME , FUCKING RETARD .
Uhh, Dimz I've known you for a decent amount. Not that long but at least 8 months or so. I know your attitude. Don't fuck with me and say "OMG I DON'T NEED ANYONE HERE YOURE ALL TARDS. FUCKING CONSPIRACY." Got news for you, REGARDLESS OF THAT, it won't change. I don't even care what the hell is against you, you're just venting frustration. People are gonna view you the same till you change your fucking attitude. I don't sit here and tell you "do this and do that," I tried that before and you wouldn't listen. Yeah it sucks to be you, so do something about it. I'm telling you the truth.
Alright, I'm handing out a ban here. I tried to change Zed's mind on the whole "Dimz can't join" discussion but that's it. Insulting everyone in your path isn't what we're looking for here, regardless of Zed's veto against you joining.
You've got a partial ban so you can still read everything since I can understand that you're upset. It will expire in 14 days. After that you can try to be an upstanding community member or you can get a full ban that will never expire.
PLZ GET BACK ON TOPIC EVERYONE.
I would prefer something like this for the Mercs:
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Although not realistic, because the HKGLM was made for the HK416 rifle, it looks better like that, and this game is not exactly a sim.
And this for the Spies:
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With a modified version of the flash hider so that it looks like something that can shoot "spy bullets".
The first gun looks pretty sweet. The M203 looks decent since it's shorter but still a little out of place on the gun.
I'm assuming the 2nd gun is just for looks? No way should spies get real guns ;D
Bah, if no one has noticed but the spy gun in SCCT SvM is a P90PDW... so this has pretty much the same purpose in reality. Of course, we modify it slightly, just based on that weapon. And yeah, the reason the 203 doesnt fit well is because the image was Photoshopped. :D
Yup, funny enough I totally forgot about how the spy's gun was a P90. I remember back when I first started playing I was suprised that the p90 was just a little tazer gun. It worked though!
It's a real P90 in SvS on Xbox. It's cool. I should do a lil video someday.
EDIT: Finished Recording, I'm packing it up and uploading to YouTube. 6 Minutes, showing off what someone who never played the map nor the game would do. (Me) I didin't bother with audio, through, it's just captured from my VIVO Video card.
Basically it's kill the other spy, and hack into his computer. No passive defenses, nothing, just a P90, some combo wall jumps to pick up an item and then boom, frag up the fucker.
Yeah but the P90 IMHO is too big, we need something compact and cool looking, MP7 with retracted buttstock and front handle raised is teh pwn.
Yea maybe the m4 with out granade launcher :D for the mecs Something like this but black!
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I can Make it Black if you guys want to see it Black.
Over and Out!!
Meathead
meathead... just 1 little question... do u think ur realy good @ al sort of stuf whit programing?
I dont know what you are asking :P I can not understand it :- \
He asked if you think that you're really good at programming.
duh... and he knows that was the question... but he doesnt wants to answere:)
I think i am ok but not really good lol :p speak english next time :P
i think it was english... maybe not the best choice of words but it was english.
and lets get back on-topic now
Hey you threw us off topic :P Anyway what do you think about the gun?
sup;
im back after the cooling off period . that image was not photoshopped , it is an airsoft . the only reason i chose it with the m203 is because the nade launchers in versus were fairly similar , though the oonly time youll notice the GL is when you view someone else who is merc in 3rd person .
if you want concept designs , please ask , i will make a design and there are a few modelers here , at least , so we will most likely all make a concept and the most appealing one wins .
also about basing the weapons on real ones ... the spy weapon is indeed based heavily on the p90 , with modifications . the only real reason we would need to modify a real weapon is for copyright reasons , we dont have a license , so we dont use a full model from someone's company .
something really cool that i think could be done easily would be that instead of the reticle looking like a predesigned reticle, like in CT with the mercs. you could make it a simple oval shaped dot in the middle (horizantally) and a small line going thru it (horizantally again). here is the cool part which makes it feel like new tech and such. you could make the reticle i just explained a little undefined and blurry. so when u turn around and flcik ur screen you can see a quick wash of it wherever u turn. if u do it right it could look really amazing
G36C
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http://www.combat2000shop.com/combat2000/airgun/electronic_gun/intouch/marui_g36c/tokyo_marui_g36c.htm
It's a good size for the merc, and a launcher can be designed underneath for extra looks and functionality.
I think the M4 is far too common and reminds me too much of Delta Force/Special Ops games (no offense M4).
Interesting weapon. Looks like a lot of functionality.