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I did say until you making something better, constructively criticise...if you do make something better, like GUI has, then he should criticse more heavily, because you clearly know (like GUI does) what you are talking about.
At least contribute something before you start telling people how shit their stuff is. Im pretty sure if he showed you that gun in RL, you would not be so harsh to him.
@ meal, video game, computer, song etc. you have paid for all of these, so that gives you the right to say if they are shit. You ever got annoyed because people talk shit about songs on You Tube without posting anything else in comparison. Criticism without an alternative has no purpose, and should not be included in a thread which is called "presentation forum...for constructive criticism" (although it has been moved now i realise).  You didnt do anything (or pay or w.e.) for they gun pictures posted by ray, so you shouldnt say they are shit, you should constructively criticise.

Dont take this as a "leelu is telling me what to do so i will flame her" kinda thread, because really all i have said is what the devs have already decided on should be the purpose of the thread ray posted in.
I can understand he was so pissed when you all flamed him for no reason about his gun.

@FR33T4RD: grow up, you wont get the sympathy vote...and YES, you do want to prove stuff in this forum, you have been searching for respect in it for months now. I dont hate you, i just pity you. I <3 how you jump on the bandwagon (like a few others do) as soon as someone criticises in this forum. You dont start arguments/criticise, you just join in afterwards. Why? Because its far safer for you then, you already know that the person starting the argument supports your views. Your just the mindless lapdog of the others in this forum.

@Westfall: whatever you post isnt for me just to criticise, is for all to either admire/criticise constructively...

i hope im wrong, but only time will tell i guess.
Minimum 6months for beta i reckon.
You dont have many maps yet? Probably 1year + if not.

So FR33T4RD you havent produced anything, but join in the criticisms anyway...like a sheep.
The worst thing about you FR33T4RD is that you are the sort of person who is willing to say stuff electronically, which you wouldn't say to somebody in person. I bet ur the sort of kid who sits at the back of the classroom and is ignored by the rest of your year but thinks up stuff in your head you would say and do to all these other people who ignore you. There are people like that in my classes. I pity them.
They are nice models Brazil.

Um, there is NO WAY that PS will be ready in 3 months lol.
Gonna be more like 2 years i reckon.

His gun model is pretty good.
Shouldnt criticise until you have produced something better OR limit to constructive criticism.
If Crytek were to look at any of the stuff on this forum, they would think that it is shit compared to what they produce, so dont expect perfection from people all the time.
Westfall, please link me to something you have produced, i wanna see how talented you are.
Im sure i saw FR33T4RD producing some crap modelling of a table or something a while ago which was far worse than his gun. (why am i picking on FR33T4RD? well he seems the weakest and the biggest wannabe of you all =))
If you were more constructive
@military comments: you cant really criticise until you are in the military lol...and most of you (if any) arnt.
Please reply to this, i wanna laugh at your retarded attempts to salvage your e-egos =)

I <3 how jaded you have all become because Versus has died and you are all realising you have wasted so much time on it =).

My spelling: i know you picked up on this a while ago but 3 points: 1) Does it really matter, its a forum, 2) its pathetic you care so much about spelling when most of the time you are posting rubbish, 3) please dont pretend to be intellects when the majority of you are thick as shit... btw anybody can appear to be clever on the internet, all you need to do is google stuff. Perhaps when you reflect on your grades etc, you will get a better picture of how retarded you are.

our imaginations are running wild

haha
ur so needy, you wanna be part of the club of losers who migrated from SCLamers to here FR33T4RD  :-*

pathetic kids...grow up

Question: is the pretence of academia all you poor souls have?

Freetard you are the biggest loser in SCCT =). Spekkio doesnt care for you. You idolise him. Pity u sucked so much at SCCT to say you became so devoted to it.
Dont bother replying to this FREETARD i dont wanna read ur stupidity. Also dont bother trying to prove your 'life' because 1) you dont have one or 2) you will lie or 3) you will lie and believe your lies.
SCCT is dead, leave it that way. Play COD4 or Crysis Wars or something.
Btw i do like what the admin etc have done here...just a pity so many morons like ion and spekkio and agentx and others. Grown up kiddies =). I shant read anything posted after this, so unless your trying to save your internet egos (and yes you do care enough to do that), then please just dont bother.

OK spekkio now read what you just wrote....think about it...and consider whether any person with a life would write that sort of thing...what would your parents think if they read this....silly child.

Wow this forum has got so low now.
So many sad fuckers.
Glad i stopped sc ages ago.
If this is were PS is going, stop now and save yourselves some embarrassment.
Fucking losers the lot of you (just take a look in a mirror, you will see what i mean =)).

i play sc at 1600x1200 at 30fps (60fps if unlocked).
@Freeman: you said earlier "i dont use AA". Whether this is true or not idrc. What matters though, is that AA was available and still is, and some people are not so noble as you Freeman, to remove it.

@Lennard: Ok, well as far as i know, EAX does not work with Vista because vista has replaced it with OpenGL/AL or w.e and as such you need a converter to make an EAX game work in vista. Ok so the real issue is not EAX but the bad balance EAX creates regarding extended sound zones etc.

@Freeman: "With a playerbase this small (judging by CT) IP bans are retarded, soon enough everybody will get banned from all the servers." Well, hopefully if a MAC ban (IP is useless, because you can change IP easily) is built into PS, then morons in servers can have their account banned say 4 times in a certain period and then have their machine address banned for a week from the hosts server. This only prevents the moron from playing in 1 server for a week AND if he wants to be a moron, then he should be banned.

@Freeman: "Not everybody wants to play seriously all the time." You were one of the most serious players i have ever played, getting angry so fast at things.

@Freeman: "Why are you constantly trying to...put others down on the forum?". Lol? havent posted in months and common grow up =) dont be so sensitive.

but i have a video Freeman of you saying "lmao there is a green outline around you when you are in camo" -.- was orph i think in bit to laundry -.- about a year ago, when AA was made available on SCLamers

Point remains though sound zones gotta be sorted in PS and there should be no "lets press that EAX cheat button in options", sound should be the same for everyone.

Any comments on FPS limited to something higher, like 50fps? To make the game fairer though frvge2, it doesnt matter that you have a super computer, most dont, so you need to arrange PS, so that everyone can get to a smoother rate of fps, say 40 or 50 or something and then you dont have people with 100fps hosting and having a huge advantage over someone with 30fps in their server. Also, whilst the fps is unlimited, there is nothing to say people will host and reduce the resolution e.g. 640x480 and have say 800fps and have a massive advantage over other players...Personally i think PS should be designed to play at 50fps at 1600x1200.1050 resolution.

Additionally:
i was thinking about banning people in PS. Would it be possible that when you ban a player 4 times he would have his machine address banned from your server say for a week automatically?
e.g. a moron joins your server, you kick and then he rejoins like 3 more times and you kick him. After this could his MAC address be banned for say a week automatically? Clearly you cant have players having access to MAC bans directly, or noone would be able to join anything. However, if it is a 3rd party which automatically bans for just a week or something...could help sort out morons (like agentx and his sit your server for 30min without moving).

As an off-PS-topic matter:
I was wondering, does anybody think that proliferating the wallhack in SCCT will balance out the EAX players?
I think wallhack balances EAX:
> EAX means you can hear right across the map and get a very good idea of where the spy is.
> Wallhack has less range, but you know exactly where the spy is (it only goes through 1 wall)
> EAX means it is nearly impossible to sneak up on a merc over any distance
> Wallhack still allows you to sneak up on a merc from behind at a speed

In a map like Steel, i think wallhack balances out EAX whores. I shall try running wallhack for a bit against some teams and see how it works out and if it is ok in CT i will make it available to more players if they want it. There is also a merc hud for spys lol in SCCT now, but this creates too much unbalance vs EAX, so i shall not be providing this to anyone
Some Comments pls

@Leonnard: True i dont know much about how EAX works, which is why i tested it in game... however it works, the effects in SCCT are as i have detailed above. As such in PS anything (i.e. OPENGL) which creates the cheating effect EAX has in SCCT, or anything which destroys the stealth elements of PS through sound or anything else, should be swiftly removed

Oh also, EAX is not supported in VISTA and an EAX to OpenGL converter is not available for all soundcards (and the ones that are distort the sound anyway)...at least with OpenGl being used in PS, this should not be a problem.

Thanks

good, but iv posted again to make myself clearer

Ok if CT cannot be modded, then just dont include EAX in PS, get rid of the green outline upon AA (AA should not even have been applied by anyone to Versus...that green outline IS CHEATING lol), limit FPS to say 50 (as i mentioned earlier, because there is no limit on FPS in SCCT, it is like cheating, because it is giving you an unfair advantage if your FPS do not match up with the hosts FPS, and this is almost impossible without some kind of limit).
I have a feeling you might be wrong about EAX, not because i know more, just because i have tested with 2 computers the effects of soundcard sound and soundcard sound with EAX enabled. My findings are completely accurate and im sure most players will tell you this.
I dont have a clue how EAX works, but have a feeling that when UBI introduced it into CT, it was either a new version or they introduced it as an after thought i.e. not properly tested (and anyway, UBI will not have tested SCCT how players nowadays play CT)...maybe they just included EAX as part of teh singleplayer properly, but did not thoroughly test it in versus?
Whether i am right or wrong about how EAX works or UBI's use of it in CT, the coherence of my first argument remains, that EAX spoils the whole purpose of CT being a stealth game and SHOULD NOT be part of PS if it results in such invasion upon stealth gameplay as has now occurred in CT.
P>S no comments on 'well you should learn to play stealthier', because as my first post suggests, even slow creeping diagonally is heard if soundcardEAX is enabled. I also doubt whether ubi when testing versus though that players would have to keep jumping and pressing crouch to advance at any speed unheard across the map...EAX was a nice idea by ubi, but through lack of testing has spoilt the whole purpose of SCCT
[NOTE]: i also have a feeling that EAX is improperly implemented in the Map Pack maps, as it seems any sound across the whole of these maps can be heard (although i am continuing to test this). EAX seems to be far more devastating to stealth gameplay in these maps than to the original maps

EAX = hardware > skills