freeze it, baby

Started by Gawain, April 23, 2008, 10:04:49 PM

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Farley4Fan

Hmmm...

Merc A: *Keyboard gets unplugged or he sets his status to AFK*
Merc B: *Chooses continue game when player Merc A resumes*
Spy A: *Chooses DM*
Spy B: *Chooses DM*

Now, Merc A is gone, Merc B is frozen, Spies A + B have no one to play against.  Eh, there's so many situations like this that could ruin the entire room from this idea.

I'm sick of discussing such a stupid suggestion like this.  And yes, it is stupid.  No one will ever vote yes unless it's friendly server where everybody knows eachothter.  If it is one of those servers, who the hell cares who wins/loses?  If it's a good game then just make sure no one leaves the match and you can have that same competition NEXT ROUND, or the next round, or the next one, or EVEN THE NEXT ONE...  And if it's a good game I'm sure no one will leave it to take a quick piss.  This is ridiculous, and I hope doesn't even get the slightest smidgen of interest from the devs.

Gawain

papa, i'm sick of you bs, too. i'm particularily sick of a person spamming 20 pages about moving dead bodies or some other toal bullshit topic and yet flaming about every reasonable post from my side (maybe just because i bashed your noob-nonsense before??). a pause-option and a replay system are very basic functions any competitive game needs. instead of mocking about totally unrealistic situations that can never come up because it's a fricking vote, you should rather take the time to learn this game or at least to learn how other really competitive games work.

Farley4Fan

Quote from: Rambo on April 30, 2008, 12:32:36 AM
papa, i'm sick of you bs, too. i'm particularily sick of a person spamming 20 pages about moving dead bodies or some other toal bullshit topic and yet flaming about every reasonable post from my side (maybe just because i bashed your noob-nonsense before??). a pause-option and a replay system are very basic functions any competitive game needs. instead of mocking about totally unrealistic situations that can never come up because it's a fricking vote, you should rather take the time to learn this game or at least to learn how other really competitive games work.

You have NOT posted one good reason why this should be in the game.  Not one.  Don't say:  "Well go back and read the thread" because I have, I've read every one of your garbage posts.  This will in no way enhance gameplay, or save it for that matter, because no one will ever vote yes.  And if all 4 ever do it will only be in friendly servers, and who cares who wins in a friendly server?  I've explained this to you countless times yet you come back with the same "Oh well don't vote yes", or "it's competitive", or "No, you post nonsense."  It's like you are programmed to do this, wtf?  I hope this turns into a flamewar so it gets locked because it's a fucking retarded idea to put into any game, with few exceptions. 

If you aren't ready, don't ready up.  If something important comes up mid-game, well too bad-video games become unimportant when something important in real life comes up.  If it's a really competitive game and you have to take a piss, hold it.  Anybody who has control over their bodies can hold their piss for 10 minutes.  There is absolutely no reason why we should be able to pause the game, ever.  It's online, it's live, it's happening whether you like it or not.  You appreciate the beauty of it Gawain?  Well, you can appreciate the beauty of the next round if someone going AFK for 20 secs is too bad and ruins the match completely - which it doesn't.  All 4 people aren't going to up and quit, so you can play with them again.  If the game really was THAT competitive, to the point you'd ignore your dying mother to beat the other team - uhh, why the fuck would you take a piss then?

None of your points put even a spark of life into this idea, and I suggest stopping this now before it turns into another 20 page bullshit post-athon.

Ion.67

Totally agree with papa, even though I didn't read the whole thing. This idea is just dumb.

Westfall

This thread is still going? What's that Lassie? Its getting worse?

Cockfan's idea is even worse than the original. Papa is right (yes, I give it to him). There have been no sound points the entire thread as to why this idea is....well....good. Theres nothing concrete. You can't judge another players reactions in game. I can already guarantee that if this is implemented...and anyone suddenly needs to pause to go tinkle mid game...d/c and blacklist. Obviously not worth the time. As it spreads more and more you will see that the community diminishes drastically because how many times do you have people come in your server going "GO GO GO GO 60 60 60 60" You bet they're going to want to pause. People don't have the patience and/or time to deal with such bullshit as a mid round pause.

ROUNDS CAN ALWAYS RESTART. Several rounds restart right away because of equipment problems. If its midway through, tough fuckin luck. No one said "hey, make sure you go afk midway through this game that you've CHOSEN to play in THIS server". I also don't want to go into a server where the host all of a sudden is like "YOU CHEAT IF YOU DON'T PAUSE CUZ I HAVE TO LET MY DOG OUT". Tough.....Fuckin....Luck.....

This thread needs to die....fast

Succubus Dryad Of The Undying Comet

Pause = Fail, but IF something, I'd like to see a system with the 'play till he comes back' attitude.

Westfall

Play until he comes back relates to pause which you already said equals fail. Therefore, playing til some1 returns TOO equals fail.

Hyrage

Quote from: Papa Skull on April 30, 2008, 01:51:54 AM
Quote from: Rambo on April 30, 2008, 12:32:36 AM
papa, i'm sick of you bs, too. i'm particularily sick of a person spamming 20 pages about moving dead bodies or some other toal bullshit topic and yet flaming about every reasonable post from my side (maybe just because i bashed your noob-nonsense before??). a pause-option and a replay system are very basic functions any competitive game needs. instead of mocking about totally unrealistic situations that can never come up because it's a fricking vote, you should rather take the time to learn this game or at least to learn how other really competitive games work.

You have NOT posted one good reason why this should be in the game.  Not one.  Don't say:  "Well go back and read the thread" because I have, I've read every one of your garbage posts.  This will in no way enhance gameplay, or save it for that matter, because no one will ever vote yes.  And if all 4 ever do it will only be in friendly servers, and who cares who wins in a friendly server?  I've explained this to you countless times yet you come back with the same "Oh well don't vote yes", or "it's competitive", or "No, you post nonsense."  It's like you are programmed to do this, wtf?  I hope this turns into a flamewar so it gets locked because it's a fucking retarded idea to put into any game, with few exceptions. 

If you aren't ready, don't ready up.  If something important comes up mid-game, well too bad-video games become unimportant when something important in real life comes up.  If it's a really competitive game and you have to take a piss, hold it.  Anybody who has control over their bodies can hold their piss for 10 minutes.  There is absolutely no reason why we should be able to pause the game, ever.  It's online, it's live, it's happening whether you like it or not.  You appreciate the beauty of it Gawain?  Well, you can appreciate the beauty of the next round if someone going AFK for 20 secs is too bad and ruins the match completely - which it doesn't.  All 4 people aren't going to up and quit, so you can play with them again.  If the game really was THAT competitive, to the point you'd ignore your dying mother to beat the other team - uhh, why the fuck would you take a piss then?

None of your points put even a spark of life into this idea, and I suggest stopping this now before it turns into another 20 page bullshit post-athon.
Well, I found one awesome reason to get a pause... Damn! Everyone on GTA 4 move, move, move!!!

Bit will PS will come out, it will be useless to have a freeze game fonction.
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Farley4Fan

It's funny how history repeats itself, Agent with another jibberish filled post.   :D

AgentX_003

Quote from: Papa Skull on April 30, 2008, 07:32:57 AM
It's funny how history repeats itself, Agent with another jibberish filled post.   :D

>:(


-Thanks Murdy for da Sig <3  xD

Farley4Fan

HAHAAAAHAAA!! I don't know why, but that was just too funny.  Perfect smiley for the situation lmao haha

You know I'm just playin agent.  ;D :D :D :D

But seriously, what did that post even mean?

LennardF1989

#161
Agent and Papa Skull, stop the frikkin' fight on the public forums and take it to the PM, SC Lamers or e-mail. I'm sick and tired of you two hijacking threads because of this vendetta you guys seem to have. Grow up FFS, should every thread you two participate in get locked?

Now ON-TOPIC, and don't reply to this message, back to the topic before it got hijacked. Gees. Or else, let it die in peace and let me (and other devs) see what should happen.

* You can reply to the bold part if needed.

Gawain

#162
yeah agent, nice timing roflcopter, like a drunken war-vet making a pointless remark just when you least expect it XD
but can't u guys use a messenger or private message for your personal talks?
@westfall: there ARE players that want a pause function, eg kurbutti and me, and im sure that there are more out there. you also know me good enough that you should know that i'm not the type to press "ready" when i'm not, or to try to abuse such a function, and neither is kurbutti. you can't simply deny that we have a point: it's better to freeze a good game for a minute than having to restart the whole round. yes, this would only be used with friends. but in this little community every1 knows every1 anyways (at least if they're not faking), so this should be np. the fact that a pause and replay function are in pretty much every competitive game nowadays should also make you guys reconsider your view.

LennardF1989

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Quote from: Rambo on April 30, 2008, 11:27:05 AM
yeah agent, nice timing roflcopter, like a drunken war-vet making a pointless remark just when you least expect it XD
@westfall: there ARE players that want a pause function, eg kurbutti and me, and im sure that there are more out there. you also know me good enough that you should know that i'm not the type to press "ready" when i'm not, or to try to abuse such a function, and neither is kurbutti. you can't simply deny that we have a point: it's better to freeze a good game for a minute than having to restart the whole round. yes, this would only be used with friends. but in this little community every1 knows every1 anyways (at least if they're not faking), so this should be np. the fact that a pause and replay function are in pretty much every competitive game nowadays should also make you guys reconsider your view.
Could you give some titles of games who have this functionality?

Actually, I know some myself. The Battlefield series, server admin can pause the game.

EDIT: I'm all against a freeze function, since I just explained Rambo it's frikkin' annoying to stare to a frozen screen for as long as the guy is away. Server admins did that to me in awesome battlefield games, and I just left them because I couldn't stand the waiting anymore. I'd rather have the "save state" feature, if any at all.

Gawain

mainly in rts games like starcraft, but also in fps like the bf series.
lennard is right that it got abused a lot by stupid kiddy admins, but the admin's possibilities were really awesome for organizing clanwars with so many players.
i'd also rather have the backup function than a simple freeze.