Cloak improvements.

Blank Man · May 16, 2008, 12:43:36 AM

It is rare that a player in CT can successfully use cloak to sneak by or neck a merc. I think this is because of how enormously salient the cloak is. In order to improve it, it needs some more strengths. Making the cloak more transparent would increase its strength, giving the highly equiped merc a challenge against cloak users.

Something else about cloak: Cloak should be accessible in the rain too, but the droplets hitting the suit should impact its visibilty, so that spies need to consider their setting for a tactical use of cloak.

That would be sweet.

Farley4Fan · May 16, 2008, 01:11:29 AM

I agree, I like the rain idea too. I don't have much experience with the cloak on PC, but on xbox (before the 360 came out ofc), the cloak still wasn't a great gadget. I'd love it to be a bit less visible and work in the rain to some extent. Also, EAX won't pick up the sound of the cloak activating, giving it even more of a boost.

frvge · May 16, 2008, 02:36:12 AM

Camo will be better of course.
Interesting idea on the rain drops affecting it.

.leelu12. · May 16, 2008, 03:46:38 AM

seems they only did camo like it is atm for the start of orphan, cos would be impossible to see a spy if they could camo up the slope to the orphanage ???

Gawain · May 16, 2008, 01:26:24 PM

the effect of rain on camo is really a minor thing, but i agree that not allowing camo in rain at all is kinda over the top.

LennardF1989 · May 16, 2008, 02:59:45 PM

I also think you should be able to grab a merc while in cloak (so you dont have to disable first before doing so). Ofcourse, the effect while start fading away instantly at the moment you grab the merc.

Kurbutti · May 16, 2008, 03:29:48 PM

Well I'd like if you would be able to jump and fall down a bit without compromising your cloak. (Originally presented by InvisibleMan and I think it got way too little attention so I say we bring that one up)

.leelu12. · May 16, 2008, 04:26:18 PM

Quote from: LennardF1989 on May 16, 2008, 02:59:45 PM
I also think you should be able to grab a merc while in cloak (so you dont have to disable first before doing so). Ofcourse, the effect while start fading away instantly at the moment you grab the merc.

Not totally sure, but if you have slow walk on when you grab, camo stays on ???

Kurbutti · May 16, 2008, 04:37:50 PM

Argh, remove that demon from your sig, leelu.

Farley4Fan · May 16, 2008, 05:09:54 PM

Your avatar resembles much more of a demon, kurbutti. Anyone can have whatever they like in their sigs.

.leelu12. · May 16, 2008, 06:14:37 PM

Quote from: Kurbutti on May 16, 2008, 04:37:50 PM
Argh, remove that demon from your sig, leelu.

0_o what demon? its flowers and hearts. . .

Cyntrox · May 16, 2008, 08:30:40 PM

Quote from: .leelu12. on May 16, 2008, 06:14:37 PM
Quote from: Kurbutti on May 16, 2008, 04:37:50 PM
Argh, remove that demon from your sig, leelu.

0_o what demon? its flowers and hearts. . .

I'm pretty sure he was being ironic :P

And V pwns everyone. Even Sam Fisher.

Zedblade · May 16, 2008, 08:46:43 PM

Camo in CT was fine. If used correctly, you could easily sneak all and even grab mercs. I did it all the time against good teams and good players. It just takes skill and experience. The only thing that needs to be fixed, is the only thing that made Camo usleess to certain players and thats the EAX bug. Doesn't matter where I was, certain players could hear me go in and out of camo and thus would just have to switch to EMF. This completely destroyed any reason to use camo. Otherwise Camo in CT was fine, but could benefit from a few small changes.

Hyrage · May 16, 2008, 09:13:13 PM

Quote from: Zedblade on May 16, 2008, 08:46:43 PM
Camo in CT was fine. If used correctly, you could easily sneak all and even grab mercs. I did it all the time against good teams and good players. It just takes skill and experience. The only thing that needs to be fixed, is the only thing that made Camo usleess to certain players and thats the EAX bug. Doesn't matter where I was, certain players could hear me go in and out of camo and thus would just have to switch to EMF. This completely destroyed any reason to use camo. Otherwise Camo in CT was fine, but could benefit from a few small changes.

Yeah I totally agree, the camo was great the way it was in CT and was very useful, but no camo should be perfect anyway - OP

Daybreak · May 16, 2008, 11:41:12 PM

Argee with Zed.
However i'm a big fan of being completely invisible when not moving. But having a ripple effect while moving.
Being completely invisible when not moving just helps me hide in the middle of a room. I like doing that in the dark as I get a crazy high when mercs run into me and continue on their way.

Cloak improvements.

Gawain