Cloak improvements.

[InvisibleMan999]

papa, just because there is a green outline on the xbox360 and the eax superhearing bullshit in the pc version doesn't mean camo needs a big boost. both bugs/inbalances will be gone in ps and you speaking about good players is kinda ridiculous anyways...

Well I don't think anyone is saying it requires a huge boost. The changes I've proposed actualyl don't make camo that much better. They just allow it to work in a few extra spots. Like dropping out of a vent or out in the rain.

[frvge]

Agent, try to use a bit less unnecessary negative words. :indiff: .

[Farley4Fan]

papa, just because there is a green outline on the xbox360 and the eax superhearing bullshit in the pc version doesn't mean camo needs a big boost. both bugs/inbalances will be gone in ps and you speaking about good players is kinda ridiculous anyways...

Uh, w/o EAX it recieves a big boost.  And that was my point.  It should be a big enough boost for it to be a much more useful gadget now.  Comprehend my words properly.

[MulleDK19]

Camo in CT was fine. If used correctly, you could easily sneak all and even grab mercs. I did it all the time against good teams and good players. It just takes skill and experience. The only thing that needs to be fixed, is the only thing that made Camo usleess to certain players and thats the EAX bug. Doesn't matter where I was, certain players could hear me go in and out of camo and thus would just have to switch to EMF. This completely destroyed any reason to use camo. Otherwise Camo in CT was fine, but could benefit from a few small changes.

Yep... When I found out how good it worked in combination with thermal vision, I was always hoping for mercs to use thermal all the time. Cause if you use slow speed and camo, and the merc has activated his thermal vision, you're almost 100% invisible to him...

[frvge]

motion tracking...

[Succubus Dryad Of The Undying Comet]

Yep... When I found out how good it worked in combination with thermal vision, I was always hoping for mercs to use thermal all the time. Cause if you use slow speed and camo, and the merc has activated his thermal vision, you're almost 100% invisible to him...

Where did you get merc's thermal?? WTF

[Farley4Fan]

Yep... When I found out how good it worked in combination with thermal vision, I was always hoping for mercs to use thermal all the time. Cause if you use slow speed and camo, and the merc has activated his thermal vision, you're almost 100% invisible to him...

Where did you get merc's thermal?? WTF

Answered in the post above yours.

[Succubus Dryad Of The Undying Comet]

aaaaaaah sry i didnt see it -.-

[InvisibleMan999]

Uh, w/o EAX it recieves a big boost.  And that was my point.  It should be a big enough boost for it to be a much more useful gadget now.  Comprehend my words properly.

Well, it's possible, but camo is still rather limited in the places you can use it and honestly, it's really easy to see on a high resolution display. It was nasty on xbox due to the low resolution, that made it much harder to see camo at long range. On PC I regularly can see camoed spies are relatively long distances. It really isn't that hard. Unless PS has some ambient "noise" or lack of clarity on your base visions, all you really need is a decent resolution and half decent lighting and camo just isn't that great.

Combined with the fact that you automatically decloak when coming out of a vent or jumping. It's just not as useful as it could be.

[I <3 U]

Camo is great if you can use it correctly. Take out the Camo eax "bug" and its perfect.

Suggestion: Make the camo bar go slower (last longer) when still or slow-crouch?

Discuss.

[Farley4Fan]

Interesting suggestion Freeman.  Like the camo on Crysis perhaps?  Where if you are stationary the energy drains much slower?  Hmm, I like it.  Seems perfectly balanced, unless I'm overlooking something, and it would be a nice boost.

[Blank Man]

This isn't Crysis, quit polluting my threads, noob. GTFO

[Westfall]

This isn't Crysis, quit polluting my threads, noob. GTFO

I'm pretty sure the majority realizes this isn't Crysis....however, the idea of camo energy draining faster/slower depending on the spy's motion has been discussed before and was an excellent idea.

So far the only one proving there "nubness" is you Blank.

[Farley4Fan]

This isn't Crysis, quit polluting my threads, noob. GTFO

Wow.  The only one polluting threads is in fact YOU.  The Crysis camo suit idea was an excellent suggestion and yet again you come up with no evidence whatsoever to prove your point.  Gtfo.

[Blank Man]

This isn't Crysis, quit polluting my threads, noob. GTFO

Wow.  The only one polluting threads is in fact YOU.  The Crysis camo suit idea was an excellent suggestion and yet again you come up with no evidence whatsoever to prove your point.  Gtfo.

Thanks for the hypocracy, but you had no proof of a host grab, yet you give me stupid shit like "prove it :O"
then you finish that off with something I said to you. You are just stupid. And the crysis camo suit idea only matches a game like crysis. and... since this is nothing like it. gtfo =]