Switching Firing Shoulders

Started by Farley4Fan, June 13, 2008, 02:35:37 AM

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Would you like to have the option to switch firing shoulders?

Yes
23 (71.9%)
No
5 (15.6%)
Maybe
2 (6.3%)
I have an 8Track player in my pants
2 (6.3%)

Total Members Voted: 30

Farley4Fan

Quote from: InvisibleMan999 on June 14, 2008, 10:16:19 PM
It'd definitely be a cool feature. In this game, limiting your exposure when taking a shot is very important. I can't think of how it would hurt gameplay. The only issue is how difficult it is to animate it.

It should be quite simple.  Just reversing the spy's position.  Maybe you wouldn't even animate the feet at all.  Just a swap for the side the gun is on.  But then again I don't really know.  Maybe our animator could give his/her two cents?

VaNilla

Don't see how it could be too hard, in Chaos Theory he just grabs under the gun and pushes it over to the left.

Lurch

How about, oh I don't know, possibly shooting poison mines/spy traps that are located behind a corner to the right? How come nobody mentioned that?

Farley4Fan

Didn't someone mention that?  If not, well yeah, it's another reason to include it.

Farley4Fan

So, if I disclude the "Maybe" and the "I have 8 track player in my pants" votes, that leaves it with 80% people who want this feature.  A 4:1 ratio of people who want it to people who don't want it.  Not to mention, some of the nay sayers of this when it first started would vote "Yes" now. 

Just something to think about devs... 

Ion.67

My point was your going to be seen either way, whether there is a tad less showing or not.

Farley4Fan

It's not a tad less showing.  It's like 90% less showing.  ;)

My point was if you are seen you don't have to expose your body and possibly be killed in the process of shocking a merc for a quick getaway.  Also, as just mentioned, would help aim around tight right corners to disable mines/traps...

I <3 U

Quote from: Ion.67 on June 14, 2008, 03:53:43 AM
I don't really see any situation which would require this. All you need to do with the shocker is to basically shoot the merc or shoot gadget/mine. Both of those make noise. Just be a little quicker and you won't take damage. If the merc knows you are around a corner, he will snipe you.

Thats the point, he MIGHT not know if ur behind a corner if only a tiny bit of ur body is exposed......

Why are people so against this idea, i mean it only adds to gameplay ffs. its just the same as it is atm but you can switch shoulders.

I can give u a situation aswell, took me all of 0.1 seconds to think of it.

"So you're in corridor on museum, the monolith end of it. There is a mine place on the box on the left hand side of mono corridor (as if you're walking to storage). You have no chaffs. There is a merc coming from mono, if he comes out of the door, you're fucked. Right now if you want to shoot that proxy you have to fully expose yourself to be able to hit it, switch shoulders for example and boom, you'll be less than half exposed, and the merc might not see you.

Succubus Dryad Of The Undying Comet

You have to expose yourself 100% either way, except if you're on the right hand part of the corridor, but then again you'd have to shoot, and the merc would come out. Isn't it better to just sneak there on camo and disable it?

I <3 U

No you wouldn't. Think about it. I mean if the mine was on the edge of the box.

Succubus Dryad Of The Undying Comet

You mean like


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Farley4Fan

It's not the greatest example, but the point is that in most cases you wouldn't have to expose your head to shoot the mine/trap/merc.

Gawain

the only real use i can see is the ability to shoot spytraps/poison mines easily on both sides, and this is a drastic balance change.

Farley4Fan

Lol wut?  It's not drastic at all.  In fact, it balances it even more by not allowing mercs to place mines and traps in places where spies can't possibly shoot w/o getting hit by it.  You nay sayers are wayyy overreacting and I still haven't heard one good reason why this would hurt gameplay or not be worth it.  This should have been a 2 page discussion at max.

Gawain

if you can bypass everything that easily the whole defense strategy of the mercs has to change...