DM , as a way to introduce new faces to PS.

[Farley4Fan]

If you are good at deathmatch then you can be good at some facets of story mode.  For example, killing mercs or spies for your partner. 

[Snakebit.]

I didn't say , the dev's shouldn't make any tutorial . In my opinion a simple tutorial explain core mechanics of the game should be included but the specifics should be learned in deathmatch mode , where newcomers can have a chance of having fun . If they try to play story from the start , they just gonna be butchered and gonna leave the game.

[Gawain]

they can have some superficial fun, but they don't really learn story mode. if you don't believe me, just  grab a dm kiddie and hf trying to play story with him.
there are and will be tons of noob servers in which newcomers won't be butchered, and maybe the vets could try to help the newcomers more by creating a training server once in a while (for that purpose it should be possible to activate voip to work between all players).
i think the biggest problem for newcomers is to grab the concept of objective-based gameplay (yes, it's about getting objectives and not about killing the mercs) and when to stay hidden and when to play aggressive. we should just implement some little video clips explaining this stuff in the tutorial and those players are fine for story mode. i also think the tutorial should be subdivided so that it can be quite comprehensive cause you can take a break and listen to the rest another time.

[VaNilla]

Best way is to do tutorials no doubt, ofcourse DM is definatly a good way of 'training' in some aspects of the game but I think it's not a good idea to assume people will find their way around DM only knowing the 'core mechanics'. The PT and CT tutorials were actually good enough for me, I found it very easy to grasp those, but I think my idea is a bit more interactive and is fun so who knows, worth a try IMO :P.

[InvisibleMan999]

I'd rather have some watered down story mode or something rather than DM. DM just teaches people the wrong things and doesn't help them get a feel for the game at all. It teaches spies a lot of bad habits.

First, the idea that you want to go for necks instead of objectives.
Second, that it's okay to just sit and lie in wait for mercs instead of going for objectives.

If anything, some kind of training mode would probably be better. Like a one man or two man time trials thing, where you hack as many objectives as you can in a given time. Setting off alarms or making any noise penalizes you.

I don't really find that DM brings in many new players. Most people try story, decide they don't like and switch to DM permanently. I don't often see people start with DM and switch to story. Since it was splinter cell, most people are getting it for the stealth aspect. If they wanted a plain old shoot'em up, they'd have bought halflife 2.

[frvge]

Interesting idea.

[Gawain]

i fully agree with invisible.

[Farley4Fan]

I brought up a training mode idea a while back.

Another idea I have would be pretty easy.  We (meaning the vets and the people who played story mode) could each have schedules for hosting tutorial matches.  What I mean by that is that we would all host on various maps and try to educate people on the mechanics of story mode and the specific maps.  It would be much more intimate than a long tutorial, a lot more fun, and if they have any questions they could actually have them answered by one of us.  We could each educate 3 newbs at a time.  They each join your team, and you show them around the map and tell them about objectives and such.  For the description we could say "Tutorial Match - Come Newcomers" and in the tutorial tell them to look for matches like that before they start actually playing competitive matches.  Sound good?

[Hyrage]

A good game do not need any Tutorial.
You can just learn the game by yourself (what should be intuitive) and you can simply have Loading Screens with Tips.

A Deathmatch Mode is a must have for any multiplayer game and is a key feature to attract much more players all around the world.

Drop the tutorial stuff... the dev team could just create a .PDF for that.

[Gawain]

hyrage = dm noob speaking

[AgentX_003]

i fully agree with invisible.

3rd, thank god that someone other then Me, rambo and Stone see the light 

[I <3 U]

Well all i'll say is, a DM game mode WILL attract more players.

[Snakebit.]

When i started to play pt demo ..... I played a lot of dm during demo... So basicly i learned how to play this game from deathmatch so don't say please that almost nobody makes the transition . A lot of 'vets' started by playing deathmatches and learning from them and a lot of vets still played deathmatches during pt . I think Sithduke and Bionic or Sith and Xan , i don't rememmber now , did quite a lot .

Vets started to hate deathmatch when ct came out . Deathmatch in ct is stupid and not balanced + all the noobs forgot what is teamswitch in ct ...

[Spekkio]

Snakebit, how does playing a game with an entirely different set of mechanics and rules (DM) allow one to learn and adapt to another one (story)?

Aside from that, I'm not necessarily opposed to "gmo moar gaem moads pls!," but this project is being worked on by a handful of people during their free time. I'd much rather see a more polished story mode than an extra DM mode.

[AgentX_003]

Snakebit, how does playing a game with an entirely different set of mechanics and rules (DM) allow one to learn and adapt to another one (story)?

Aside from that, I'm not necessarily opposed to "gmo moar gaem moads pls!," but this project is being worked on by a handful of people during their free time. I'd much rather see a more polished story mode than an extra DM mode.

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