i am an atheist

[Westfall]

None of you obviously even read my whole post.

Westfall.  Check out my last sentence.  You try to make a point that God doesn't answer my prayers and then you ignore my sentence that says that God probably doesn't answer prayers.  Wtf.

Then what's the point of you praying aside from your hopes that someone is listening?

I said what I think the importance of praying is in that one post that I said you didn't fully read, surprise surprise.  I think it's just that letting God know that you trust in Him, or Her, or whatever God really is.  Sometimes your prayers may be answered, most of the time, not.  But if your prayers were answered 100% of the time, or even half the time, the test of faith would not be a test at all.  If we all had obvious evidence then there would be no point for us to be here.

Its still not an answer to my question....surprise surprise. The only close thing is your babble about "test of faith". I asked what the point of praying was aside from your hopes of someone listening? I don't want the same answer again that "well, if god is listening then blah blah". I want to know why YOU pray. You don't pray to show trust in anything. That's not a very good way of being trustworthy, hiding your thoughts in your head.

Also, if we had obvious evidence, then there would be more incentive to be here. Seems like you're a big faith person Papa. Hope it works for you.

[Gawain]

just to heaten up the discussion: i have this theory that having a critical mind is reciprocally proportional to believing in bullshit like the concept of god...

[frvge]

Do you really had to call it 'bullshit'? ... kinda low debating skills.
Heating up an already flaming subject isnt really ... useful.

I'm mostly keeping aside, as by the wish of the community to have a fairly unmoderated Off-Topic-section.

[Westfall]

You might as well lock this one up too. I'm done with the hypocritical nonsense, and the topic starter is pretty much done here too. We don't need this topic anymore.

[Roberto1223]

:( my thread ?!?! noooooo!  :'(

[Snakebit.]

Come on its like 30 more posts and its gonna be the largest topic in the whole forum.

[Westfall]

HAHAHAHA....seems like its losing its flare though.

[Roberto1223]

sweeet!

is which thread has the record right now?

is it the "prone-crawling" thread by Qlemont?

[Snakebit.]

About the mercs rifle topic or something like that. Has the record of 340 posts this has 324 or 325 right now.

[Roberto1223]

i bet this one wins in word count though, theres really really looooonng posts xD.

[Farley4Fan]

None of you obviously even read my whole post.

Westfall.  Check out my last sentence.  You try to make a point that God doesn't answer my prayers and then you ignore my sentence that says that God probably doesn't answer prayers.  Wtf.

Then what's the point of you praying aside from your hopes that someone is listening?

I said what I think the importance of praying is in that one post that I said you didn't fully read, surprise surprise.  I think it's just that letting God know that you trust in Him, or Her, or whatever God really is.  Sometimes your prayers may be answered, most of the time, not.  But if your prayers were answered 100% of the time, or even half the time, the test of faith would not be a test at all.  If we all had obvious evidence then there would be no point for us to be here.

Its still not an answer to my question....surprise surprise. The only close thing is your babble about "test of faith". I asked what the point of praying was aside from your hopes of someone listening? I don't want the same answer again that "well, if god is listening then blah blah". I want to know why YOU pray. You don't pray to show trust in anything. That's not a very good way of being trustworthy, hiding your thoughts in your head.

Also, if we had obvious evidence, then there would be more incentive to be here. Seems like you're a big faith person Papa. Hope it works for you.

I told you why I pray.  I don't give a rat's ass about your approval for my reasons.  "You don't pray to show trust in anything."  Dude, who do you think you are?  "hiding your thoughts in your head."  How am I hiding my thoughts in my head by letting God know the thoughts in my head?  Ummm, makes 0 sense.

And the bolded part.  You're just flat out wrong on this one.  If we saw God in the sky and he yelled at us when we were wrong, then we wouldn't be here for anything.  All we'd do is stay inside and pray to God and worship him or we'd go to hell.  That's not what God wants.  He put us here to test our faith in him.  W/ cold hard undeniable evidence that God exists, ala giant eyeballs in the sky, we'd be petty ants with no reason to live and experience life.  God does not want us to be homebodies.  It's like cheating on a test.  If you have all the answers, what's the point of the test?

A man of faith?  I am to a certain extent.  It's better than being a man of numbers/spreadsheets - or in other words a piece of meat.  You could say I'm in the middle of the spectrum.

Meat------------------Me---------------Ignorant to any facts
Faith increases>>>>>>>>>

[Farley4Fan]

just to heaten up the discussion: i have this theory that having a critical mind is reciprocally proportional to believing in bullshit like the concept of god...

Even the concept of a God is bullshit?  How about the concept of the universe randomly creating itself, from stuff that shouldn't have existed yet, but somehow clumped itself together, then somehow exploded or just started to expand?

You can't know there isn't a God, and you can't know that there is.  No one really does.  Leave it to an atheist to tell everyone that he does know, somehow.

[Nosis]

you're all stupid.

[Snakebit.]

just to heaten up the discussion: i have this theory that having a critical mind is reciprocally proportional to believing in bullshit like the concept of god...

Even the concept of a God is bullshit?  How about the concept of the universe randomly creating itself, from stuff that shouldn't have existed yet, but somehow clumped itself together, then somehow exploded or just started to expand?

You can't know there isn't a God, and you can't know that there is.  No one really does.  Leave it to an atheist to tell everyone that he does know, somehow.

We just don't know the answer to that right now. But we will have it probably in a good 200-300 years. Then a religious person would say some other thing which wasn't discovered yet.

Its like oh look its raining and there is lightning. The god must be in a bad mood and he is also crying but we now know it is not like that.

What proves to you for atleast 80% percent that god exists tell me ? And lets look at everything as facts , percent wise , for example one might say that i prayed for rain and it started to rain but the percent of it is actually high during different times of the year and things like that.

[Westfall]

I will respond to you later this evening Papa. For clarification before I do, with reference to your "piece of meat statement...I hope that wasn't in reference to me.