EMF/CHAFF flaw/solution

[frvge]

You were hostile/talking bs in the normal PS section, so I removed only that part.

[Farley4Fan]

And blank wasn't?  Come on dude.  It's pretty obvious that he is the root of most problems.

[Blank Man]

obvious schmobvious

[Farley4Fan]

So the verdict on this idea is: We'll see through playtesting

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[Roberto1223]

i guess.. :S xD

[Cyntrox]

*im in favor of a more realistic game (not refering to a game where death comes with one bullet), but realistic in a way that the freakin game makes sense at least, realistic as in making it a game not for stupid kids.

Lol, it'd help your argument if your suggestion was actually realistic.

[Kubanator]

Lol, it'd help your argument if your suggestion was actually realistic.

How is it not? EMF vision detects magnetic fields created by wires, which are very weak. It would make sense that powerful magnet strips would create a cloud or at least a heavy distortion effect.

[Cyntrox]

How is it not? EMF vision detects magnetic fields created by wires, which are very weak. It would make sense that powerful magnet strips would create a cloud or at least a heavy distortion effect.

Yes, that would make sense. However, chaff is simply metal strips made to confuse radars, and are not magnetic at all. The idea of chaff disabling anything (like it does in CT) is unrealistic.

[Kubanator]

Yes, that would make sense. However, chaff is simply metal strips made to confuse radars, and are not magnetic at all. The idea of chaff disabling anything (like it does in CT) is unrealistic.

Your arguement is that the EMF cloud should not exist because it is not realistic. However, under the context that chaff is magnet it is realistic. Then you claim that chaff itself is unrealistic because RL chaff doesn't have magnetic properties.

Now, either you are saying we should take out chaff because it is unrealistic, or you have no argument, because chaff isn't based off of realism and therefore the EMF cloud effect can occur.

http://splintercell.wikia.com/wiki/Chaff_Grenade

[Cyntrox]

Your arguement is that the EMF cloud should not exist because it is not realistic. However, under the context that chaff is magnet it is realistic. Then you claim that chaff itself is unrealistic because RL chaff doesn't have magnetic properties.

Now, either you are saying we should take out chaff because it is unrealistic, or you have no argument, because chaff isn't based off of realism and therefore the EMF cloud effect can occur.

http://splintercell.wikia.com/wiki/Chaff_Grenade

My point is that chaff isn't based on realism, and thus saying that something should be implemented based on realism when the underlaying mechanism is unrealistic makes an invalid argument.

[Kubanator]

My point is that chaff isn't based on realism, and thus saying that something should be implemented based on realism when the underlaying mechanism is unrealistic makes an invalid argument.

The argument isn't to implement it for realism. The argument is that it would add another level of depth to the gameplay, allowing EMF to be countered in a more passive way, similar to smoke grenades countering motion tracker, and flash bangs countering normal vision.

[Spark Mandriller]

Spamming chaff doesn't seem too passive to me.

[Kubanator]

More passive then attacking mercs directly. And if you read the similes, you know what I mean.

[AgentX_003]

Your arguement is that the EMF cloud should not exist because it is not realistic. However, under the context that chaff is magnet it is realistic. Then you claim that chaff itself is unrealistic because RL chaff doesn't have magnetic properties.

Now, either you are saying we should take out chaff because it is unrealistic, or you have no argument, because chaff isn't based off of realism and therefore the EMF cloud effect can occur.

http://splintercell.wikia.com/wiki/Chaff_Grenade

My point is that chaff isn't based on realism, and thus saying that something should be implemented based on realism when the underlaying mechanism is unrealistic makes an invalid argument.

well i hate to break it to ya, chaff does exist but not in a hand held format, Fighter pilots use it to jam the enemies radar as well as flares to divert heat seeking missles :/

[Cyntrox]

The argument isn't to implement it for realism. The argument is that it would add another level of depth to the gameplay, allowing EMF to be countered in a more passive way, similar to smoke grenades countering motion tracker, and flash bangs countering normal vision.

Actually, one of his arguments is that it'd be more realistic, just see what I quoted in my first post:

*im in favor of a more realistic game (not refering to a game where death comes with one bullet), but realistic in a way that the freakin game makes sense at least, realistic as in making it a game not for stupid kids.

Your arguement is that the EMF cloud should not exist because it is not realistic. However, under the context that chaff is magnet it is realistic. Then you claim that chaff itself is unrealistic because RL chaff doesn't have magnetic properties.

Now, either you are saying we should take out chaff because it is unrealistic, or you have no argument, because chaff isn't based off of realism and therefore the EMF cloud effect can occur.

http://splintercell.wikia.com/wiki/Chaff_Grenade

My point is that chaff isn't based on realism, and thus saying that something should be implemented based on realism when the underlaying mechanism is unrealistic makes an invalid argument.

well i hate to break it to ya, chaff does exist but not in a hand held format, Fighter pilots use it to jam the enemies radar as well as flares to divert heat seeking missles :/

Duh, that's what I've been saying all along, however, that chaff is only simple strips of metal that has nothing magnetic or electric about them.