Poll about changes in gameplay

[Frelli]

INTRO: For thoes who dont know who I am:
I can say the same thing as spekkio did. Me and my mate ended up at a second place in the europe bracket. So I aswell know what im talking about.

Ok I just read thru all these pages. And wow. Some really .. hmm .. wierd statements. To begin with, I almost never use smoke. Only on missle. And none have yet mentioned the sticky cams? They are at least by the pros the most use, and from my point of view the most usefull gadget. If I had to chose only two gadgets, I would take cams and hbs. Thoes are the two I NEVER take out of my arsenal.

As for laser mines/traps/poison. They are weak already as they are. Ofcourse they should be placed in spots where it's hard for the spies to dissarm them. Otherwise they would be useless. I, myself, use chaff 9/10 times. But thats because I choose to play that way.

I consider myself as a quite stealthy player. But a lot depends on the map and also the partner im with. From my own experience I can also say that it's very hard to decide before a game if you are going to play very stealth or very aggro. Diffrent situations the happends in the match can change the whole game. That whats make the game so great.

[Gawain]

it's all about adjustment  ;)

If I had to chose only two gadgets, I would take cams and hbs. Thoes are the two I NEVER take out of my arsenal.

me2. definitely.

[Overstatement]

I look at this thread and count (skipping Spekkio's needlessly long post)
Smoke: 17 to 2
Chaff: 14 to 5
If anyone could find a more recent thread, that would be great.

[Spekkio]

i'd love to see some stealth (lol ironic: to see stealth). the only problem is, that im kinda out of training and i haven't played with my mate (nxr cromos) for some weeks...

I haven't teamed with valserp ever, and flash/snares/cams/hb isn't my normal loadout. Don't make excuses  :P.

As for mines, one of my favorite things is running around and tripping off like 4 proxies and losing 20% health. I can imagine the mercs cursing when that happens. Hence why I suggested that the trip radius be lowered in my other thread.

[Gawain]

affirmative.
btw, i'm not making excuses, i just need some time to get back in training and to get some teamplay with whomsoever. btw, this eq is quite normal (except snares instead of chaff). what's your ordinary eq?

[Spekkio]

I actually alter my equipment so often that I can't tell you a "normal" equipment loadout. It usually involves some combination of 1. Could be any grenade depending on the map, but in the order of frequency smoke >>>> chaff > flashbangs 2. Chaff or snares, camo on a select few maps 3. cams 4. HB/bullets, snares or camo on a select few maps. The item I take the least is camo.

When I play with someone like valserp who takes flash/snares/cams/hb, I will almost always take smoke/chaff/cams/bullets. The two loadouts tend to compliment each other. But the point of the game is to show that it's possible to win without smoke and chaff, so I'm not going to use them.

Oh, and another thing with mines:

An often overlooked tactic: don't place any mines until after the spy's initial or even second rush. Bonus is you get to see what routes they like. People get much more careless after they've been to places and not seen any mines there.

[Gawain]

But the point of the game is to show that it's possible to win without smoke and chaff, so I'm not going to use them.

It's possible to win without any eq. It's just much harder.
Not taking cams/smoke has the advantage that the gasmask is pretty useless for the merc (afaik every pro takes mask)

An often overlooked tactic: don't place any mines until after the spy's initial or even second rush. Bonus is you get to see what routes they like. People get much more careless after they've been to places and not seen any mines there.

i love the psychological aspects of the game ^^

[Spekkio]

It's possible to win without any eq. It's just much harder

Actually, there are two things that make flash > smoke:

1. If you're up against snipers, flash will take them out of snipe mode so you can run
2. Flashbangs tend to make mercs not use their mask, which allows you to quick-cam them more easily.

[Frelli]

Btw I forgot to say. I ALWAYS use camo on polar base. It's great for getting out of spawn ans disc drop. Also good for moving around on big areas.

[Spekkio]

lol scworld make your own post and stop editing mine.

[frvge]

Oops, thought I selected quote. Apparently it was the Modify. I'll undo it. Sorry.

[frvge]

It's possible to win without any eq. It's just much harder

Actually, there are two things that make flash > smoke:

1. If you're up against snipers, flash will take them out of snipe mode so you can run
2. Flashbangs tend to make mercs not use their mask, which allows you to quick-cam them more easily.

I'd like to add:
3. Most players will try to charge you. Even some pros.

These 3 points are my reason for carrying flash instead of smoke. I only use smoke on specific maps, like Missile and maybe Bank (dont remember).

There ya go :)

[Spekkio]

Anyway, when are we gonna get this game on?

[Overstatement]

Get your game on!

After playing a couple of rounds, I realized that I am no threat or challenge. So anytime.

[frvge]

I'll be online as I post this. Mehehe.