FIFA World Cup 2010

[Ion.67]

I love me a gamecast. That way I see the 10 or so highlights without the other 93 minutes of boringness

[Spekkio]

Westfall, I'm in CT about another year and a half

[Farley4Fan]

I didn't know Antarctica uses CT for its abbreviation.  Kind of weird.

I guess it's because antarCTica?

[theDuke]

The World Cup is just getting better and better, all four quarterfinals have just been lovely and entertaining.
The FIFA replays every dodgy call many many times from all kind of angles. Stations I watch don't have the rights to show MLB or NBA highlights either, stop crying about that.

It's fine if people don't like football, but reasons such as "when do I have time to get my beer and hot dog" are a typical redneck attitude, ignorant and plainly retarded. Last year I've been to a Partizan Belgrade vs. Red Star game with my Serbian friends and their american girlfriends who have been to Europe for the first time. After the first half one of them actually asked "What about the half time show??" Her boyfriend then told her the only thing to worry about is to get home safe after the game.
Football in Europe and South America is something the people from the States will never experience due to cultural differences. I also don't enjoy watching football just by myself that much, your MLS sucks tits and sitting in the dome with a bucket of chicken wings and a galleon of mountain dew dont get you in the mood either, not to mention drinking 3,2% beer where you piss more taste than you swallow.

For playing 90 minutes straight, the players tactical awareness is unbelievable. Defensive players don't get the time to jog back in still position for another 4 second play. A 50 yard sprint will have to do the job before you start attacking the other way again, remarkable.
Wrong calls are part of the game, but at the world cup I wish the ref would be allowed watch a replay some time, e.g England's second "goal", but the irony of another wembley goal plus Germany's stunning performances these days kinda make that call insignificant anyways.

People who put in their two cent about "soccer" all 4 years should rather shut up than say anything at all.

I think we can expect 4 more GREAT games from the WC and I am definitely looking forward to it.

[frvge]

Football vs soccer: http://www.dumpert.nl/mediabase/1017651/8e3a7a91/soccer_vs._football.html

[YaYz0r]

Okay, you fuckers are being really, really retarded.

The only thing retarded here is you and your foolish arguments against soccer.

Firstly, I witnessed this first hand. Ergo, I am the reference. And while I can understand you want to be skeptical of something someone says over the internet, I have no reason to lie about this. You can continue to disbelieve me, but that just makes you dumb.

I do not have a problem with you witnessing something you have heard or think you have heard from somewhere. The thing is that you in this case use what you have witnessed to reach a conclusion. And as I have already been trying to tell you, you should have used your common sense to figure out that you could not use what you witnessed to reach that conclusion, that soccer sucks "even more now".

Secondly, a radio station that makes its money by talking sports and replaying highlights isn't going to lie to its audience about FIFA blocking its ability to replay highlights. If they could play the replays, they absolutely would -- that's how they make their money.

Copyrights. Need I say more? And I am sure (I know) those exist in other sports industries too. And Duke's post made me even more sure of that.

Thirdly, this double speak about blocking it for botched calls or blocking it for rights is really irrelevant; while other sports organizations might block the live broadcast, no organization attempts to control HIGHLIGHTS in this manner.

What I said before. And no, it is not irrelevant. If FIFA had actually censored the replay of the botched call then that would be something to criticize them for.

So stfu and stop being dumb

How about you just stop being an asshat instead?

[Farley4Fan]

[Spekkio]

Yayzor, you were the one who brought up botched calls as a means for censoring. Until you did, that thought did not enter my mind.

My original argument was that any sports organization that is obnoxious enough to ban sports media from replaying highlights deserves to be shunned. I stand by that statement; FIFA is the ONLY sports organization that does this. FIFA has also gone out of their way to squash any kind of other internet media replays other than those it directly endorses. The organization has an air of arrogance from being so wildly popular (for some god awful reason) that, unlike most other sports, it actually attempts to limit its exposure to the public. Another example is that FIFA will not authorize networks to play encore games; if you're not off at 10 am to watch a soccer game, and you don't have dvd-r (oh wait, but that's illegal anyway cuz of copyright), then you're not watching the game.

(Btw, I like how you put the line "think you heard" in there, as if to still imply that there is doubt that I actually heard a broadcaster say that they were not allowed to replay World Cup highlights)

I don't know where botched calls came out of that on your end, but considering how long I've followed sports in my life I certainly think that it's not only reasonable, but also justified to have beef with an organization having FIFA's policy toward public exposure. And if their reason for blocking broadcast is from poor play calling by the referees, that only furthers my point that FIFA is a terrible organization. If FIFA thinks it's too "elite" to have me as a spectator because I actually have a job, then I say fuck them. It's not like the sport was interesting to watch in the first place, anyway. And if they think that the solution to poor play calling is to block fans from seeing the replays, then they're only hurting themselves.

[theDuke]

Spekkio,
the FIFA replays everything. I watch game highlights several times a day on various stations, 4 to be exactly.
Botched and dodgy calls are shown even more than goals numerous times.
It's not the FIFA's fault that the way football is broadcasted in the U.S is poorly and amateurish.

People from the States are no Football fans, they don't know more than the 5 top stars of this sport. They also hate to watch countries doing good at something where the U.S team sucks. Why would your stations bother buying the rights for something the majority doesn't care about.

I'm 100% positive that at least one ESPN channel shows highlights.

Also, the FIFA doesn't do things different than the UEFA. Now you have TWO sports organizations to hate if you really want to.

[Westfall]

Spekkio,
the FIFA replays everything. I watch game highlights several times a day on various stations, 4 to be exactly.
Botched and dodgy calls are shown even more than goals numerous times.
It's not the FIFA's fault that the way football is broadcasted in the U.S is poorly and amateurish.

People from the States are no Football fans, they don't know more than the 5 top stars of this sport. They also hate to watch countries doing good at something where the U.S team sucks. Why would your stations bother buying the rights for something the majority doesn't care about.

I'm 100% positive that at least one ESPN channel shows highlights.

Also, the FIFA doesn't do things different than the UEFA. Now you have TWO sports organizations to hate if you really want to.

You definitely don't speak for any Americans. How the hell do you know that I don't watch soccer or know people that play soccer? Always a good blind comment. This whole discussion comes down to FIFA needing to use instant replay on goal calls because the "best refs in the world" are a bunch of morons and have been botching calls the entire World Cup. FIFA does not allow replays in the stadium of controversial calls, which they also messed up on when they showed he goal the English got screwed out of. I have no other ideas of the censorship spekkio is talking about, but I'm sure they do censor it elsewhere in the world.

And if you say I don't like soccer because I don't call it futbol, you should check facts because soccer was a termed coined in England when they made the Association of Football to differ from the Rugby Football league in the 1860s. Also, I was rooting for the U.S. but don't get all butt-hurt when they lose like the other coutries. I'm always intrigued to see who can win the whole thing, but don't fall apart when my team loses, since soccer is the only good sport the international community has, but the States has a more diverse selections of ahletics that other countries try to rip from us.

Go be a true fan of not making such a retarded comment about sports and people not knowing what a sport is. You look like an idiot when you do that.

[theDuke]

Westfall if you watch football alot you should know better.


You are the ignorant here one for calling the refs at the WC a bunch of morons. It is one of the toughest job with unbelievable pressure. The game where they messed up was in the game Mexico vs. Argentina where the linesman saw in the replay on the video wall that it was an offside goal, thus the referee went to talk to him before he gave a goal for certain. Fact is though, if he would have NOT given the goal, they would have had to stop the game and play on a different day because the linesman used technological aid for a decision. He is not allowed to use that so THERE IS NO VIDEO REPLAY OF CONTROVERSIAL CALLS IN THE STADIUM BECAUSE THE REFEREES MUST NOT GET INFLUENCED IN THEIR DECISIONS. So is the tradition of "soccer". In England, people are still AGAINST video replay, and newspapers dont blame referees for the loss either. Their team was just playing bullshit.
That it was a botched call, we (sitting in front of the TV with chips and beer) often only see it in the fifth super slow-mo from a different angle. If there wouldnt be so many replays we wouldnt even know that it was a botched call. A referee has only milliseconds to decide, in real time from 20 yards away, and their view sometimes blocked by a player. The work they do is SUPERB, and in this world cup the linesman fucked up way more times than the referee.
Shut up bitching about poor work of referees when you have no fucking idea what u are talking about.
The FIFA will hardly change anything with the video replay issue because then you would have to change the rules of football. There might be some stuff to find out if the ball was over the goal line or not but that's just about it.

( I admit that when I said "People from the States", I was exaggerating. The term "majority" which I used later on is more precise. )

PS: As a football fan I advise you to watch some stuff from "referees at work" on youtube. Funny, highly entertaining and gives you and insight of their work. Everything was recorded at the EURO 08

[Spark Mandriller]

i thought soccer fans were meant to riot, not just go online and rage at people

why aren't you rioting?

[Farley4Fan]

Spekkio,
the FIFA replays everything. I watch game highlights several times a day on various stations, 4 to be exactly.
Botched and dodgy calls are shown even more than goals numerous times.
It's not the FIFA's fault that the way football is broadcasted in the U.S is poorly and amateurish.

People from the States are no Football fans, they don't know more than the 5 top stars of this sport. They also hate to watch countries doing good at something where the U.S team sucks. Why would your stations bother buying the rights for something the majority doesn't care about.

I'm 100% positive that at least one ESPN channel shows highlights.

Also, the FIFA doesn't do things different than the UEFA. Now you have TWO sports organizations to hate if you really want to.

I hate this "Americans don't watch because they are jealous" argument.

[Spekkio]

i thought soccer fans were meant to riot, not just go online and rage at people

why aren't you rioting?

Yea I totally forgot how gay the fans are because they can't ever deal with losing. As if being European wasn't enough...

[YaYz0r]

Spekkio, when will you stop being such an idiot? A sports channel etc. cannot show replays if they do not have the rights to show them. Period. Why is it so hard for you to understand that? You cannot criticize FIFA for this. And I simply do not believe that it is only the soccer industry that follow the laws of copyright.

Also, if you really do not care about watching recorded soccer matches then go ahead and record them on your DVD recorder. You do not do anything illegal as long as it is just for your own use. What would the point of having a DVD recorder be anyway if you could not do such?

And the reason why I brought the botched calls + censoring up was because that would be something to criticize FIFA for if that did actually exist.