Merc -finished!!

Started by goodkebab, May 11, 2007, 11:20:08 AM

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Gui Brazil


Gawain

the back of the helmet looks strange and ugly. why not just make a flat ball/ellipsoid? i don't like thick armor plates in general, i'd prefer ceramic scarfs or plain kevlar.

what i really do like is the face/helmet in front view. absolutely amazing work :o
i think it was a good decision to show some skin, it makes great contrast to the spy and makes the merc more human.

999th time just because it's important to me: flashlight on the helmet, laser on the gun  :P

Farley4Fan

Was there ever any question that mercs weren't human? ::)

I personally would like to see a balaclava on one of the two mercs and no balaclava on the other.  Wouldn't that be stupid to have to mercs that were twins or clone mercs?  Atleast make the mercs look different from one another somehow, like a different face.

I agree with Gawain that flashlight should definitely be on the helmet and laser should be on the gun.

Spekkio

#184
Looks fantastic so far!

Getting back to the flashlight thing:

Kebab, when you fire a shoulder-mounted gun (ie the ones in CT), your head is going to be at an angle less than 90 degrees to your front shoulder. Unless the light can magically rotate on its own, which I still think won't look as nice as a gun or head mounted light, the light is going to have its trajectory interrupted by the merc's arm or weapon itself. Even if it isn't interrupted, the light won't shine where you're looking without the aformentioned rotation feature. If you have a gun (or even a nerf gun or something shaped like a gun), go put it to your shoulder and look in the mirror. Obviously the back shoulder is out of the question since both your head and the weapon will be blocking it.

Also, when people refer to the merc looking around, they're talking about vertically. In those instances the head and arms move moreso than the torso.

Daybreak,

The problem with the gun is when the merc charges and lowers the gun, thus making the flashlight go haywire when you charge.

Overstatement,

They don't HAVE to put that "relax" animation into the game. Considering that the merc is always weary that a spy will pop out, why in the world would he ever relax?

Papa Skull,

I, too, would like to have different skins. However, considering the amount of work to just make one model, and the fact that no one's getting paid for this, I'm pretty sure Kebab is going to put that under the "nice to have" category.

Farley4Fan

It shouldn't be that hard.  Just keep the same exact body and make some changes to the face, I just wouldn't like to see two twin mercs, that would be really weird.

goodkebab

There is a ton of other work to do as well that I cant start on skins.  I Think I know where i can put the flashlight on the helmet without interupting the lines of the helmet.

Farley4Fan

Goodkebab, just a question.  Couldn't you just tweak that models face a little bit and save it as a different model?  Not asking for skins, but just a different looking model so you don't have two identical  twin mercs running around.

Looks saahweeet btw.

goodkebab

-we dont have mirrors in the game,  so you will never see yourself.

;)

frvge

Quote from: goodkebab on August 29, 2007, 12:28:41 PM
-we dont have mirrors in the game,  so you will never see yourself.

;)

Hmz, I think only the Mappers can say that?
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Gawain

different skins could be funny. once you know who is who, you can make use of the player's weak points more easily.
giving the spies two different skins is too much. usually you call your mate for help if you see two spies, but seeing two different ones in a short time would give you the necessary information, too.

goodkebab

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Quote from: frvge on August 29, 2007, 01:29:06 PM
Quote from: goodkebab on August 29, 2007, 12:28:41 PM
-we dont have mirrors in the game,  so you will never see yourself.

;)

Hmz, I think only the Mappers can say that?

and what map would that be?

Doing  quick texture changes for different kinds of Mercs/Spies is an easy enough change.  It is changing geometry that is a big deal.

Succubus Dryad Of The Undying Comet

I *think* there were mirrors on warehouse, deftech and orph.

Gawain


Gui Brazil

Mercs looking the same aren't a problem, really. You'll be so busy trying not to get a bunch of bullets up on your ass that you won't even notice.