Possible Sound Reticule for Spies? New heartbeat suggestions?

[Farley4Fan]

^ That's right.

[B1nArY_001]

Mask and Camo don't need to be in inherent gadgets. If you don't pick something you need, that's your own damn fault.

[Cyntrox]

I think the amount of gadgets in CT was good - you didn't get everything you needed, but it didn't feel like you had to choose which leg to cut of.

[Xris]

im still on the fence ... i know im going into realisim here, but shouldnt a professional spy have everything he needs?  then again he's only one person so i guess he can only carry so much gear and still be stealthy

OT: imagin a spy lugging a dufle bag lol  :D

[B1nArY_001]

Down the road we may find that some maps are better for certain gadget setups. Quite frankly until some serious testing is done it is completely asinine to agonize over "do we need more?", "do we need extra slots?", "do we need set items?", "do we..." etc....

[Farley4Fan]

We don't.  We don't need extra gadgets.  There is a reason there is a limit in CT.  The limit was fine.  Don't fix what isn't broken or don't change what doesn't need changin.

[Westfall]

Down the road we may find that some maps are better for certain gadget setups. Quite frankly until some serious testing is done it is completely asinine to agonize over "do we need more?", "do we need extra slots?", "do we need set items?", "do we..." etc....

No comment.

[Spekkio]

You guys can stop using the word need. We don't even need video games, and therefore PS, in the first place. They are luxuries used for fun and to kill time. Plenty of other things to do in their absence.

[Farley4Fan]

You know what me mean.  Don't try to twist our words and make it seem like we live off of video games.

[Gawain]

the only viable point against a 1+4 slot system you guys brought up was the fact that a little less teamplay is required...

[Westfall]

the only viable point against a 1+4 slot system you guys brought up was the fact that a little less teamplay is required...

That makes it obvious that you pay little attention to posts. More than 4 gadget slots is just too much...for each side. There won't be a balance at all.

You guys can stop using the word need. We don't even need video games, and therefore PS, in the first place. They are luxuries used for fun and to kill time. Plenty of other things to do in their absence.

Did you drop this line because you happened to see me post practically the exact same thing on SCLamers? Papa is right, you're just trying to manipulate there.

im still on the fence ... i know im going into realisim here, but shouldnt a professional spy have everything he needs?  then again he's only one person so i guess he can only carry so much gear and still be stealthy

OT: imagin a spy lugging a dufle bag lol  :D

lol. if you want to be realistic, then the spy would have to carry a duffle bag with his 5 slots of gear...otherwise hes going to be one loud sucker running around with nades clanging together...kind of like jingle bells.

Like how this thread was about sound reticule and somehow got back to the # of gadget slots....lol

[MacBryce]

I'm not too enthusiastic about five slots since I believe that four slots were more than enough. Nevertheless it's worth a playtest to see what it does to the game. As Lennard wrote...

Don't worry about rewriting the whole game, we want to prevent that as well by making a good structure at first.

After the game is as good as done, I would like to assemble a list with community ideas to improve the game and start to playtest them.

Furthermore, I don't think that realism is a good argument for any design decision. We're not doing a simulation here, so real life should be an inspiration but not nothing more.

[Farley4Fan]

You guys can stop using the word need. We don't even need video games, and therefore PS, in the first place. They are luxuries used for fun and to kill time. Plenty of other things to do in their absence.

Then why do you guys need a fifth slot?  That seems like a pretty desperate attempt at a comeback imo.

There would be less teamplay for sure.  Mercs would be one man wrecking balls with the gadgets we have now and 5 slots of them.  There is a point to sacrificing gadgets for other ones.  The point is that you don't get that gadget you sacrifice but you get the one you chose instead of it.  With 5 slots, meh, what the hell.  Why not just take most of the gadgets with you.  pfff, lame.

[Spekkio]

Then why do you guys need a fifth slot?  That seems like a pretty desperate attempt at a comeback imo.

I don't need any slots. Give me a rocket launcher instead of that castrated P90, and I'll omgwtfpwnz mercs all day long.

I made a pretty extensive post on why a fifth slot would be good 2 pages ago. I suggest you go re-read it and come up with a better counter than "but omfg why do you need it?"

[Westfall]

Then why do you guys need a fifth slot?  That seems like a pretty desperate attempt at a comeback imo.

I don't need any slots. Give me a rocket launcher instead of that castrated P90, and I'll omgwtfpwnz mercs all day long.

I made a pretty extensive post on why a fifth slot would be good 2 pages ago. I suggest you go re-read it and come up with a better counter than "but omfg why do you need it?"

Like previously stated....everything you stated is pretty much everything people already knew. This so called "extensive post," while large, didn't justify why a 5th slot is necessary. You says its balanced, but its going to be garbage if theres a 5th slot. YOU FUCKIN KNOW IT. The merc doesn't need a 5th slot. Because the merc has more important things to think about in his own life than needing a 5th slot. Same goes for the spy. 5 slots is....read this a little closer....grab those spectacles....5 slots is over-powering and furthest from balanced, aka too much

You can keep referring to your post as "extensive" and well-balanced....guess what....it's neither nor. When you find a good and practical use for a 5th slot, then start to jabber about it. Until that time, 5 slots SHOULD BE AN ALTERNATE.....like your mini games. kthxbai