A return on DA

Started by Test-Subject, February 05, 2008, 01:19:07 AM

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Farley4Fan

That's not strategy.  That's recon and search and destroy.  Strategy is a developed plan to help you succeed in your mission.  If you call picking a nice comfy spot to hack strategy, it's not man.  That takes so little thinking. 

InvisibleMan999

Quote from: Gawain on February 06, 2008, 12:43:48 AM
charging out of smoke is one of the most important actions against aggro...
Yeah you need to be able to charge out of smoke.

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i think the emf ghosting is too strong atm, but there must be some way to find out if there's a spy hiding in a ceiling. maybe the ghosting should become stronger the longer you stand still. unless we implement drones, that's the way i'd go for.

That's actually not a bad idea. I sorta like the standing still thing.

Test-Subject

Quote from: Papa Skull on February 06, 2008, 04:51:39 AM
That's not strategy.  That's recon and search and destroy.  Strategy is a developed plan to help you succeed in your mission.  If you call picking a nice comfy spot to hack strategy, it's not man.  That takes so little thinking. 

Read my last post carfully... strategy is moving the merc around so ur team8te is clear to hack.... it's coordinating ur strike on a hacking spy so you will cut off his exists.

I feel the tazer reduce the need of strategy since it's like a "undo" botton...

Farley4Fan

That never happened in DA.  3 mercs wouldn't lose the mission or lose an objective because 1 got a little distracted.

Westfall

Quote from: Papa Skull on February 07, 2008, 03:42:38 PM
That never happened in DA.  3 mercs wouldn't lose the mission or lose an objective because 1 got a little distracted.

oh yes they would.

Farley4Fan

I don't have a lot of experience in DA, maybe 80-100 hrs max.  In all my time playing this, my partners would just run off, grab flash bangs, try to hack, then run around like idiots.  I hardly ever saw strategy.  Mainly, it's the people you play with.  And people who play DA are mostly noobs and morons ( no offense to you guys that play it, I said most people, not everyone )...

Westfall

Quote from: Papa Skull on February 08, 2008, 12:30:34 AM
I don't have a lot of experience in DA, maybe 80-100 hrs max.  In all my time playing this, my partners would just run off, grab flash bangs, try to hack, then run around like idiots.  I hardly ever saw strategy.  Mainly, it's the people you play with.  And people who play DA are mostly noobs and morons ( no offense to you guys that play it, I said most people, not everyone )...

There was no strategy really. Run around trying to get necks and hack the objectives. The presence detector didnt allow for that much stealth.

Hyrage

So the more agressive gameplay from CT was better :P
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Quote from: HBW_Hyrage on February 08, 2008, 06:35:05 PM
So the more agressive gameplay from CT was better :P


No , all he is saying is it didnt force you to play one style , allowing you freedom to choose how you wanna play.


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Farley4Fan

Yeah, and basically DA took away all of your stealth abilities.  Maybe not all of them, but most of them.  And why do that in a stealth action game?  Makes no sense.

Westfall

Quote from: Papa Skull on February 09, 2008, 12:02:51 AM
Yeah, and basically DA took away all of your stealth abilities.  Maybe not all of them, but most of them.  And why do that in a stealth action game?  Makes no sense.

Which is just 1 more reason why DA sucked so much. 

InvisibleMan999

Quote from: Papa Skull on February 09, 2008, 12:02:51 AM
Yeah, and basically DA took away all of your stealth abilities.  Maybe not all of them, but most of them.  And why do that in a stealth action game?  Makes no sense.

The concept of stealth itself was differnet in DA. Stealth as far as DA was concerned was just finding some good hiding spot and then running away when the merc came near you. The merc knew you were there, he just didn't know exactly where you were, so you played a game of annoy the fuck out the merc while you run around and hack stuff.

Being a merc in DA just meant completely mastering the presence detector. That was it. You had to be able to go to a couple points in the room and triangulate the spy's position. If you could do that, you were basically unbeatable.


Farley4Fan

Yeah, agreed.  That's an extremely shallow style of stealth.

Hybrid Circle

I think a DA/CT hybrid would be awesome. Take out all the goods of both, and mix them up. I couldn't help remembering that a couple of times, i wished I could play DA on some of CT's maps, like the vault.

Westfall

Quote from: Hybrid Circle on March 03, 2008, 07:26:49 PM
I think a DA/CT hybrid would be awesome. Take out all the goods of both, and mix them up. I couldn't help remembering that a couple of times, i wished I could play DA on some of CT's maps, like the vault.

do u mean bank?