merc confusion gadget

[Gawain]

i hate the idea of pads because you can't use it in open areas as it would be ridiculous easy to find the pod. there's already the hiding game with snares, cams and - to some extend - with bullets.

with pods you could also create some holograms and then use them to play aggro, but with the projector-attachment one spy can't play aggro while creating the hologram.

[mentalmars]

if you set the pod that i can only move when the spy sets the target point a keeps focust on that.
when drop out of aim/focus the pod stands still and will dissapear after a few seconds.
the spy gets these few seconds to regain focus

[Westfall]

I like the idea of a emitter on the SS.
But as some of you allready said is that the holo-spy would move kinda weird.

a holopod that needs to pre-record seems like a lot of work.
the gadget needs to work instently.
you dont always have time to set things up,
i found my self a lot of times with SCCT you have to go with whe flow.

My suggestion is to combine both ideas.
Shoot a holo-pod with your SS like you would any granade.
Then use your aim to set a marker that the holo-spy needs to walk
(1 click for crouch, 2 clicks for run)
this way you have a easy setup
and the holo-pod can only move at the preset speeds.

your idea is already what the idea is. you record the hologram be4you even start playing.

[Succubus Dryad Of The Undying Comet]

So everyone just waits for you on the loading screen?? lame.

[Ion.67]

Tell me why it is bad, other than because this gadget has a major flaw?

I just thought of this. How the hell is this thing gonna be able to be shot? You are going to be watching a recording, that could be running a very far distance away from the source. How do you find the source?

Umm, idk, emf?  If you find out that it is fake then why the hell do you need to find out where it came from?  Other than the fact that there could be a spy in that area.  And if you are close to the hologram you are probably close to a spy anyways. 

Too shut the thing off. If I am a merc, I would shoot bullets, cams, and snares, so this hologram would not be any different.

Play option - Shouldn't be ridiculous because its going to have to cycle yea? It should be a small motion of the spy crouched, looking around....maybe taking a few steps (crouched), but not diving (if you know whats good or you)

You would need a special animation for each hallway.

[mentalmars]

your idea is already what the idea is. you record the hologram be4you even start playing.

you want to record before the game?
how do you want to change the holopod on the fly
every game asks for a different aprouch, or do you always play the same game over and over again?


launch the pod where you want
mark the spot where it should go to and it moves
(like a RTS game, click where the unit needs to go and it moves there)

[Farley4Fan]

There are plenty of suggestions that would work for the holopod.

- Record your own and have a list of 5 recordings to choose from when deployed.  You wouldn't need a unique recording for every hallway.  Instead you would just have to record so that the recordings work for most scenarios and places.

- Control it yourself.

- Have it mimic your own movements.

- Have the holopod go to a set point

I'm sure there are other suggestions that would work. 

[Westfall]

So everyone just waits for you on the loading screen?? lame.

No. You do this before you even log on, possibly as an option (in the tutorial section?). If you want to change it, you should have to go back to the main screen and have to preset it there.

your idea is already what the idea is. you record the hologram be4you even start playing.

you want to record before the game?
how do you want to change the holopod on the fly
every game asks for a different aprouch, or do you always play the same game over and over again?


launch the pod where you want
mark the spot where it should go to and it moves
(like a RTS game, click where the unit needs to go and it moves there)

It should have a scroll menu as you go to plant or shoot (menu open as gadget is scrolled over). Options in scroll menu: preset 1, preset 2, preset 3, paused motion crouch, pause motion stand (can be condensed).

[Spekkio]

Okay, seriously, this gadget is idiotic. If you think for a second that holograms are a good idea, you're a fucking moron. The fact that this has not only been discussed before on other threads, but also has now been given more than 4 pages of credence here makes me want to kill puppies. It's time to move on, and it's time to spend your time trying to think of something that actually could work to improve the game.

This public service announcement was brought to you by Spekkio, common sense, and the letter Q.

[Ion.67]

Controlling it would be useless, because you would have to be somewhere close to it.

If everything works out, and this somehow makes it, it could be overpowered in some situations. If you plan it just right, it could go around obstacles just like a normal spy would. But, other than that one time, it would be a waste of a gadget, that could be used for cams or bullets, which help with your overall objective.

Thanks Spekkio, that basically sums up what I have been trying to say all along.

[MR.Mic]

Okay, seriously, this gadget is idiotic. If you think for a second that holograms are a good idea, you're a fucking moron. The fact that this has not only been discussed before on other threads, but also has now been given more than 4 pages of credence here makes me want to kill puppies. It's time to move on, and it's time to spend your time trying to think of something that actually could work to improve the game.

This public service announcement was brought to you by Spekkio, common sense, and the letter Q.

QFE

For real...
People come up with some dumb gadget ideas on these forums.

This gadget is impractical as hell, and I can't picture anyone being fooled by it after the first week of play.

[Spekkio]

Seriously, I think that the mods should start trying to move discussions along in some way or another, and also keep threads on-topic. When there's a thread on a topic with 8 pages of crap and nowhere near a plausible plan to adapt it into the game, it's obviously a terrible idea and it's time to lock. Developers can't even read threads anymore because by the time they do, the discussion has veered WAYYYY off topic and they just don't have the time to wade through all the crap, so any good ideas from it go to waste anyway. If a developer clicks on a thread about a "merc confusion gadget," they shouldn't be reading an in-depth discussion on another topic.

[Ion.67]

I say screw new gadgets for now, and just think of ways to balance and improve the older ones.

[Spekkio]

That's already been discussed to death. I have nothing against new gadgets, but most of the ideas coming from these forums, quite frankly, suck.

Spy gadgets need to focus around:

-Evading mercs
-Stalling mercs
-Remaining hidden from mercs

Merc gadgets need to focus around:

-Finding spies
-Killing spies

The challenge is to find something that is useful and unique within that criteria, rather than posting every idea you think of just because you think it's da bomb.

[Westfall]

A holo pod doesn't seem that bad of an idea actually. It's quite smart and clever. It matched everything you wanted it to be/do in your checklist. It stalls mercs, and helps you to remain hidden from mercs. If you're so angry with the holo pod idea, then why not just be able to have a cam that projects a picture on the wall.

All you did was flame. Congrats for being that guy. Winner for least common sense award. Winner for cocky award.

Impractical. What happened to the whole "stay away from realism" and "this is based in the future" aspect.

Post some new shit if you're sick of it. Maybe a new merc confusion gadget if you're so sick of this one. I'm not stopping you. No need to act like a douche though.