Spy Stealth Weapon

Started by B1nArY_001, February 06, 2008, 11:15:33 PM

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Farley4Fan

Yeah.  Thanks Cyntrox.  Unlike PC we can't possibly go through lasers w/o making a sound or w/o alerting the mercs.  We have to go around.  I'm guessing that this little "glitch move" crouch roll crouch will be out of the game right?  Because that is just too retarded.  What's the point of having them there if you can just crouch roll crouch through them?  With my idea it is to keep people who aren't using the SG from passing them silently.  People who have the SG will be able to pass through them silently but that comes at a price, most of your aggro capabilities.

Quote from: Gawain on February 08, 2008, 02:23:48 PM
papa, plz stop spamming your monster-posts and learn the game. you don't have to disable any security going through blue room or getting the disc. you don't even know aqua which is an inbalanced noob map anyways  -.-
you speak about stealth but obviously have not the slightest idea of how to play stealth. i bet you don't know how to get past the cams in factory corridors...

Makes no sense.  I'm posting monster posts so people can understand my idea.  Learning the game has absolutely nothing to do with how I present my idea because it's brand new.  Obviously you don't have to disable the lasers to get through blue room or disc but if a merc sees that that's happened, he's going to know that the security malfunction is coming from that direction if the game was just starting.  Who said I didn't know that?  I don't know how to get past the cams on factory?  Your conclusion stuns me sir.

And to clear up any possible confusion, you can roll through lasers, but you have to stand up gain some speed and then roll through the lasers.  Basically, you can't do it without making any noise like on PC.

And can we assume that crouch roll crouch be out of the game?  Because honestly, it is a glitch and it ruins the point of static defenses.  My new idea won't.

neth

TBH i haven't seen anyone complaining about crouch-roll-crouch as far. It's a nice thing, especially when you want to go stealthy.


I know people complain about aqua but I still like to play this map. I realise it's imbalanced though.

and btw, where the hell is blue room ???


frvge

It's also known as 'Tropical Fish Room'.
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Gawain

maybe the forced crouching phase between two dives should be a little bit longer, but crouch-dive-crouch takes some time to master (can't change the direction and lenght while in the move) and should stay in the game.
papa, the decision to allow bypassing passive security lies upon the map designer, and that's a good thing.

Xris

when u hit the roll key while crouching u can go through lasers, its the crouch dive crouch that lets u do this and as you said this is a glitch, you should have to running to dive

Spekkio

QuoteAnd can we assume that crouch roll crouch be out of the game?  Because honestly, it is a glitch and it ruins the point of static defenses.  My new idea won't.
It's not a glitch, and it by no means ruins static defenses. This is why mercs have mines, spytraps, and camnet. If you think that a spy is going to be diving through lasers, then place a proxy on the other side or thread a spy trap through the middle. Now they have to disable one or the other which makes noise, thus allowing you to locate the spy more easily.

Succubus Dryad Of The Undying Comet

...Spytraps through lasers are VERY avoidable. Especially on aqua.

Spekkio

Quote from: Liqu1D_133 on February 08, 2008, 10:18:59 PM
...Spytraps through lasers are VERY avoidable. Especially on aqua.
Of course they're avoidable, but you can't get around them by just quick-diving through them.

Farley4Fan

Quote from: FusionSlayer on February 08, 2008, 05:58:24 PM
when u hit the roll key while crouching u can go through lasers, its the crouch dive crouch that lets u do this and as you said this is a glitch, you should have to running to dive

Not on xbox.  On PC you are correct.

Quote from: Gawain on February 08, 2008, 05:48:25 PM
maybe the forced crouching phase between two dives should be a little bit longer, but crouch-dive-crouch takes some time to master (can't change the direction and lenght while in the move) and should stay in the game.
papa, the decision to allow bypassing passive security lies upon the map designer, and that's a good thing.

I agree with you in some respect but with crouch roll crouch why bother even putting them there?  And btw guys, I'm positive that crouch roll crouch is a glitch.  It's not on xbox.  If it were a legit move it would be on both versions right?  Crouch dive crouch should stay, but changed up a little bit.  With crouch roll crouch you can silently bypass any set of lasers, so why have them there?  Atleast with the idea for stealth gun it prevent aggro players who take ss from silently getting through them and reward stealth players who take sg by letting them silently get through them.  With crouch roll crouch it doesn't matter what equip you take, lasers aren't going to slow you down or point you out.  And that's dumb.

Gawain

papa read my fucking posts. if the map maker doesn't want them to roll through lasers, he can easily adjust the hight of the laser etc...

Spekkio

QuoteAnd btw guys, I'm positive that crouch roll crouch is a glitch.  It's not on xbox.
That's a shitty reason to believe something is a glitch. Is HQ MT a glitch because it's not on XBox? How about insta-turning any direction you want via the mouse?

Farley4Fan

I read your posts dude.  It still doesn't say anything about why crouch roll crouch should be in this game.  With regular lasers at regular heights you can just go right through them.  So why have them there?  Why not just make all lasers at high levels then?  There is no point to having regular sized lasers with crouch roll crouch in the game.

And spekkio, you can insta turn on xbox.  It is a good reason because the maps on xbox are designed almost identical, if not completely identical, to maps on PC.  Lasers are at the same height etc...  Why wouldn't they give xbox players the ability to silently go through lasers?  They didn't GIVE spies the ability to crouch-roll-crouch on PC, they just accidentally let a glitch slide into the game that they never bothered to fix.

Succubus Dryad Of The Undying Comet


Farley4Fan

lol, but they gave them a gift.  Why would they give them that feature if they hate them lol

Succubus Dryad Of The Undying Comet

So xbox players can call pc gamers cheaters and lame :P
Anyhow, imo UBI's games are ok, but only on consoles, cause their porting dept. just sucks.