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Title: Semi-poll: What would you change if you'd be in PS in any position?
Post by: frvge on January 15, 2009, 09:06:50 PM
List stuff that can be done better, so we can improve.
Title: Re: Semi-poll: What would you change if you'd be in PS in any position?
Post by: Westfall on January 15, 2009, 10:30:36 PM
-Would be more strict throughout the forums
-Would try to set goal dates (tentative) and keep the people notified of the progress as to not lose any interest.
-Would have music playing on the forum (probably a bitch to stream, but would be cool I guess- more of a site thing)
-I would be more involved with the people talking on the forums...there are only a few of you that seem like you care about the people's input.


had more, but just had a brainfart....
Title: Re: Semi-poll: What would you change if you'd be in PS in any position?
Post by: frvge on January 15, 2009, 10:47:30 PM
Strictness... would you mean Ubi-strict? Or just allow less bullshitting in general?
Title: Re: Semi-poll: What would you change if you'd be in PS in any position?
Post by: Westfall on January 15, 2009, 10:55:49 PM
Less BS in the proper forum areas. Off topic can be rambunctious, but there's no need for it in the core.

You should definitely dispose of people who are bad apples...especially if its constantly occurring warning after warning.
Title: Re: Semi-poll: What would you change if you'd be in PS in any position?
Post by: Spekkio on January 15, 2009, 11:09:01 PM
Quote from: frvge on January 15, 2009, 10:47:30 PM
Strictness... would you mean Ubi-strict? Or just allow less bullshitting in general?
Ubi strict is dumb, but in the general forums you could do a better job at keeping the flow on-topic and locking stuff when it degrades to flamewars.

OT is OT so just let that be unmoderated.

I also think you should put an end to "ban XXXX" polls.
Title: Re: Semi-poll: What would you change if you'd be in PS in any position?
Post by: Tidenburg on January 15, 2009, 11:30:06 PM
- A bit more forum moderation.

- More text updates, we don't need to see somthing all the time. Lennards blog content was good enough but at the moment it's not built in at all so knowing it's been updated is kinda hard.
Title: Re: Semi-poll: What would you change if you'd be in PS in any position?
Post by: frvge on January 15, 2009, 11:43:05 PM
Ok, keep it coming.
Title: Re: Semi-poll: What would you change if you'd be in PS in any position?
Post by: Farley4Fan on January 16, 2009, 12:57:25 AM
What westfall said.  I won't drop names or anything, but let the banhammer be swift.
Title: Re: Semi-poll: What would you change if you'd be in PS in any position?
Post by: VaNilla on January 16, 2009, 01:24:43 AM
Do more polls about gameplay elements. If you're developing part of the game and think 'hold on, this wasn't done so well in CT', don't just keep the issue in the dev forum, make a poll in the Public Discussion section.

Only other thing I can really think of is to moderate the Public Discussion with more care, too many people are getting away with too much shit as far as I'm concerned. Maybe also, the devs need to take more attention of the threads in Public Discussion, because at the moment in SOME of the topics we make a useful conclusion yet we don't have any guarantees that any of the devs are going to implent our ideas or have even see them.
Title: Re: Semi-poll: What would you change if you'd be in PS in any position?
Post by: Roberto1223 on January 16, 2009, 05:48:46 AM
i would be fair.
i would ban people whom deserve to be banned.
Title: Re: Semi-poll: What would you change if you'd be in PS in any position?
Post by: frvge on January 16, 2009, 12:30:24 PM
We dont hold polls about gameplay, because there isn't any... yes, IMO it's overdue. However, gameplay it self consists of a few counters (time counting down, objectives counting down and number of hacked objectives counting up).
Title: Re: Semi-poll: What would you change if you'd be in PS in any position?
Post by: LennardF1989 on January 16, 2009, 01:08:47 PM
We can't say wheter or not we will implement something, there will be a whole team-discussion before anything gets an official word. For now, just the core, then all the new ideas, I learned a lot about managing a project last few months and doing a little bit of this and a little bit of that isn't going to work.

You can be assured I do READ the ideas and only drop in if I think it's going the wrong way (Ahum: Tazer-Flamethrower...).

I hope that answered your concerns.
Title: Re: Semi-poll: What would you change if you'd be in PS in any position?
Post by: Spekkio on January 16, 2009, 06:50:07 PM
Quote from: STON3COLDKILLA on January 16, 2009, 01:24:43 AM
Only other thing I can really think of is to moderate the Public Discussion with more care, too many people are getting away with too much shit as far as I'm concerned. Maybe also, the devs need to take more attention of the threads in Public Discussion, because at the moment in SOME of the topics we make a useful conclusion yet we don't have any guarantees that any of the devs are going to implent our ideas or have even see them.
That's because the devs don't read the public discussion. Look at the first 10 topics and you can easily see why.
Title: Re: Semi-poll: What would you change if you'd be in PS in any position?
Post by: I <3 U on January 16, 2009, 07:07:10 PM
- For the dev team to stop being so secretive about the project (in terms of what they're doing and whats being planned etc).

- Get rid of the tick tock crap and just say the news / updates as they come. Even if its just a small thing every week or two, it will reassure people the project is still moving forward.

- Kick the troublemaker.
Title: Re: Semi-poll: What would you change if you'd be in PS in any position?
Post by: Ion.67 on January 16, 2009, 11:53:18 PM
flamewars are fine, as long as they are based on a topic. Like religion.
Title: Re: Semi-poll: What would you change if you'd be in PS in any position?
Post by: Farley4Fan on January 17, 2009, 01:15:52 AM
Quote from: LennardF1989 on January 16, 2009, 01:08:47 PM
We can't say wheter or not we will implement something, there will be a whole team-discussion before anything gets an official word. For now, just the core, then all the new ideas, I learned a lot about managing a project last few months and doing a little bit of this and a little bit of that isn't going to work.

You can be assured I do READ the ideas and only drop in if I think it's going the wrong way (Ahum: Tazer-Flamethrower...).

I hope that answered your concerns.

Ahem, just because you can't imagine it doesn't mean it's unimaginable.  On topic. :)

And I agree with Freeman. Tick tock, while kinda classic, is like taking an unnecessary step.  If it's ready, show it.  If it's not ready, go work on it!  Lol.
Title: Re: Semi-poll: What would you change if you'd be in PS in any position?
Post by: frvge on January 17, 2009, 12:23:49 PM
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- For the dev team to stop being so secretive about the project (in terms of what they're doing and whats being planned etc).
Well, we usually don't have many things to show. I could release an idling animation, but that is just stupid. It will work out better when we have more animations and then release something that looks more like the real thing.

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- Get rid of the tick tock crap and just say the news / updates as they come. Even if its just a small thing every week or two, it will reassure people the project is still moving forward.
Tick Tocks stay for the reasons of: builds excitement, more exposure, gives us a few days to tweak stuff, re-render if necessary, slap logos on stuff, re-record voice-overs, upload to mirrors and so on.
As long as I make the Tick Tock's deadline within reasonable time, it stays.
Title: Re: Semi-poll: What would you change if you'd be in PS in any position?
Post by: Tidenburg on January 17, 2009, 04:16:14 PM
Also, if I wanted people to vote for me on MOTY, I would consider getting people to look at your game by releasing somthing new. I'm not saying this just to get somthing. But there's no denying it draws in a crowd (also, I think people who are "watching" the mods get an alert on moddb).
Title: Re: Semi-poll: What would you change if you'd be in PS in any position?
Post by: frvge on January 17, 2009, 04:20:28 PM
That is correct. There's a reason why I haven't done that tho. You'll see after the results of Top-100 have been released. ;)
Title: Re: Semi-poll: What would you change if you'd be in PS in any position?
Post by: I <3 U on January 17, 2009, 06:18:21 PM
Quote from: frvge on January 17, 2009, 12:23:49 PM
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- For the dev team to stop being so secretive about the project (in terms of what they're doing and whats being planned etc).
Well, we usually don't have many things to show. I could release an idling animation, but that is just stupid. It will work out better when we have more animations and then release something that looks more like the real thing.

I'm not talking about releasing anything in this point. I was asking why you (Dev team) were so secretive as to what you're doing, not for you to show us what you're doing. Example: "Well the dev team has something totally awesome planned that could totally change PS...but we're not going to tell you". I understand a lot of these ideas that you guys have are JUST ideas, and wont actually make it into the game or whatever, but its still nice for us all to be on the same page.

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- Get rid of the tick tock crap and just say the news / updates as they come. Even if its just a small thing every week or two, it will reassure people the project is still moving forward.
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Tick Tocks stay for the reasons of: builds excitement, more exposure, gives us a few days to tweak stuff, re-render if necessary, slap logos on stuff, re-record voice-overs, upload to mirrors and so on.
As long as I make the Tick Tock's deadline within reasonable time, it stays.

Could the above not all be done before you post a topic in the presentation forum saying 'new stuff or tick tock'?
Title: Re: Semi-poll: What would you change if you'd be in PS in any position?
Post by: AgentX_003 on January 17, 2009, 06:28:17 PM
Quote from: frvge on January 17, 2009, 12:23:49 PM
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Tick Tocks stay for the reasons of: builds excitement, more exposure, gives us a few days to tweak stuff, re-render if necessary, slap logos on stuff, re-record voice-overs, upload to mirrors and so on.
As long as I make the Tick Tock's deadline within reasonable time, it stays.

I have to agree with frvge 100% , odd thing is I was about to post something last night with the exact same input, seriously, Knowing everything is boring , the element of surprise is just mind boggling amazing
Title: Re: Semi-poll: What would you change if you'd be in PS in any position?
Post by: frvge on January 17, 2009, 06:39:01 PM
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I'm not talking about releasing anything in this point. I was asking why you (Dev team) were so secretive as to what you're doing, not for you to show us what you're doing. Example: "Well the dev team has something totally awesome planned that could totally change PS...but we're not going to tell you". I understand a lot of these ideas that you guys have are JUST ideas, and wont actually make it into the game or whatever, but its still nice for us all to be on the same page.
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Title: Re: Semi-poll: What would you change if you'd be in PS in any position?
Post by: Tidenburg on January 17, 2009, 11:15:04 PM
I think he means the devs say stuff such as "but we have a solution in mind for that" as though we know what it is when really it comes across to the uninformed like you're taunting us about the fact you know something we don't.

Personally, I don't agree. But i'm just clarifying.