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Poll
Question: Are you going to buy Shadow Complex?
Option 1: Yes votes: 4
Option 2: No votes: 3
Option 3: I would if I had xbox votes: 0
Option 4: Trials HD is better votes: 0
Option 5: I'll wait for PC (crosses fingers) votes: 2
Title: Shadow Complex
Post by: Farley4Fan on August 19, 2009, 11:56:57 PM
Okay, so I just bought it and the game is legit.  Do ya like Metroid?  This game will knock your socks off, or if you don't wear socks (agent ;)), then it will melt your face off.  If you have an xbox and you enjoy action/adventure then you should definitely download this.   

Title: Re: Shadow Complex
Post by: Succubus Dryad Of The Undying Comet on August 20, 2009, 12:13:14 AM
Metroids were awesome for the feeling of loneliness (is that a word?)  and the freedom that they gave to the player. This is just a side-scrolling shooter, with some "puzzle" features.
I even doubt you can sequence break in it.

Meh. I'm going to find my Famicom. Gotta clear Metroid again.
Title: Re: Shadow Complex
Post by: Zedblade on August 20, 2009, 01:58:40 AM
yes, I'm buying it as soon as I get home. Most likely.
Title: Re: Shadow Complex
Post by: Farley4Fan on August 20, 2009, 07:48:49 AM
Quote from: Random Person on August 20, 2009, 12:13:14 AM
Metroids were awesome for the feeling of loneliness (is that a word?)  and the freedom that they gave to the player. This is just a side-scrolling shooter, with some "puzzle" features.
I even doubt you can sequence break in it.

Meh. I'm going to find my Famicom. Gotta clear Metroid again.


You don't know much about the game then.  It's all about sequence breaking, to an extent.  I always come across plenty of obstacles I couldn't get past until later in the game.  Then, when I get the necessary gadget, I can go back and get the goodies I missed out on.  For example, I'm about halfway through the game and I just got the foam gun (like Metroid's gun) and I can go back ALL the way to the beginning of the map to find some kind of hidden treasure using the foam gun.  But I don't have to. 

And it offers you freedom.  You can go anywhere so long as you have the necessary gear.  You do have to get that gear in a sequence, technically, but this games grants loads of freedom from what I've played so far.  I'm pretty sure you can beat the game with a lot of the big-name gear items too since there are challenges for beating the game unlocking only the flashlight, rockets, backpack, and grenades.  I haven't even revealed 60% of the whole map yet - and it's HUGE!
Title: Re: Shadow Complex
Post by: Succubus Dryad Of The Undying Comet on August 20, 2009, 10:56:54 AM
Well, I just finished Metroid on 23%.
Unless SC comes out on PC, it's a no for me.

Untill then, I'm going to speedrun through the Metroid Prime series.
//Damn it Papa, you got me hooked right there ;)
Title: Re: Shadow Complex
Post by: Spark Mandriller on August 20, 2009, 08:52:35 PM
I 15%'d Zero Mission once.


Ridley was pretty hard.
Title: Re: Shadow Complex
Post by: Zedblade on August 20, 2009, 10:36:43 PM
I completed 100% of every Metroid game ever released.

Oh yeah, I'm hardcore.
Title: Re: Shadow Complex
Post by: Succubus Dryad Of The Undying Comet on August 21, 2009, 12:08:46 AM
Quote from: Zedblade on August 20, 2009, 10:36:43 PM
I completed 100% of every Metroid game ever released.
Me too. You're not.
Title: Re: Shadow Complex
Post by: Farley4Fan on August 21, 2009, 07:57:11 AM
Oh, and I just found out you can sequence break in the game.  I wonder if it'll ever come to PC.  It is produced by Epic and they've been all anal about making PC ports.  Hopefully ChAIR can persuade them.  There would be some great mods with this game.

Who's buying/bought Trials HD?  I personally played the other Trials games on computer way back and I was thrilled when I heard it was coming to xbox.  It's sweet.  2 amazing 2D games in 2 weeks, it's 2 much.  Love the comeback they are making.
Title: Re: Shadow Complex
Post by: Spark Mandriller on August 21, 2009, 08:13:11 AM
Wait what you just found that out? Weren't you saying that's what the game is all about earlier?
Title: Re: Shadow Complex
Post by: Succubus Dryad Of The Undying Comet on August 21, 2009, 09:37:04 AM
Quote from: Papa Skull on August 21, 2009, 07:57:11 AM
Oh, and I just found out you can sequence break in the game.
How low can you go?
Title: Re: Shadow Complex
Post by: Farley4Fan on August 21, 2009, 10:22:38 PM
I said sequence breaking to an extent.  I thought you could only skip portions of the game, but now I just found out you can skip at least half of it with a few tricks that are incredibly hard to find out.

And I've only beaten the game once, just to beat it.  I'll go through and get my 100% run, then maybe my less than 13% run, then maybe I'll try some speed runs if I want.  The game has incredible replay value.
Title: Re: Shadow Complex
Post by: Succubus Dryad Of The Undying Comet on August 22, 2009, 11:01:31 PM
Quote from: Papa Skull on August 21, 2009, 10:22:38 PM
you can skip at least half of it
Quote from: Papa Skull on August 21, 2009, 10:22:38 PM
my less than 13% run
So you're saying, the game allows you to skip over half of it, and you will exploit that to an almost 90% skip?
That sounds hard.
Title: Re: Shadow Complex
Post by: Farley4Fan on August 23, 2009, 12:18:09 AM
No I meant a less than 13% of the items collected run.  There's an actual sequence break that lets you skip most of the story parts. 

The game is suprisingly very open. 
Title: Re: Shadow Complex
Post by: Spekkio on August 23, 2009, 07:00:45 AM
QuoteMetroids were awesome for the feeling of loneliness (is that a word?)  and the freedom that they gave to the player.
Really? I disagree (I love the Metroid series on the whole, btw):

Metroid 1 was fairly non-linear. Metroid 2 was extremely linear, as you couldn't progress to the next area until you eradicated all the metroids in your current area.

Super Metroid is faily linear as well, although less so if you can master the wall jump, and only becomes extremely non-linear if you can master the dash-->ball glitch, which is extremely difficult to do.

Metroid Prime only offered freedom if you were able to master the strafe jump glitch; however, this glitch was actually removed in the GoTY version (I spent hours of frustration attempting to do it before I discovered this fact).

Metroid Prime 3: Corruption offers no freedom at all. The game progresses similar to Metroid 2 in that you can only go from A---> B ---> C.

All in all, the Metroid games only offer freedom to players who discover and perfect how to glitch. I wouldn't really call that offering players freedom by default. Freedom is what the last 2/3 of FF3, the 2nd half of Chrono Trigger and what the Mega Man series offers: you can complete your tasks in any order.

QuoteSo you're saying, the game allows you to skip over half of it, and you will exploit that to an almost 90% skip?
That sounds hard.
No, the % complete tracks how many items you collect. 13% meant that he beat the game with minimal equipment/missile packs/power bombs/energy tanks/etc.

QuoteAnd it offers you freedom.  You can go anywhere so long as you have the necessary gear.  You do have to get that gear in a sequence, technically,
That's not freedom; that's the game pre-defining your path through the game, even though it doesn't seem so because you have to backtrack after you obtain certain items.
Title: Re: Shadow Complex
Post by: Spark Mandriller on August 23, 2009, 07:27:43 AM
You do have the freedom to wander around for ages finding doors you can't get through yet until you finally find the one way you were meant to go, I guess.

Except uh I guess Prime 3 didn't really let you do that. Or Fusion, for that matter. But Fusion was still fun, and Prime 3 was still um it had good controls!
Title: Re: Shadow Complex
Post by: Zedblade on August 23, 2009, 09:13:30 AM
Quote from: Spekkio on August 23, 2009, 07:00:45 AM
QuoteMetroids were awesome for the feeling of loneliness (is that a word?)  and the freedom that they gave to the player.
Really? I disagree (I love the Metroid series on the whole, btw):

Metroid 1 was fairly non-linear. Metroid 2 was extremely linear, as you couldn't progress to the next area until you eradicated all the metroids in your current area.

Super Metroid is faily linear as well, although less so if you can master the wall jump, and only becomes extremely non-linear if you can master the dash-->ball glitch, which is extremely difficult to do.

Metroid Prime only offered freedom if you were able to master the strafe jump glitch; however, this glitch was actually removed in the GoTY version (I spent hours of frustration attempting to do it before I discovered this fact).

Metroid Prime 3: Corruption offers no freedom at all. The game progresses similar to Metroid 2 in that you can only go from A---> B ---> C.

All in all, the Metroid games only offer freedom to players who discover and perfect how to glitch. I wouldn't really call that offering players freedom by default. Freedom is what the last 2/3 of FF3, the 2nd half of Chrono Trigger and what the Mega Man series offers: you can complete your tasks in any order.

QuoteSo you're saying, the game allows you to skip over half of it, and you will exploit that to an almost 90% skip?
That sounds hard.
No, the % complete tracks how many items you collect. 13% meant that he beat the game with minimal equipment/missile packs/power bombs/energy tanks/etc.

QuoteAnd it offers you freedom.  You can go anywhere so long as you have the necessary gear.  You do have to get that gear in a sequence, technically,
That's not freedom; that's the game pre-defining your path through the game, even though it doesn't seem so because you have to backtrack after you obtain certain items.

lol. I love the metroid series but not nearly as much as you do apparently, being able to talk about it at such depth. Now that's fucking hardcore.
Title: Re: Shadow Complex
Post by: Spekkio on August 23, 2009, 07:02:53 PM
QuoteI love the metroid series but not nearly as much as you do apparently
Damn fuckin straight!
Title: Re: Shadow Complex
Post by: LoChang on August 23, 2009, 09:43:23 PM
Haha.  Spekkio rules.
Title: Re: Shadow Complex
Post by: Farley4Fan on August 23, 2009, 11:14:40 PM
Bad frikkin ass.
Title: Re: Shadow Complex
Post by: Spekkio on August 24, 2009, 06:51:25 AM
Samus is my sexual slave  :o.
Title: Re: Shadow Complex
Post by: Farley4Fan on August 24, 2009, 07:23:10 AM
we're not worthy
Title: Re: Shadow Complex
Post by: Spark Mandriller on August 24, 2009, 07:44:58 AM
Quote from: Spekkio on August 24, 2009, 06:51:25 AM
Samus is my sexual slave  :o.

Just don't let it progress beyond that, okay? You'll end up like this guy.
(https://community.projectstealthgame.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg183.imageshack.us%2Fimg183%2F5083%2F03f46ee0d2b09d40b730cd6.jpg&hash=663108a30f445aa1ced607d7c18858319cef397b)
Title: Re: Shadow Complex
Post by: Farley4Fan on August 24, 2009, 09:53:43 AM
It is already way beyond that.  He is a way cooler than that guy, and he's pretty damn amazing.
Title: Re: Shadow Complex
Post by: VaNilla on August 24, 2009, 01:10:25 PM
I smell a suckup ::)
Title: Re: Shadow Complex
Post by: Spekkio on August 24, 2009, 05:07:44 PM
Quote from: Ambiguous Rocket on August 24, 2009, 07:44:58 AM
Quote from: Spekkio on August 24, 2009, 06:51:25 AM
Samus is my sexual slave  :o.

Just don't let it progress beyond that, okay? You'll end up like this guy.
omfg I'll turn asian?!? Will my peepee get smaller?
Title: Re: Shadow Complex
Post by: Farley4Fan on August 24, 2009, 08:16:49 PM
You read the job description, don't ask us.
Title: Re: Shadow Complex
Post by: AgentX_003 on September 04, 2009, 05:29:58 PM
Quote from: Papa Skull on August 24, 2009, 08:16:49 PM
You read the job description, don't ask us.


How in gods name do you have 3000 posts here :/...... i mean im on here alot sometimes and not even I have that many, Go buy chaostheory off steam so I can kick ur ass >:/
Title: Re: Shadow Complex
Post by: Farley4Fan on September 04, 2009, 07:53:59 PM
QuoteHow in gods name do you have 3000 posts here

I'd say about 2000 of that was in the first 6 months I was a member.  I had like 9 posts a day.  But now I average I think about 3.  So that means I really haven't been posting lately, like everyone.
Title: Re: Shadow Complex
Post by: Succubus Dryad Of The Undying Comet on September 04, 2009, 09:26:27 PM
Post-whoring.
Whores.
Title: Re: Shadow Complex
Post by: Zedblade on September 05, 2009, 08:33:58 AM
Anyway, i've already beaten Shadow Complex, now gointhough trying for 100%. So far i'm at 95% map filled and 80% ish items.

GAh so close!
Title: Re: Shadow Complex
Post by: Farley4Fan on September 07, 2009, 10:20:04 AM
I did a 100% run, then an Insane run to get to level 50 so I could more easily complete a 13% run, but I haven't started my 13 yet.  I wonder when I'll get around to it.  Just an awesome game.