footsteps > hbs

[frvge]

hmz, cant remember. I think I always used run.

What about a special run mode after which you need 2 sec to be able to fire your weapon? Bit like CoD and stuff.

[kronf]

The only thing heartbeat sensor needs is your teammate can see the merc you've detected on his radar too.

Why is that? I strongly disagree.

it makes sense as bullets let the merc appear on both radars and if a team sticks together one could use his hbs slot easier for other gadgets. it sucks that you have to tell your mate that the merc is in the next room when it could be solved that easy.
tell me one good reason why it shouldn't appear on both radars.

You are doing it backwards, YOU tell me one good reason why it should be like that. It makes as much sense to me as making one spy activating camo for both spies.

[Westfall]

good thing someone brought up the heart beat sensor topic, i really think hearbeat is overrated, due to the factors that if a merc catches you by suprise from behind, your done like dinner and that spybullets are the better alternative.. if they aren't soo loud.

I've already told you that HB sensor was stealthier in a way. Sure, bullets do a fine job. But alone in a different sector from mate...I'll take fuckin HB sensor to see what is near me with a good chance of not being heard by a merc. Spy Bullet tells the merc what room you are in (it is loud enough; exception of being across a map). Spekkio laid out a nice outline of why HB sensor is fine and necessary. I'm adding to it saying it is one of the stealthiest pieces of equipment in the game.

I'll tell you, get a team with bullets and HB sensor....golden.

[goodkebab]

some of the best players i know use HBS religiously

[Spekkio]

PT - mercs had as many speeds as the spies.

Nope, they only had two.

[Gawain]

two speeds for the merc sound good to me with one normal speed making a louder noise than in ct and one stealth mode making less noise.
i don't think that showing mercs detected by hbs on both radars is that important and would make a big difference, i just think it would help random partners occasionally.
i don't think that hbs or bullets are op or up in any way, it's just that you don't have to rely on your senses/3d person view/instincts that much and the mercs cant go hunt the spies that well. the noise of the merc going in sniper mode is one important factor, too.

[Spekkio]

To be fair, I never used slow speed in PT, so it was kinda useless. It's just that if you're going to make the merc some loud clanking tank, I want to be able to sneak up on spies somehow.

[B1nArY_001]

There's nothing like catching a spy completely by surprise  :D

[InvisibleMan999]

You are doing it backwards, YOU tell me one good reason why it should be like that. It makes as much sense to me as making one spy activating camo for both spies.

Having HBS work for both sides facilitates more recon and teamwork, and more tactics. There, that's a good reason.

[Gawain]

There's nothing like catching a spy completely by surprise  :D

well these moments are quite rare at high levels of play.
we should find ways to make patroulling more effective especially on mid skill in order to make playing the merc side more fun. one way to do so would be reducing the safe zones eg vents and maybe reducing the delay after ss in which the merc can't shoot but move. removing the ability of chaff to work through walls is one good change for this, too.

[Spekkio]

well these moments are quite rare at high levels of play.

Which is why there's nothing like it :).

[Gawain]

u win ^^

[Daybreak]

So how bout my idea of a stealthy way to hack coms? It might prove useful, maybe even add the ability to easily locate proxy mines too as an added bonous. Again, it's a suit activation gadget not a weapon.

[Gawain]

it's not that interesting to hack the mercs' comms, it's interesting to hack the spies' comms.

[Succubus Dryad Of The Undying Comet]

it's not that interesting to hack the mercs' comms, it's interesting to hack the spies' comms.

It's interesting to hack BOTH comms.