Phosphorous Nades Properties !!111!1

Started by Gawain, March 15, 2008, 01:09:42 PM

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Succubus Dryad Of The Undying Comet

How about a gadget (deployable) that would inform the merc when doors/ stuff get used?

Farley4Fan

Wow, that's pretty off topic but a nice idea.  Want to elaborate a little more how this would work?  Spies don't use doors that much so I don't see how this would be of good use for mercs.

Gawain

Quote from: Cyntrox on April 03, 2008, 10:42:16 PM
It would work if a spy is fleeing from you. If he runs to where you have put a PH mine, he'll go slower AND leave footprints. Making it a lot easier to find him.
the whole point of ph nades is that they don't work like traps or mines but can be placed "on the fly".

Succubus Dryad Of The Undying Comet

Quote from: Papa Skull on April 03, 2008, 11:47:11 PM
Wow, that's pretty off topic but a nice idea.  Want to elaborate a little more how this would work?  Spies don't use doors that much so I don't see how this would be of good use for mercs.
It'd be a thing like a presence detector, which could only be put next to useable things, and inform the merc's when something is used, and lock down the room. Just that. Imo a nice aggro prevention system (ofc it could be removed by the spy)..

Farley4Fan

Useable things?  There aren't many useable things for the spy.  At least, not any useable things that spies really want to use that much.  Depends on what the thing is and what the map is like I guess.  Interesting idea though...  The problem is that it is basically a super presence detector.  Eh, not much of a problem nvm.  But a real problem is how visible it will be for the spy.  It would be easy for a spy to see a PD right by a blue hacking terminal so therefore wouldn't even go to try it.

Gawain

stupid idea. (no flaming intended, just my opinion)

VaNilla

Liqu1D's idea fucking owns :D. But I do think maybe you should be limited to have 2 placed at a time, and if you want to move it somewhere else, like with mines, remove it and then place it on another one, that would be fucking nice :P.

Succubus Dryad Of The Undying Comet

Well, it wouldn't detect a spy simply being there, just interacting with stuff.
Would be cool on maps with lots of hacks (deftech like).

Gawain

how about just placing a presence detector close to the door? (does the same job even better)
plz don't hijack this thread with totally different ideas, i think ph nades are important enough to have their own dedicated thread.

VaNilla

PH Nades suck and shouldn't have anything dedicated to them atall in my opinion. But oh well, I wouldn't call helping the game we want to own hijacking anything.

Gawain

i guess you think ph nades suck as a replacement for frags, and you're probably right about that. in some older thread there was the suggestion to have ph dust stop you from hacking laptops by doing some minor damage every 0.9s, but paired withi the slow-down effect this could prove op.

Succubus Dryad Of The Undying Comet

Quote from: Rambo on April 04, 2008, 02:11:44 PM
how about just placing a presence detector close to the door? (does the same job even better)
No. good timing = PD fails.

Westfall

Quote from: Liqu1D_133 on April 04, 2008, 02:02:30 PM
Well, it wouldn't detect a spy simply being there, just interacting with stuff.
Would be cool on maps with lots of hacks (deftech like).

deftech has 3 hacks, in which you need to get 2/3. Do you mean more like Steel Squat?

Gawain

if someone hacks something on steel the merc get's the exact information what has been hacked. and even if he wouldn't get that he could see it 1s later.

Farley4Fan

Hell no to adding damage to dust clouds.  Nothing worse than making a gadget which can block off objectives for 12+ seconds. 

This new PD sounds weird.  It has too many uses and not just 1 or 2 clear uses like all other gadgets.