Tazer or Flamethrower? Vote Please.

[Snakebit.]

This topic should get an award for being the most stupidest topic in Ps forum.

FLAMETHROWER doesn't taz people come on , it burns them and fire kills .

Its the same as i would ask ' I got a wonderful idea , lets give mercs rocket launchers and make them shoot bullets !!!!YEAH THAT WOULD BE SUPER AWESOME AHAHAHAA!!!! '

But obviously flamethrower is more awesome than a rocket launcher so it should be added to the game.....................................N-O-T!.

Reasons why it shouldn't be added .

1) It is the pinnacle of stupidity.
2) It doesn't suit the play style of this game . Tazer should be used to taz people and knock them out but fire knocking someone out is VERY stupid. Tazer knocking out people is like 9/10 on realistic scale but flame knocking out someone is like 1/10 on that scale.
3) Most people don't like the idea . So why should it be Minority > Majority ?
4) It is not realistic . The game has some unrealistic things BUT it tries to still stick to being at the least A BIT realistic . Come on if we discard realism , lets give spies light sabers and laser guns , but okay they won't kill . Lets turn spies into Terminators and make them drop screws and bolts when they get shot.
5) Arguing for the sake of arguing is fun but it has a limit . What the fuck ? 7 pages of nonsense is overboard.

[Farley4Fan]

Yup.  First impression of Flamethrower = OMGflaminzweapon FROM HELL!!!!1

At least try to read my explanation of how it would friggin work first. 

I'm done.  My analysis of the thread.  About half the people against it actually had good reason or just preferred to have a tazer instead - I can definitely respect that, sure.  The other half either didn't get it, or have NO imagination at all.  So little of an imagination that they should be picketing the game CT itself for defying realism in every manner. 

[Blank Man]

I disagree with the "lets keep this game as real as possible", but I still don't really like this idea.
weeeeeeeeeeee

[Spark Mandriller]

I JUST gave a valid response to Beetle.

No you didn't. You gave a bunch of arguments ranging from nonsensical (Fire could knock people out!) to irrelevant (Flamethrowers work like this in a completely different game!). If your arguments are generic enough that I can apply every single one to the case for adding a fucking WH40K weapon, then you need some more fucking arguments. Ones which make sense, please.


Also uh new guy? I mean I know it doesn't matter but I took a look and I registered here before you, so...

[Farley4Fan]

You've never heard of people passing out from pain?  Or from shock?  Or from lack of oxygen?  People pass out in burning buildings sometimes.  Is this not a REAL enough explanation for you?  Damn pathetic to be honest.  My point about flamethrowers in other games was that a flamethrower doesn't have to burn the house down to be REAL ENOUGH.  NO ONE BITCHES ABOUT REALISM, EXCEPT YOU.  Be proud, oh so proud.  Friggin stickler - love that word.

Drop it.  You look foolish.  I'm dropping it now as well because I look foolish trying to defend the idea that no one likes/gets/understands/will accept because it's not real enough, etc.... 

Why do you even play games dude?

[LennardF1989]

I think this topic needs a lock, I already lost the whole point about this topic like 6 pages back, sorry.

[Spark Mandriller]

I'm dropping it now as well because I look foolish trying to defend the idea that no one likes/gets/understands/will accept because it's not real enough, etc.... 

Try harder next time, maybe you'll come up with something good. Or, well, something not terrible.

[AgentX_003]

You've never heard of people passing out from pain?  Or from shock?  Or from lack of oxygen?  People pass out in burning buildings sometimes.  Is this not a REAL enough explanation for you?  Damn pathetic to be honest.  My point about flamethrowers in other games was that a flamethrower doesn't have to burn the house down to be REAL ENOUGH.  NO ONE BITCHES ABOUT REALISM, EXCEPT YOU.  Be proud, oh so proud.  Friggin stickler - love that word.

Drop it.  You look foolish.  I'm dropping it now as well because I look foolish trying to defend the idea that no one likes/gets/understands/will accept because it's not real enough, etc.... 

Why do you even play games dude?

save it for the tourny , don't prey on drunks .

[VaNilla]

No, for obvious reasons. There's nothing discrete about someone getting burned and flailing, so it attracts too much attention from the spies mate, and secondly it's unrealistic even for a game. If you had a flame-thrower why not burn him to death.

How/why are mercs supposed to be discreet?

And you can burn the spy to death!  Just like you can taze a spy to death.  It takes more than one shot though.  The real issue here is performance.  If the dev team could find a way to work around that then what would be the issue?  I think it would be cool.  Mercs burn, spies shock.  Fits the style.

Fire with one shot could easily kill a person, Tazer with one shot could not. A person on fire could turn it against another, a tazed person could not. Mercs are meant to be discreet if they have any sense, if I was merc and went around running shouting at the top of my voice spouting flames and jumping up and down, it's very easy for the spies to take me on. If I'm discreet and hide around places, and keep quiet, I have more chance of catching the spies and they have to be more alert. Mercs burning people really does not fit, it's not that we don't understand you, it's that you don't understand us.

Yes, no matter how creative you are in terms of how you use it, a flame is a flame.

Point being no matter how you try and take advantage of it, nobody really wants a flame as a weapon in this game. Flames burn and we don't need things to burn in this game.

The rest of the stuff I posted isn't really relevant to actual points about the flamethrower, more about your arguments, but this says enough as far as I am concerned. Now to the contrary of what you said here:

Let's review that shall we.  I JUST gave a valid response to Beetle.  What did I get?  A fucking one liner.  Why do I think I get nothing in return?  Because I don't.  Please.  Show me your points, stone.  I'm sure you and I would be able to have a better conversation than this new guy, hyper stag beetle. 

If you don't want to, I understand.  This thread needs to stop especially if everyone refuses to have a conversation.

I think I don't understand why you guys say it doesn't fit the playstyle.  Obviously.  It would be much appreciated if you would tell me HOW it doesn't.  Again, you can't just argue with opinions back in forth.  It's a circle.

I actually did say my reasons for thinking the flamethrower sucks, and if I quoted most of the posts in this topic I would be able to give you more too.

[MrSneaky08]

Is this a joke? This isnt Unreal Tournament 3, its Splinter Cell AKA Project Stealth lol.

[LennardF1989]

Is this a joke? This isnt Unreal Tournament 3, its Splinter Cell AKA Project Stealth lol.

I would like to emphasize we are NOT Splinter Cell nor are we cloning PT/CT/DA... We are Project Stealth and we have no relation to Ubisoft whatsoever. Only thing in common is that we both happen to make a Stealth Multiplayer game.

[Spekkio]

With such outstanding ideas by the peanut gallery, PS will be GOTY for sure!  ::)

[MrSneaky08]

Actually while we are throwing crazy ideas out there how about we give me merc a heat seeking rocket launcher, this way the spies wouldnt even be able to get in the door without dying.

[Spekkio]

Nonono, we give them a rocket launcher, but it only LOOKS like a rocket launcher. It will behave just like the uzi in-game.

[MrSneaky08]

Or we could give all of the mercs wife beaters, but in reality they would just be wearing gay ass Hollister clothes.