EMF/CHAFF flaw/solution

Roberto1223 · January 15, 2009, 05:39:23 AM

ok i hope u guys understand what im trying to say.

first of, this idea was inspired on the effects of smoke granade when merc has no visions on (the smoke hides the spy)

ok the flaw is the folowing: EMF detects electro magnetic fields, and the chaff has those magnetic things that float in the air for a few seconds, yet the Chaff particles dont hide the spy from a the mercs EMF vision.

ok so the idea is that if a spy is at a distance sorrounded by the particles of his own chaff, these particles will prevent an EMF sniper merc from easily finding the spy because the EMF would simply detect like a white cloud.

what im trying to say is that Chaffs should have a bad effects to mercs at long distances (like smokes), and not only when they come in contact with the mercs.

Daybreak · January 15, 2009, 05:58:35 AM

So you're saying Chaff should be a smoke grenade for EMF?!!

That's the most original thought of heard in a long time. That's new feature that would be pretty cool and useful for passive spies.

a3c0i3d · January 15, 2009, 12:09:19 PM

nice, logical, i like it.

Should not be that hard to put it in i guesse.

frvge · January 15, 2009, 12:40:05 PM

Interesting idea. Indeed the best since a long time.

Daybreak · January 15, 2009, 03:39:06 PM

Quote from: Daybreak on January 15, 2009, 05:58:35 AM
So you're saying Chaff should be a smoke grenade for EMF?!!

That's the most original thought of heard in a long time. That's new feature that would be pretty cool and useful for passive spies.

Wow. How many more words can I forget? I wasn't even drunk or anything. No wonder I fail.

Westfall · January 15, 2009, 10:36:52 PM

I don't see how it would create a cloud around the spy. The particles should be present, yes, but I don't think it should hide the spy. That's what a smoke nade does. If you want the merc not to use a vision, hit him with a chaff. Chaff's original intent is to bypass anything electrical, not cover the spy with a cloak. Maybe the outreach of the chaff should be greater to take out lighting. I don't think chaff needs anymore boosting.

Tidenburg · January 15, 2009, 11:32:02 PM

I like it.

Farley4Fan · January 16, 2009, 12:59:21 AM

Sure. Why not.

VaNilla · January 16, 2009, 01:27:38 AM

Very cool idea but in practice, could work and could not, it would need some testing.

My reason is this, imagine your in EMF and catch a spy on the ground, he runs off, throws a chaff grenade and you see him popping in and out of your vision, it may lead you to believe there are 2 spies and things like that, basically it might be more disorientating than is necessary.

Farley4Fan · January 16, 2009, 01:53:58 AM

Simply turn off EMF. I don't think this new little idea will have much of an effect on the gameplay, at all. Why? People don't whore EMF that much - most likely even less in Project Stealth because of the removal of ghosting. If a merc is looking at you with EMF, turn off your visions instead of wasting a chaff grenade. The only time I can see this little chaff/smoke idea thing happening is during a time when someone is tagged by a spy finder. Also, will a spy trapped spy light up on EMF like on CT? I mean for project stealth. What is the deal on that?

Blank Man · January 16, 2009, 01:56:13 AM

Quote from: Papa Skull on January 16, 2009, 01:53:58 AM
Simply turn off EMF. I don't think this new little idea will have much of an effect on the gameplay, at all. Why? People don't whore EMF that much - most likely even less in Project Stealth because of the removal of ghosting. If a merc is looking at you with EMF, turn off your visions instead of wasting a chaff grenade. The only time I can see this little chaff/smoke idea thing happening is during a time when someone is tagged by a spy finder. Also, will a spy trapped spy light up on EMF like on CT? I mean for project stealth. What is the deal on that?

I was thinking the same thing, I just couldn't find a way to explain it. Well put.

Farley4Fan · January 16, 2009, 03:59:27 AM

I still think it should be put in I just don't think it will be common.

Roberto1223 · January 16, 2009, 06:14:53 AM

Quote from: Westfall on January 15, 2009, 10:36:52 PM
I don't see how it would create a cloud around the spy. The particles should be present, yes, but I don't think it should hide the spy. That's what a smoke nade does. If you want the merc not to use a vision, hit him with a chaff. Chaff's original intent is to bypass anything electrical, not cover the spy with a cloak. Maybe the outreach of the chaff should be greater to take out lighting. I don't think chaff needs anymore boosting.

i dont think your getting the idea. it is not a power addition to the Chaff at all! it is only a flaw and a fix. its correcting what was wrong. not improving. so theres no reason really to burn the idea down to ashes.

secondly, yes it would create a cloud around a spy. why? well, answer how is it possible that those little particles diasable the laser grids without really ever coming in contact with the laser emitters? well because these magnetic particals obviously emit some kind of high tech electro stuff that disables the grids! so, this high tech emission (emitted by each magnetic particle) would create a cloud in EMF.

ok sorry i dont really know the scientifically correct terms for the chaffs particles or whatver so im just using the word "stuff" etc.

AgentX_003 · January 16, 2009, 10:08:07 AM

Quote from: Roberto1223 on January 16, 2009, 06:14:53 AM
Quote from: Westfall on January 15, 2009, 10:36:52 PM
I don't see how it would create a cloud around the spy. The particles should be present, yes, but I don't think it should hide the spy. That's what a smoke nade does. If you want the merc not to use a vision, hit him with a chaff. Chaff's original intent is to bypass anything electrical, not cover the spy with a cloak. Maybe the outreach of the chaff should be greater to take out lighting. I don't think chaff needs anymore boosting.

i dont think your getting the idea. it is not a power addition to the Chaff at all! it is only a flaw and a fix. its correcting what was wrong. not improving. so theres no reason really to burn the idea down to ashes.

secondly, yes it would create a cloud around a spy. why? well, answer how is it possible that those little particles diasable the laser grids without really ever coming in contact with the laser emitters? well because these magnetic particals obviously emit some kind of high tech electro stuff that disables the grids! so, this high tech emission (emitted by each magnetic particle) would create a cloud in EMF.

ok sorry i dont really know the scientifically correct terms for the chaffs particles or whatver so im just using the word "stuff" etc.

this is nice and theory and all but Emf ghosting is fixed so whats the point ?

Westfall · January 16, 2009, 05:39:58 PM

I know what you're saying roberto. It just seems kind of irrelevant. It's not a bad idea by any means. However, if it's a magnetic disruption, then waves should be implemented as oppossed to a cloud. I can live with a cloud though.